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ps3ud0

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Oct 27, 2017
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Cool, guess my non-existent pre-order has been unthought of.

Problem is what's next...

ps3ud0 8)
 

Remo Williams

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God, I hate this shit, it happens all the time, although it's usually Xbox One owners who end up with the short end of the stick. Buyers on all platforms should be treated equally whenever possible. When the Season Pass for Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3 was for no apparent reason witheld from people who pre-ordered the Xbox One version, they complained, and the problem was eventually resolved (Phil Spencer had to intervene, though). So let the publisher know if you're not happy with this.
 

bsigg

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Oct 25, 2017
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It makes sense for them to give out the game considering the XB1 family doesn't have customization to the degree of PS4. Also, both pre-order incentives are both basic, I doubt Deep Silver and 4A Games are worried about an old game sales. Anyway, I don't know but it seems that if MS has been handed an exclusive gift, the gift isn't worth much.

Same thing happened with Tekken 7, the Xbox One version (digital) was rewarded with a BC version of T6 for free and the PS4 version was rewarded with exclusive stuff like the jukebox.

And I fully believe that if the PS4 had PS3 BC, it too would be getting those titles thrown in for free. This is a bit different in that it's the Xbox One version of Metro 2033 (Redux) and not the 360 version.
 

Ushay

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Oct 27, 2017
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The game has been cheap as chips for god knows how long, plus think its come to both online services for free at some point?

At least content isn't being locked behind exclusivity like Destiny was, or timed deals like Tomb Raider. Even better lock it right down like Titanfall or SFV. Still .. one has 2 full games, the other has a theme, the disparity is clear.

BC is the real winner here.
 

Lethologica

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think it would be better if they were giving out both Redux games. Like, "See where it all began with Metro 2033 Redux and Metro: Last Light Redux , free when you pre-order Metro: Exodus on Xbox One."

Still cool for some of the people who have never played 2033 Redux.
 

Remo Williams

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Jan 13, 2018
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It's not possible in this case, hence why the pre-order bonus is different for all three platforms

You people are really making some herculean effort to be upset about this

Why would it not be possible in this case?

And I dislike this practice because I was on the receiving end of it a few times already.
 

Starlatine

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Why would it not be possible in this case?

And I dislike this practice because I was on the receiving end of it a few times already.

because xbox cant have themes and both xbox and playstation cant get the artbook and OST

"why dont they give the game to all three platforms then", what if that is not their intention and they're just doing it to fill a blank for xbox users? what about all the people on steam who would surely want their artbook and OST instead of a cheap ass old game they could have bought for literal cents several times? what about the people who wanted the theme on PSN? you really wanted a forced down "parity" just for the sake of it? you think bethesda shouldnt give Fallout 3 as a pre order bonus for Fallout 4 to xbox users as well because PS4 have no BC and "well, it isn't fair!"?
 

DarthWalden

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Oct 27, 2017
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The thing I find kind of funny about this is that if you are a big enough fan of the Metro series that you are willing to pre-order it chances are you already own these games (possibly on multiple platforms)
 

Remo Williams

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because xbox cant have themes and both xbox and playstation cant get the artbook and OST

"why dont they give the game to all three platforms then", what if that is not their intention and they're just doing it to fill a blank for xbox users? what about all the people on steam who would surely want their artbook and OST instead of a cheap ass old game they could have bought for literal cents several times? what about the people who wanted the theme on PSN? you really wanted a forced down "parity" just for the sake of it? you think bethesda shouldnt give Fallout 3 as a pre order bonus for Fallout 4 to xbox users as well because PS4 have no BC and "well, it isn't fair!"?

So we agree it's possible, you're just coming up with a bunch of excuses. Yes, I want "forced parity" for my money, that's exactly what I want. Is that a bad thing? BC bonuses are another thing entirely, that's warranted, and the precise reason why I said whenever possible.
 

Van Bur3n

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Oct 27, 2017
26,089
Wtf, I'll cancel my PS4 pre-order.

You wanted the game enough to pre-order it so you could play as soon as possible, but as soon as you heard the other console is getting an old game along with it, you're cancelling? I mean, did you want to play the game in the first place or not? Or is this another brave protest in the name of consumer rights?

