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PRrambo_

PlayStation.jif
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Oct 25, 2017
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Elfman theme is so forgettable. I am so glad that I was 12 when I saw Spiderman 2002, prevented me from having nostalgia glasses as it was not my first exposure to Spider-Man.

And it does not really seem inspired by Raimi at all, Spidey is out there having fun, making quips and not feeling like a loser 90 percent of the time. And Mary Jane looks like a useful, interesting character which is 180 degree turn from whatever the hell they tried to do with Kirsten Dunst.





yeah full thing in the game
That is awesome
 

Crackhead_Bob

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
1,865
To anyone who have been following the development of this game:
-- Does it look like Insomniac looked to Rocksteady's formula as inspiration?
-- If so, what looks like they've used so far? What will probably be used that hasn't been seen yet?
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
Moderator
Oct 28, 2017
13,510
Not related to this particular trailer, but I only just noticed that the Inner Demons are actually speaking Mandarin! That's really cool.
 

C++

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Aug 2, 2018
216
As a big Spidey fan i doubt this game will reach highs of Arkham Asylum or City. Those games were really well done. May be related to Batman and how he is as character compared to Spidey or may about his villains. Every part of those games were constructed about villains and their themes. Also their combat systems were revolutionary at the time.

Spidey villains while looking cool and i have fond opinion about them not reach Batman rogue gallery.They are too goofy to taken seriously imho outside of Mr.Negative.At Least those were in the game. I seriously cant believe jobbers like Rhino,Vulture and Scorpion are treated as main villains and bigger foes like Kingpin goes in jail in opening mission, Goblin is just there as Norman or no signs of Venom & Carnage.
More to disappoint to learn Black Cat is just side story and not integral as CatWoman to game. No signs of Mysterio either. (even if he is in i doubt they can match Scarecrow)

I'm sure it will be "good" game but not great or memorable probably. Graphics looks great but so did Arkham Knight. Also face models looks pretty bad.

And last point i hope they have meaningful side quests.Batman due again his character had lot of different side quests themed around. Puzzles about detective stuff,Arkham mythos and more. Spidey being overpowered really makes situation harder.

I feel like game is going to wreck a lot expectations in a bad way. Main core gameplay will look like a borefest after 3-4 hour.

Sincerely me .
 

Aprikurt

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Oct 29, 2017
18,775
As a big Spidey fan i doubt this game will reach highs of Arkham Asylum or City. Those games were really well done. May be related to Batman and how he is as character compared to Spidey or may about his villains. Every part of those games were constructed about villains and their themes. Also their combat systems were revolutionary at the time.

Spidey villains while looking cool and i have fond opinion about them not reach Batman rogue gallery.They are too goofy to taken seriously imho outside of Mr.Negative.At Least those were in the game. I seriously cant believe jobbers like Rhino,Vulture and Scorpion are treated as main villains and bigger foes like Kingpin goes in jail in opening mission, Goblin is just there as Norman or no signs of Venom & Carnage.
More to disappoint to learn Black Cat is just side story and not integral as CatWoman to game. No signs of Mysterio either. (even if he is in i doubt they can match Scarecrow)

I'm sure it will be "good" game but not great or memorable probably. Graphics looks great but so did Arkham Knight. Also face models looks pretty bad.

And last point i hope they have meaningful side quests.Batman due again his character had lot of different side quests themed around. Puzzles about detective stuff,Arkham mythos and more. Spidey being overpowered really makes situation harder.

I feel like game is going to wreck a lot expectations in a bad way. Main core gameplay will look like a borefest after 3-4 hour.

Sincerely me .
Complete and utter hysteria. You have no idea what villains are really in the game, you have very little idea what the side quests are going to be.
 

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Banned
Aug 2, 2018
216
Complete and utter hysteria. You have no idea what villains are really in the game, you have very little idea what the side quests are going to be.
And certainly so you have no idea of reading posts it seems.
"I hope they have meaningful side quests" != "you have very little idea about side quests STFU NOOB"

And about villains i am telling you about what they shows us. All marketing and trailers focused on Sinister 6 even they have statute with collector edition. Kingpin put on jail in literal opening mission and seems to be behind the bars entire game.

