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Final Fantasy XV Director Hajime Tabata Pulls Back Curtain on New Company Luminous Productions
- Thread starter Koozek
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So pretty much you only posted FrontierGamer, as expected. Again, how many people here are saying that XV is a perfect, flawless masterpiece? I'm waiting.
The second thread is not even about the game being a flawless masterpiece, so yes, you are shitposting.
Im still waiting foir your response. You've done nothing but shit on other people's opinions in this thread.
I mean, we still have (at least one) S-E QA posting in defense of the game without a Verified tag who spends almost literally every day on Twitter promoting FFXV, so IMO if we're trying to gauge whether the "vocal minority" of Era either loves or hates the game, we should make sure we first address flagrant conflicts of interest.
We're never going to even begin to approach good-faith discussions on this topic when posters have actually worked on the game and whose social media is essentially a marketing arm for it.
We're never going to even begin to approach good-faith discussions on this topic when posters have actually worked on the game and whose social media is essentially a marketing arm for it.
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"The game sucks! It's insane to me that you people think it's good!!"
"Stop shitting on people's opinions!"
What a real hypocrite you are.
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Still waiting for that answer. Though, considering your responses so far. I'm probably not gonna get one. Do YOU even know why you like XV?
Also, that's not even what I said! Shit, I even said I ENJOYED the fucking game.
No different than the same posters shitting every thread related to Tabata and XV.
I mean it is a vocal minority that dislike the game on Era. That's just a fact. Whether there are also very vocal proponents of the game is neither here nor there.
Having said that, who are these people? Because if that's true it's disappointing to hear.
It would be really awesome to discuss this but as you can see people here would rather debate whether the game was successful or not. Because that's what really matters in a thread about Luminous Studios...
Please tell us more. Did you get to meet the lord and savior of the franchise, Tabata sama? If not, at least one his disciples?
I wonder if there has ever been a thread about anything FFXV/Tensai (genious) related that wasn't a complete train wreck.
Anyway, really excited for the upcoming IP, hope it's something Agni related.
Anyway, really excited for the upcoming IP, hope it's something Agni related.
I wonder if the price was due to them having an extensive DLC roadmap.
Nah it's definitely fair to say the game underperformed in Japan compared to previous entries. But to be honest that's just Japan at the moment. Dragon Quest is in exactly the same boat. It's why it was such a weird bit of evidence to bring up to try to prove that people dislike FFXV.
Man, I really can't wait to see what they have in store though. XV has brought so much freaking joy and hope to my life and I'll be eternally grateful to Tabata and crew for this game. Square got so many exciting things lined up so I'm looking forward to all the events coming up this year. Hopefully they'll shed some more lights on their upcoming projects
Yeah I'm excited too. I wasn't super happy with XV's story but there's a lot about the game which is great. Free of the shackles of FF and the train wreck that was Versus XIII I'm optimistic for what they can do.
Especially as Tabata isn't directing himself. Because the latter two DLCs were really good. So I have faith in the people under him, as well as his managerial expertise that managed to make XV a reality in only 3 years.
Yeah anything not named Monster Hunter or is a big Nintendo exclusive kinda underperforms, though, all things considering the game sold well, not to the same degree as previous entries but for a series whose name lost a lot of prestige, it did good I think.
Could be. Trying to dig up the articles about it, I think it was around mid December/January that it began being reported. And I believe the first roadmap was revealed in December? So that may had been very well the case. But then again, to see so many people follow a pattern like this is unusual.
Yeah he is way more suited to manage rather than direct though he tends to really pack some emotion into his games though. Crisis Core, Type-0 and XV all broke me by the end lol So I hope he still has some input in the writing department (but not TOO active :p )
Also, I wasn't happy with the way the story unfolded too and as much as people try to cover up the holes, it was too obvious. But I think the 4 bro's and their journey made up for that, so much so that cries like a baby at the end. A lot has been remedied since and I think Ignis DLC was probably the best storytelling in the whole XV saga
Also XV suffers from what a lot of translated games suffer from, which is that it makes more sense the second time. People forget because at this point they know the stories well enough, but X and XIII suffered from the same issues.
I played XV again recently and the story makes sense now. Part of that is because of the updates, and part of it is because I picked up more than I did the first time.
There are still massive problems with the story telling though. But for me it's less about plot holes and more about badly told narrative.
Yeah, the plot devices used to push the story forward weren't effective. I mean it's kind of hard to pick up on what Luna is doing in the background even with watching Kinsglaive. It's really not a bad story and the lore is interesting as all hell, especially with the recently added boss battles and exposition but the game did suffer from a poorly paced and poorly told story. While I think it may be a translation thing, I think they struggled with the open world design too, and why they split the game into two distinct parts.
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Oh cool, were you the one making the thread about their coming to an Alaskan town? How was the talk, anything interesting?
Hasn't happened yet, later today around 3 and 6 but I'll report bakb
I know I'm jumping in to this late and this isn't what you're trying to say, but if we're being really honest that describes every single FF game there is.
The series changes characters, gameplay hooks, etc, etc. so much that there's bound to be a divide all over the place. Like you I dislike the narrative that it's just a vocal minority (in spite of loving XV myself and disagreeing with a lot of people's issues with it, at launch no less) I find the argument over if it was divisive or not a nebulous one considering we're talking about FF here.
