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I´m playing GTAV for first time and gameplay is mediocre
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Thanks for letting me know. I wasn't sure if my post was my opinion or not, but you cleared that right up. And it's great if "many" enjoy his characters. I happen to disagree with those people. Although I struggle to think of who this vaguely defined "many" who find any worth in his thinly-written stereotypes might actually be.
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RDR, Max Payne 3, and GTA4 are 8, 6, and 10 year old ps360 games respectively that all have more gameplay mechanics than GTAV. whats the argument here?
Yes because a Hummer not being able to push a mini fiat is so great and the greatest in any game ever made! plus barely any car deformation and none in the roofs!
also, stating the age of the game isnt an argument as I have pointed out
Every fantastic, well-received, best-selling game is overrated according to somebody.
GTA IV's damage deformation in V would've been the worst. You pay hundreds of thousands to customize your cars just for them to be easily damaged and trashed? No thanks!
Roof deformation is only disabled on the current-gen version due to first person mode. You can enable it on PC with the ENB but first person becomes unplayable if the roof is bent down.
Age matters when GTA V, 5 years later, still has the best driving mechanics and physics in any open world game.
Eh... I'm biased as I cannot stand GTA games... But I agree. Red dead bored me to tears as well
I do agree that the gameplay can be viewed as mediocre, though it was still a step forward for the series in many regards, the games strengths however are in the complete package and it really does shine in many areas. Great world design, really quite immersive, fun story with some fairly good missions and variety, huge amount of content, both for the main campaign and side activities. Its a great game overall, even if some areas of it are a bit limited, even for its time.
Maybe its time to give it another play.
Maybe its time to give it another play.
GTA5 was awesome at release but in Retrospect I think GTA4 was a better game
Hopefully one day R* can deliver a GTA game that not only has a excellent world but also excellent gameplay
Hopefully one day R* can deliver a GTA game that not only has a excellent world but also excellent gameplay
On the real, I've never seen anyone say they play GTA games for their gameplay mechanics. I always see people speaking on the world, story, character, funny things, just stuff like that. Even me, I just never pay attention to gameplay unless it's blatantly in your face.
For example, I started replaying San Andreas a few months ago and I forgot how annoying that bike shit was lol.
For example, I started replaying San Andreas a few months ago and I forgot how annoying that bike shit was lol.
lmao so because you yourself cant handle not crashing into everything within your vicinity, nerfing car deformation is okay?
and you telling me that PC modding tooltkits can enable better damage means nothing tbh. PC modding can do anything. Im talking about the vanilla game on all systems.
Also, no. You used GTAVs age in a context to excuse whatever dated mechanics it may have when games made by the same devs that predate it has better mechanics in them. Like RDR and MP3. And again, no. GTAV's driving is not the best in any open world game. Its arcadey garbage
Hold up, did you just say GTAV, a game thats constantly (and rightfully) criticized for its gimped physics, has the best physics in any open world game?
It makes total sense, I just haven't dug any Rockstar protags lately. Not my thing I guess.
Lol, this wasn't even true at release. Burnout paradise for example already outclassed it for more arcadey games and Forza Horizon is leaps above it now. I personally also preferred GTA4 driving but I know that is more love/hate.
After this post and the one in the RDR thread about how Max Payne has the best shooting mechanics, I think you should change your name to R* :P
I wasn't talking about racing games. It has the best driving physics compared to action open world games like Watch Dogs and such. And yes, Max Payne 3 has the best third person shooting mechanics ever.
I think I'm a simple man. I thought the driving and shooting was great and simple. Long Haul was the race me and the crew constantly did and always had a blast with.
People have different opinions than yours, bud. You should accept that.
Sure, let's not keep you from shilling for Rockstar in literally every topic concerning them.
Alright listen up everyone, nobody is allowed to criticize video games that I like ever again!
You sad ungrateful bastards.
The corporate ball washing on gaming side is hitting peak levels of embarrassment
Yeah, the gameplay is pretty shit, but everything else is good at least.
Hopefully R* can improve on that in their games, but after seeing gameplay for RDR2 I don't have much hope.
Hopefully R* can improve on that in their games, but after seeing gameplay for RDR2 I don't have much hope.
Lol jesus christ it's obvious what he meant. You guys are bringing open world racers into the mix where you can't even get out of your vehicle. You spend the entire fucking game in Forza Horizon inside a vehicle. The game is built entirely around driving. Of course it's going to have better driving than a game where it isn't the entire focus.
At the exact same time, GTAV is a last gen game that still manages to beat out any last or current gen game that tries to do the same thing it did. Watch Dogs, Watch Dogs 2, Mafia 3, none have even come close.
Yeah. You're right. I'm really sorry I dared to criticize a big-budget game from a huge company. It's absolutely embarrassing how "unthankful" I am. It doesn't matter if I think their product is gussied-up dogshit, I am being completely irresponsible by saying bad things about them on the internet. Truly, I need to do a better job suckling at the dried-up teat of our corporate overlords. Your example is an inspiration to us all.