Blackcat is DLC i think and didnt they confirm Norman Osborn in the game not Goblin.
Multiple times said symbiotes arent in the game.
And yet to see Mysterio

so what am i missing you clearly seeing in bright?
 

Nakenorm

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
22,275
I seriously cant believe jobbers like Rhino,Vulture and Scorpion are treated as main villains

no signs of Venom & Carnage

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I'm happy Insomniac has focused on interesting villains instead of going for the edgy popular picks.

Agree about Mysterio though, he would have been great and is probably my favorite Spidey villain. But I'm sure he'll show up in the City That Never Sleeps or in the sequel.
 

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Aug 2, 2018
216
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I'm happy Insomniac has focused on interesting villains instead of going for the edgy popular picks.


Nothing interesting about Rhino,Scorpion,Vulture,Electro but thats your opinion.They are like in all SpiderMan games released.Interesting Spider-Man villains would be Kraven,Kingpin,Morphius,Punisher,Mysterio,Hammerhead etc for me
 

Marble

Banned
Nov 27, 2017
3,819
As a big Spidey fan i doubt this game will reach highs of Arkham Asylum or City. Those games were really well done. May be related to Batman and how he is as character compared to Spidey or may about his villains. Every part of those games were constructed about villains and their themes. Also their combat systems were revolutionary at the time.

Spidey villains while looking cool and i have fond opinion about them not reach Batman rogue gallery.They are too goofy to taken seriously imho outside of Mr.Negative.At Least those were in the game. I seriously cant believe jobbers like Rhino,Vulture and Scorpion are treated as main villains and bigger foes like Kingpin goes in jail in opening mission, Goblin is just there as Norman or no signs of Venom & Carnage.
More to disappoint to learn Black Cat is just side story and not integral as CatWoman to game. No signs of Mysterio either. (even if he is in i doubt they can match Scarecrow)

I'm sure it will be "good" game but not great or memorable probably. Graphics looks great but so did Arkham Knight. Also face models looks pretty bad.

And last point i hope they have meaningful side quests.Batman due again his character had lot of different side quests themed around. Puzzles about detective stuff,Arkham mythos and more. Spidey being overpowered really makes situation harder.

I feel like game is going to wreck a lot expectations in a bad way. Main core gameplay will look like a borefest after 3-4 hour.

Sincerely me .

Maybe wait and play the game first? Insomniac said there is much more they didn't reveal yet.
 

Nakenorm

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
22,275
They are like in all SpiderMan games released

And Venom isn't? lol, He's even been playable.I'm just saying I'd rather have Rhino running into walls for the hundreth time than another game with Venom in it.

Interesting Spider-Man villains would be Kraven,Kingpin,Morphius,Punisher,Mysterio,Hammerhead etc for me

Yup, some great choices there. Kinda indifferent on Punisher tho', especially since we already have Silver Sable (and power pack?).

Mr Negative, Silver Sable and
Tombstone
are great choices, but understandably they need to put in some more familiar characters as well.
 

PRrambo_

PlayStation.jif
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,855
Tonight's news:

Game will suck after 3 or 4 hours, will fall short of expectations, claims person who has not played it.

More at eleven.
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
13,510
Because it's awesome. I'm not usually a fan of vEnOm but Cates run has been fantastic so far.
I can't really judge as I haven't read the story yet, but I just don't like how it seems to backtrack on what they did in Guardians of the Galaxy with the symbiotes where they were established as more of a benevolent alien race. Then again, I suppose that doesn't exactly fit with the stories before... but I personally like that more. Maybe I'll check it out one day, but until then, I can't form a proper opinion. Cool to hear it's been good so far, though! I take it this is the "Venom" book?
Spidey villains while looking cool and i have fond opinion about them not reach Batman rogue gallery.They are too goofy to taken seriously imho outside of Mr.Negative.At Least those were in the game. I seriously cant believe jobbers like Rhino,Vulture and Scorpion are treated as main villains and bigger foes like Kingpin goes in jail in opening mission, Goblin is just there as Norman or no signs of Venom & Carnage.
More to disappoint to learn Black Cat is just side story and not integral as CatWoman to game. No signs of Mysterio either. (even if he is in i doubt they can match Scarecrow)
So... you think the game won't be that great simply because they're using villains you don't think are any good? Ever consider that maybe Insomniac will write a great story and write those characters well enough to make them interesting? We also still don't know if any of those are going to be the main villains. We've literally only seen Rhino, Vulture, and Scorpion in one trailer. They're part of the Sinister Six. That's all we know so far.