Everybody here has their own take on the series, I for one will fight anybody who pretends XIII isn't trash or that Nomura isn't a risk on the director's chair. It's just how the fanbase has always been
Outside of being factually incorrect in three ways*, this is an incredibly disingenuous post that suggests anyone working on a certain product suddenly loses all ability to have an opinion, whether positive or negative.
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1) You're referring to someone who wasn't a QA lead in S-E nor is with S-E anymore, and has in fact done QA for a bunch of different companies
2) On the topic of 'someone', what's with the use of plural?
3) Every day? With the extra emphasis? Really?
I do hear you on being tagged up at least on the basis of interactions with others taking that into consideration (as an aside, personally, I couldn't really be assed and I'm not sure how freelance fits into the equation, and I *think* that people generally are aware enough whenever it matters and I partake in a discussion) but again, in this particular case the person you're referring moved on from that position so I'm not sure what you're expecting. A "verafied" history of job positions held in every company for anyone who's ever worked on games?
I feel that these days, just because you buy a game, doesn't mean you love a game. I mean I guess you're giving tacit approval to the developer, but especially with digital purchases/discounts, how many people just buy games just to try them out? FFXV obviously takes up a certain mindshare in the industry, regardless of how audiences feel about it. It's a big brand, and the core audience for gaming is larger than it has ever been before.
I'll take this to PM's, since I feel like I'm furthering a derail. I'll edit my post which has some minor hyperbole.
Based on how Verification works here, it's hard for me to get that tag because of how I move between companies often.
Second, I really don't post that often anymore on this site due to allegations like this. If opinion isn't welcome from me then I won't give it. Simple as that.
Third, I would hardly call retweeting and liking fan art "marketing every day." As a matter of fact, I've only been tweeting about FFXIV, MapleStory 2, Smash Ultimate, and the Patriots the last week. Is that unwelcome, too? To post things that are on my mind on my personal account on a separate site?
Forth, what I did post in this thread I fail to see as a defense of the game.
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This is a very good point. I would still say that XV is one of the more divisive entries in the franchise just because how many core elements are completely thrown out or done incompetently.
However, FF reception is always all over the place for almost every entry.
For my take, I'll fight anyone who thinks VIII isn't a terrible game with bloated systems all over the place that is only saved by its excellent world building. ;)
The private meeting was pretty fun. A few interesting factoids from the environmental artist:
1. His favorite environment to design was an area featuring a large turtle. The turtle itself was very cool.
2. In beta builds of the game you could warp at will, and players would warp into the sky infinitely and out of the skybox or over blocks and skip portions of the game.
3. The designers had a running joke of hiding a banana peel in the game all over the place trying to slip them by the qa staff. He doesn't think any of them made it into the game howeever.
4. All of the food they have in the game they tried to make in real life at these big team lunches where they would prepare them all together and enjoy it.
Lots more but those felt most relevant to this chat.
1. His favorite environment to design was an area featuring a large turtle. The turtle itself was very cool.
2. In beta builds of the game you could warp at will, and players would warp into the sky infinitely and out of the skybox or over blocks and skip portions of the game.
3. The designers had a running joke of hiding a banana peel in the game all over the place trying to slip them by the qa staff. He doesn't think any of them made it into the game howeever.
4. All of the food they have in the game they tried to make in real life at these big team lunches where they would prepare them all together and enjoy it.
Lots more but those felt most relevant to this chat.
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Oh cool, thanks!
Interesting that the desert was his favorite area - would've expected the opposite. And lol, don't think I ever saw any banana peel.
The hyperbole is becoming a bit much, he's a competent director that knows how to get a product out the door. He is not a visionary, he is not a storyteller, he is not an auteur, he is not a tensai, he did his job and after much-extended anticipation for the product his and the rest of the XV's team work paid off.*
In terms of sales, quality is up for debate and taste is subjective.
Exactly. People keep attacking the like it's worse turd in the franchise when there are many players that like the game. I for one played at launch and enjoyed more than XIII . Don't even played the added content.... I will hold it for my new Pc!
Took a few pics. The design process of the Leviathan was interesting. They bought real fish dissected them built pieces of clay around real fish parts to make the first models. When designing the world they started with a clay model of the entire map and placed pins at interesting locales like a road map. The entire idea of a road trip was the key theme for the game.
Overall the first meeting was a lot more informative on my end.
Overall the first meeting was a lot more informative on my end.
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Thanks for posting! Though nothing new here for me at least.Took a few pics. The design process of the Leviathan was interesting. They bought real fish dissected them built pieces of clay around real fish parts to make the first models. When designing the world they started with a clay model of the entire map and placed pins at interesting locales like a road map. The entire idea of a road trip was the key theme for the game.
Overall the first meeting was a lot more informative on my end.
yeah nothing crazy new. There were some... odd questions in the Q&A to say the least. One guy went full Comic Book Guy on them asking questions about the Regalia Type-F and why it has extra cables dangling from it despite it being an airborne vehicle. The two were just like... we didn't design that... :p
absolutely. While missing this "x factor" that , for example, nomura / kojima has.... he gets the job done efficiently.
a reverse kitase.