What? that isnt nitpicking if thats LITERALLY what you said. "Any open world game" is what you said
Thanfully, i havent lost ALL hope in R* despite the utter trash that is GTAO (that probably gave Nintendo a heart attack). Most of the problems I have with V can be excused for the technology on which it released on. Last gen limitations really held it back from its true potential. But R* did make some dumb ass choices with the game and its kind of embarrassing coming right off of MP3 when GTAV has the worst shooting and shooting mechanics in a R* game since probably 2006. And R* choosing grandpa hunchback posture over crouch is just ridiculous.
At what point in a video game is the gameplay not "in your face"?
I actually like GTA's movement style, I like the driving, but the shooting in 5 I find particularly unwieldy. Ain't a fan. I like the way 4 plays better all around and perhaps better than any other 3D iteration in the series.
By "in your face" I mean to the point where I'm paying attention to gameplay mechanics, controls and "fighting with how to handle the game and what it's giving me to do" rather than letting things flow effortlessly. For example, Megaman X. That's a game where the gameplay isn't "blatantly in my face to where I'm fighting it" to me given I can just pop it in and flow through. I don't notice the controls, everything just "clicks." A game like I don't know, No Man's Sky when it debuted, that game's gameplay with it's item management to speed on my character, stuff like that's just giving me problems. In GTA's case when I play V I just don't see it. Sure, when I first played the game around the maybe 1-2hr mark I might have thought differently but that changed. I can pop it in and go however when I'm referring to one of the 3 generation of titles I'm always having to fight with something related to the gameplay. Whether it's CJ sometimes on a bike and it's handling or VC's camera and Vercetti's walking, that's what I mean when I say it. I'm more speaking on the gameplay flow and having an issue with that rather than the game's purpose. I never rode a bike again with CJ after that lol. Even if I know how the controls are and what I'm supposed to do, it's as if the gameplay at that point is overcoming my fun factor.
If you don't agree with that definition or if you have another name for it that's fine. I don't even know if it has a direct name but that's what I think of when I think of a fighting a game's gameplay if that makes any sense. I love when you can just "flow" through a game and once that click's it's a great experience. If a game can't click for me with it's gameplay chances are that's going to be a problem for me.
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That's all fine. I get the explanation.
But going by that, I feel the GTA games fight you every step of the way.
I can see why you'd say that. I just hope they continue to work on that with future titles and hopefully with RDR2. The games have a great world but at the same time it's not as fluid and everything doesn't click as well as it potentially could. Once they get that down then there's no stopping them in that area.
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I honestly hope RDR 2 plays like Max Payne 3. I mean, the character is even carrying the guns the same way. I enjoyed the gunplay in that more than in GTA V, but it wasn't a deal breaker for me.
I agree... The game, for as great as it is, isn't really that fun to play. Part of the reason why I never finished it.
The driving is perfectly fine, but the on foot controls are so damn clunky and flat out unresponsive. Animation is given way too much priority.
Shooting sucks so bad that auto-aim is the default (on consoles atleast)
Fucking loved GTA:SA though
The driving is perfectly fine, but the on foot controls are so damn clunky and flat out unresponsive. Animation is given way too much priority.
Shooting sucks so bad that auto-aim is the default (on consoles atleast)
Fucking loved GTA:SA though
I mean you're not wrong. Personally I didn't care for GTA V that much at all. I still think the greatest GTA games are VC and IV (despite the godawful driving mechanics).
Yea, I fell off GTA4 quickly. It just wasn't fun for me like GTAV is. In fact, every GTA for me I would sandbox for a while, then get bored.
GTAV is the first R* game that I actually beat and enjoyed playing for more than 10 hours. Gameplay couldn't have been that bad, I guess.
It's up there as one of the most overpraised titles next to uncharted 3 IMO
Player movement and control are terrible
Cops are overly aggressive and omnipresent that makes getting rid of cops, even at low levels, infuriating
Character development, or lack thereof, is laughably bad. You can tell the story was written around micheal with some kind of "sopranos" kind of edge to it and that Trevor and franklin were comparative afterthoughts. Micheal is the only character with any kind of development or growth.
Player movement and control are terrible
Cops are overly aggressive and omnipresent that makes getting rid of cops, even at low levels, infuriating
Character development, or lack thereof, is laughably bad. You can tell the story was written around micheal with some kind of "sopranos" kind of edge to it and that Trevor and franklin were comparative afterthoughts. Micheal is the only character with any kind of development or growth.
Controls are more responsive than in GTA IV, same goes for the driving, which feels are bit more arcade but fun.
Why they didn't use the ultra high precision of Max Payne 3 controls -- which offers 3rd person perspective and great animation -- I do not know.
In general I find the gameplay enjoyable, not perfect but definitely not mediocre.
Why they didn't use the ultra high precision of Max Payne 3 controls -- which offers 3rd person perspective and great animation -- I do not know.
In general I find the gameplay enjoyable, not perfect but definitely not mediocre.