Being disappointed in Norman not being the Goblin and the lack of Venom and Carnage isn't exactly... a good look, for someone claiming to be a big Spider-Man fan. It sounds like you just like the popular villains. Norman is half of what makes the Green Goblin great. It's his cunning and genius that makes him so dangerous and Spider-Man's greatest foe. Venom and Carnage are great, but they're hardly necessary for a good Spider-Man story. If anything, the symbiotes' popularity has been somewhat detrimental to the quality of Spider-Man stories they're featured in cause they often retread old ground.

Plus, come on, really? Rhino isn't an interesting villain? You either have not read enough Spider-Man stories or... Yeah, I can't think of a reason why anyone who's read enough Spider-Man stories featuring Aleksei would think he's a bad villain.
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
13,510
Only reason I'd want Carnage in a Spider-Man story is so we can get Toxin, or Venom and Spider-Man teaming up together.
 

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Aug 2, 2018
216
Rhino is just a folder enemy that runs into walls and you jump over it. Thats literally how has been 20 years or more. Kinda hated Rocksteady how handled bane in same manner considering he isnt just a stick on his head running like a maniac. I think Ultimate Spider-Man handled Rhino best with chase mission but even that he is just foddler enemy. There are little people on Spidey World who are constantly planning evil plans and schemes. Look Batman you have Penguin,Joker,Two Face,Riddler,Strange,Scarecrow,Court of Owls,Ivy,Pigface,Hush and probably more all has different motivations and styles to kill batman or rule world etc.
Penguin is trying to take over gotham and be rich, Riddler trying to prove he is smartest , scarecrow mind manipulations etc.

Looking at "so far seen spidey villains in trailers" they are just HAHA IM GONNA KILL SPIDEY . No plans , no brains. I am sure game will have atleast 1 schemer behind but most we seen so far are just brutes. (Or how they depicted in trailers). You could argue Vulture is schemer maybe but on trailers he just attacking like a folder enemy.

And nah Shocker,Electro,Scorpion,Rhino are always and will be just mindless fools
 

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Aug 2, 2018
216
I refuse to believe any Spider-Man fan actually likes Carnage.
Then you probably didnt play amazing spider man ps1 game.
They handled Venom and Carnage so good in those games. Carnage always should be scariest persona in Spidey villains. Always trying to catch you and not an enemy you brute attack him. You kinda must manipulate and plans about disabling him. Because his brute force is stronger than Spider-Man also his behaviour unpredictable most of time.

 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
13,510
Rhino is just a folder enemy that runs into walls and you jump over it. Thats literally how has been 20 years or more. Kinda hated Rocksteady how handled bane in same manner considering he isnt just a stick on his head running like a maniac. I think Ultimate Spider-Man handled Rhino best with chase mission but even that he is just foddler enemy. There are little people on Spidey World who are constantly planning evil plans and schemes. Look Batman you have Penguin,Joker,Two Face,Riddler,Strange,Scarecrow,Court of Owls,Ivy,Pigface,Hush and probably more all has different motivations and styles to kill batman or rule world etc.
Penguin is trying to take over gotham and be rich, Riddler trying to prove he is smartest , scarecrow mind manipulations etc.

Looking at "so far seen spidey villains in trailers" they are just HAHA IM GONNA KILL SPIDEY . No plans , no brains. I am sure game will have atleast 1 schemer behind but most we seen so far are just brutes. (Or how they depicted in trailers). You could argue Vulture is schemer maybe but on trailers he just attacking like a folder enemy.