Some crazy mental gymnastics going on in this thread.
 

Starlatine

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Oct 28, 2017
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BC bonuses are another thing entirely,

You're right about that, they're worse. One version gets extra content over another that gets nothing. In the end is still under the contention point of a version getting a "free game" and the other not, which is what is causing such outrage in this thread. You either find both fine or both problematic - there's no middle ground here.

And i'm not making any excuses. Your argument could work if the steam release received a wallpaper or something and only the xbox version got the better value (the game). In this case, the steam version is vastly the better one with the OST and artbooik so why people are upset about the xbox version instead of the steam version i have no idea. Since you shared your selfish viewpoint of "i want more value for my money" i'll share mine and say i want things to stay this way because i'm getting it on steam and i want the OST and artbook instead of yet another copy of a game that is more than often bundled with Last Light Redux for 5 reais (or less!).

edit: had used the expression "fucking copy" in one part of the post and made it sound way more aggressive than i intend to, so better to take it out before any confusion happens
 
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Vinc

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Oct 25, 2017
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You wanted the game enough to pre-order it so you could play as soon as possible, but as soon as you heard the other console is getting an old game along with it, you're cancelling? I mean, did you want to play the game in the first place or not? Or is this another brave protest in the name of consumer rights?

Some crazy mental gymnastics going on in this thread.

Settle down here, is this really "crazy"? There's plenty of very rational reasons why someone may cancel a pre-order. Here's the additional context in my case, since I apparently need to justiify my cancellation of a video game preorder to not seem crazy:


It definitely is a protest thing, which I can afford to do because I didn't want it that bad in the first place and only pre-ordered it preemptively due to cost savings. Might preorder again on Xbox if another deal comes around.
 

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You people are really making some herculean effort to be upset about this

Nowhere near as much effort as some of you are putting into downplaying the matter simply because of who is doing it. What gives you the right to tell people they can't be annoyed by this exactly? What's it to you?

This is going to be a useful thread to look back on next time Sony have some sort of deal with a third party resulting in a similar outcome if nothing else though I guess.
 

Starlatine

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Nowhere near as much effort as some of you are putting into downplaying the matter simply because of who is doing it.

But who is doing what exactly? Do you even have proof if this is by microsoft or by deep silver? And as i said, why are you so intent on banging on the xbox pre order bonus when steam clearly got advantages over the PS4 version anyway (and in my opinion clearly better than the xbox as well). As for your "people have the right to be annoyed by whatever they want" sure, but other people can find your annoyance petty as well. I'm sure you would be finding weird anyone saying steam got the short end here because they wanted a theme instead.

But by all means if i ever complain in the future about Square Enix giving FFXV as a preorder bonus to FXVI on sony systems only while xbox users get a month of gamepass or whatever else you can come back and show me my posts here. I doubt that will happen though. Unless you're trying to compare this with exclusive content/timed releases which we both know is not the same thing. Unless you can prove Metro 2033 redux is now impossible to get on psn or something.
 

IIFloodyII

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Oct 26, 2017
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I already have the Redux games so this doesn't do anything for me, but for fuck's sake we are getting console exclusive pre-orders now, not happy with that, because you know that shit won't be a 1 off.
 

Kalik

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Nov 1, 2017
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so the Aurora Edition (PC) is only available in Belgium, Netherlands and Ireland?...
 

Remo Williams

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You're right about that, they're worse. One version gets extra content over another that gets nothing. In the end is still under the contention point of a version getting a "free game" and the other not, which is what is causing such outrage in this thread. You either find both fine or both problematic - there's no middle ground here.

I don't think so, if one version is getting a bonus because of a platform feature that doesn't exist elsewhere, that's fine. Whether that's a BC copy of a game, a dynamic theme, Avatar gear, whatever - I don't mind. If you do, that's an issue for you to solve with a platform holder of your choice. If there are platform-exclusive bonuses on each platform, that's also fine, as long as they're of the same type or if everyone agrees they're of roughly the same value. But here they are not, and there are no good reasons why buyers on any platform should feel like they are getting less for their money.