And nah Shocker,Electro,Scorpion,Rhino are always and will be just mindless fools
So much for being a "big Spidey fan" then.

And yeah, it's totally right to compare trailers to a finished product.
 

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Aug 2, 2018
216
So much for being a "big Spidey fan" then.

And yeah, it's totally right to compare trailers to a finished product.

Oh my , so we shouldnt judge trailers even? Thats what they are trying to sell to us.
Why would i assume or imagine mysterious things behind finished product. Also that trailer is from E3 2018 which is roughly finished game. If they have wonderful& amazing things and not showing it thats their problem. If you want to people to buy your game you should show it instead of being left for "imaginative situations".
 

LossAversion

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Oct 28, 2017
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The sequel is definitely going to have all of the best villains. Green Goblin, Venom, Mysterio, The Lizard, Morbius, Kraven, Sandman...

But you're crazy if you think that the villains we've seen so far aren't "interesting". It's the Sinister Six. I don't know how much of a Spider-Man fan you really are if that last E3 trailer didn't get your spider senses tingling.

Also,
Main core gameplay will look like a borefest after 3-4 hour.
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
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Oh my , so we shouldnt judge trailers even? Thats what they are trying to sell to us.
Why would i assume or imagine mysterious things behind finished product. Also that trailer is from E3 2018 which is roughly finished game. If they have wonderful& amazing things and not showing it thats their problem. If you want to people to buy your game you should show it instead of being left for "imaginative situations".
You're supposed to judge trailers for what they are: trailers. What you're doing is comparing it to Arkham Asylum and Arkham City, two finished products.

A piece of media like this also isn't supposed to show us everything. Should the Arkham City trailers have made it clear that Batman gets poisoned and the Joker dies? Or the Arkham Knight trailers that Joker lives on through Batman's fractured psyche? No.
 

Nakenorm

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
22,275
I can't really judge as I haven't read the story yet, but I just don't like how it seems to backtrack on what they did in Guardians of the Galaxy with the symbiotes where they were established as more of a benevolent alien race. Then again, I suppose that doesn't exactly fit with the stories before... but I personally like that more. Maybe I'll check it out one day, but until then, I can't form a proper opinion. Cool to hear it's been good so far, though! I take it this is the "Venom" book?

Yeah it's in the newest run on Venom.
They bring up the Klyntar storyline from guardians as well, in a pretty interesting way actually.
 

bombshell

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oh my , so we shouldnt judge trailers even? Thats what they are trying to sell to us.
Why would i assume or imagine mysterious things behind finished product. Also that trailer is from E3 2018 which is roughly finished game. If they have wonderful& amazing things and not showing it thats their problem. If you want to people to buy your game you should show it instead of being left for "imaginative situations".
Posted by jstevenson a week ago here, note the bolded especially.

I think the characterizations and the story in our game that anyone can appreciate. We focused not just on the Superhero/villain stuff, but also the human story. It's relatable. I still think A Crack in Time is some of our best story work in telling a relatable and heartfelt story, but this may eclipse that for me, personally.

All that said, the hardcore Spidey fans should find tons of stuff for them.

I really can't wait for people to experience it. Go dark if you can, we are trying to keep a lot secret and lots of little surprises in the story and game, which is tough to do and even tougher as the game gets more and more outside of your control.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Then you probably didnt play amazing spider man ps1 game.
They handled Venom and Carnage so good in those games. Carnage always should be scariest persona in Spidey villains. Always trying to catch you and not an enemy you brute attack him. You kinda must manipulate and plans about disabling him. Because his brute force is stronger than Spider-Man also his behaviour unpredictable most of time.


I did.
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
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Yeah it's in the newest run on Venom.
They bring up the Klyntar storyline from guardians as well, in a pretty interesting way actually.
Oh! Okay, that sounds very promising! Might check it out then. Still bummed about Flash no longer being Venom, though... and, well, you know.
 

Aprikurt

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And certainly so you have no idea of reading posts it seems.
"I hope they have meaningful side quests" != "you have very little idea about side quests STFU NOOB"

And about villains i am telling you about what they shows us. All marketing and trailers focused on Sinister 6 even they have statute with collector edition. Kingpin put on jail in literal opening mission and seems to be behind the bars entire game.

Blackcat is DLC i think and didnt they confirm Norman Osborn in the game not Goblin.
Multiple times said symbiotes arent in the game.
And yet to see Mysterio

so what am i missing you clearly seeing in bright?

My, what an unpleasant way to respond to people. Look, you're entitled to have whatever opinion you want about the game. It may not, indeed, be God's gift to gaming, it may disappoint, but you have to acknowledge you have very, very limited basis for that asides from "Guys! GUYS! WHAT IF?". My sneaking suspicion is you quite like being oppositional to the general feeling.

As others have pointed out, without having actually having the game in your hands, your fairly assured comments on the game becoming boring after 4 hours are utterly asinine. I'll wait for September 9th when you'll surely come back with critique worthy of a Spider-Man fan.
 

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Aug 2, 2018
216
Oh i dont want to be anti criticism to what general thinks or care. Just wanted put out on my genious concerns about this game that everyone hyped to death. People in my opinion likely flushed by amazing environmental graphics and swinging forgetting what makes game great after first hours of honeymoon. Thats just me probably . It could surprise me and not be shallow game after first impressions tbh
 

Bold One

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Oct 30, 2017
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Oh i dont want to be anti criticism to what general thinks or care. Just wanted put out on my genious concerns about this game that everyone hyped to death. People in my opinion likely flushed by amazing environmental graphics and swinging forgetting what makes game great after first hours of honeymoon. Thats just me probably . It could surprise me and not be shallow game after first impressions tbh
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Nakenorm

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
22,275
People in my opinion likely flushed by amazing environmental graphics and swinging forgetting what makes game great after first hours of honeymoon.

Press has played it on several occasions already, and every time coming away from it needing more. I don't think there's a need to worry.


As an example, Brandon Jones played the e3 demo numerous times, and recently played a preview build for 5h and is still hyped beyond belief.
 

Brix

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh i dont want to be anti criticism to what general thinks or care. Just wanted put out on my genious concerns about this game that everyone hyped to death. People in my opinion likely flushed by amazing environmental graphics and swinging forgetting what makes game great after first hours of honeymoon. Thats just me probably . It could surprise me and not be shallow game after first impressions tbh
I didn't know amazing graphics & world traversal are causing people to get overhyped lol. I mean where were you during the preview events? People have actually played it for numerous hours and the game was heavily praised.
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
13,510
Oh i dont want to be anti criticism to what general thinks or care. Just wanted put out on my genious concerns about this game that everyone hyped to death. People in my opinion likely flushed by amazing environmental graphics and swinging forgetting what makes game great after first hours of honeymoon. Thats just me probably . It could surprise me and not be shallow game after first impressions tbh
You went from comparing the unreleased game you haven't played yet with two that you have, and unjustly downplaying its potential, to... thinking people are shallow and get easily hyped just for graphics. Amazing.
 

Terminus

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Oct 30, 2017
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Oh i dont want to be anti criticism to what general thinks or care. Just wanted put out on my genious concerns about this game that everyone hyped to death. People in my opinion likely flushed by amazing environmental graphics and swinging forgetting what makes game great after first hours of honeymoon. Thats just me probably . It could surprise me and not be shallow game after first impressions tbh

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SuperMario

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Oct 28, 2017
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> Says he is a big Spidey fan (Spider-Man, who has the single greatest rogue gallery in comics).

> Proceeds to diss the best looking Spider-Man game ever arguing that "Batman villains are better".

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ckareset

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Feb 2, 2018
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As a big Spidey fan i doubt this game will reach highs of Arkham Asylum or City. Those games were really well done. May be related to Batman and how he is as character compared to Spidey or may about his villains. Every part of those games were constructed about villains and their themes. Also their combat systems were revolutionary at the time.

Spidey villains while looking cool and i have fond opinion about them not reach Batman rogue gallery.They are too goofy to taken seriously imho outside of Mr.Negative.At Least those were in the game. I seriously cant believe jobbers like Rhino,Vulture and Scorpion are treated as main villains and bigger foes like Kingpin goes in jail in opening mission, Goblin is just there as Norman or no signs of Venom & Carnage.
More to disappoint to learn Black Cat is just side story and not integral as CatWoman to game. No signs of Mysterio either. (even if he is in i doubt they can match Scarecrow)

I'm sure it will be "good" game but not great or memorable probably. Graphics looks great but so did Arkham Knight. Also face models looks pretty bad.

And last point i hope they have meaningful side quests.Batman due again his character had lot of different side quests themed around. Puzzles about detective stuff,Arkham mythos and more. Spidey being overpowered really makes situation harder.

I feel like game is going to wreck a lot expectations in a bad way. Main core gameplay will look like a borefest after 3-4 hour.

Sincerely me .

Without spoiling I can safely say that you are wrong about the villains. They obviously are keeping major players hidden from us. There is another player that I dont think is a spoiler cause they put his henchmen in the Bugle.

Tombstone
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,502
Oh i dont want to be anti criticism to what general thinks or care. Just wanted put out on my genious concerns about this game that everyone hyped to death. People in my opinion likely flushed by amazing environmental graphics and swinging forgetting what makes game great after first hours of honeymoon. Thats just me probably . It could surprise me and not be shallow game after first impressions tbh

Thanks for telling us the game is shallow after a few trailers and probably only seeing a small percentage of what the game offers, that's like walking into the ocean and putting a foot in near the shore and saying it's shallow. We're all so enamored by flashy graphics, environments, and swinging (which is arguably the most important aspect of a Spider-Man game) that we can't see that the game needs more than that to be great. Thanks for saving us all and letting us know that a game needs compelling stuff to do after the first few hours, you're a true visionary.
 

Ricky_R

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
3,997
Oh i dont want to be anti criticism to what general thinks or care. Just wanted put out on my genious concerns about this game that everyone hyped to death. People in my opinion likely flushed by amazing environmental graphics and swinging forgetting what makes game great after first hours of honeymoon. Thats just me probably . It could surprise me and not be shallow game after first impressions tbh

Thanks for the insight. This is my first video game ever.
 

Bunta

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
2,270
Hey guys, why haven't trailers of this game laid out the whole story? And please keep your answers high brow for my extreme geneyus.
 

skillzilla81

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Oct 25, 2017
10,043
As a big Spidey fan i doubt this game will reach highs of Arkham Asylum or City. Those games were really well done. May be related to Batman and how he is as character compared to Spidey or may about his villains. Every part of those games were constructed about villains and their themes. Also their combat systems were revolutionary at the time.

Spidey villains while looking cool and i have fond opinion about them not reach Batman rogue gallery.They are too goofy to taken seriously imho outside of Mr.Negative.At Least those were in the game. I seriously cant believe jobbers like Rhino,Vulture and Scorpion are treated as main villains and bigger foes like Kingpin goes in jail in opening mission, Goblin is just there as Norman or no signs of Venom & Carnage.
More to disappoint to learn Black Cat is just side story and not integral as CatWoman to game. No signs of Mysterio either. (even if he is in i doubt they can match Scarecrow)

I'm sure it will be "good" game but not great or memorable probably. Graphics looks great but so did Arkham Knight. Also face models looks pretty bad.

And last point i hope they have meaningful side quests.Batman due again his character had lot of different side quests themed around. Puzzles about detective stuff,Arkham mythos and more. Spidey being overpowered really makes situation harder.

I feel like game is going to wreck a lot expectations in a bad way. Main core gameplay will look like a borefest after 3-4 hour.

Sincerely me .

Yeah, man, a killer croc, a short business man named the penguin, a guy in green spandex who questions you to death are way more serious than Spidey's villains.