And i'm not making any excuses. Your argument could work if the steam release received a wallpaper or something and only the xbox version got the better value (the game). In this case, the steam version is vastly the better one with the OST and artbooik so why people are upset about the xbox version instead of the steam version i have no idea. Since you shared your selfish viewpoint of "i want more value for my money" i'll share mine and say i want things to stay this way because i'm getting it on steam and i want the OST and artbook instead of yet another copy of a fucking game thats bundled with Last Light for 5 reais

You're straight making shit up now. My stated viewpoint is not "I want more value for my money", it's "I want equal value for my money". What's selfish about that? And yes, games don't always cost the same on each platfom, but that's again due to differences that should best be discussed with your platform holder of choice.

I have no horse in this race, this is a matter of principle. I'm getting this on Xbox, because that's my preferred platform; I don't have a PS4 yet anyway, and I dislike playing games on PC. Furthermore, I already own the Metro Redux bundle, so I don't care about the bonus game. If anything, I could be jealous of the Steam bonuses, but in this case I simply don't care. However, some other people do, and I can understand why, because I was in their shoes a few times in the past. I don't want to be in their shoes ever again, and I don't think that anyone should be.

If you really want the Steam bonuses, how about you buy them as DLC? People pre-ordering games should be treated equally whenever possible. Here it's possible. Saying "fuck that, I want my preferred/better bonuses" - now, that's selfish.
 

Van Bur3n

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Settle down here, is this really "crazy"? There's plenty of very rational reasons why someone may cancel a pre-order. Here's the additional context in my case, since I apparently need to justiify my cancellation of a video game preorder to not seem crazy:


It definitely is a protest thing, which I can afford to do because I didn't want it that bad in the first place and only pre-ordered it preemptively due to cost savings. Might preorder again on Xbox if another deal comes around.

Me settle down? You settle down!

So I see your true sinister motives behind the pre-order, for you did not want it that badly in the first place (shame on you). This is fair enough (still shame on you). But I still find the protest part silly. Of all of the garbo that goes on in this industry, this is perhaps the least offensive. "But myeh it's the principle that counts, see" but myeh getting the redux for free is hardly a bonus when one can get the redux in the first place for pocket change. Getting your jimmies rustled over it doesn't seem rational to me. It seems more so "petty" as was the word that was used to describe getting up in arms over this.

Hell, I can just buy the game for you and make all of your problems go away, but I gotta buy me dinner. And my dinner is a bit more sophistiqué than my crappy lunch at work.
 

Acquiesc3

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Oct 30, 2017
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Oddly enough I'd be happy to get that dynamic theme since I already have 2033 Redux on PS4 and X1 lol
 

Vinc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Me settle down? You settle down!

So I see your true sinister motives behind the pre-order, for you did not want it that badly in the first place (shame on you). This is fair enough (still shame on you). But I still find the protest part silly. Of all of the garbo that goes on in this industry, this is perhaps the least offensive. "But myeh it's the principle that counts, see" but myeh getting the redux for free is hardly a bonus when one can get the redux in the first place for pocket change. Getting your jimmies rustled over it doesn't seem rational to me. It seems more so "petty" as was the word that was used to describe getting up in arms over this.

Hell, I can just buy the game for you and make all of your problems go away, but I gotta buy me dinner. And my dinner is a bit more sophistiqué than my crappy lunch at work.

Just to clarify here, "protest" is a bit of a strong word maybe? Don't know, didn't give it much thought. Basically, I would like this pre-order bonus and the fact that I ain't getting it despite preordering based on what platform I preordered on sucks, so I'm cancelling my preorder on that platform since I now perceive I'm being treated as a "second-class citizen" of sorts. I ain't seething with rage here, just bummed my preorder isn't as valid as someone else's, so considering I didn't want the game that bad in the first place, might as well cancel! My jimmies aren't rustled, I'm just making the decision to cancel a pre-order for a non-essential product because this move slightly annoyed me.

Also, who cares. Movin' on.
 

Van Bur3n

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Just to clarify here, "protest" is a bit of a strong word maybe? Don't know, didn't give it much thought. Basically, I would like this pre-order bonus and the fact that I ain't getting it despite preordering based on what platform I preordered on sucks, so I'm cancelling my preorder on that platform since I now perceive I'm being treated as a "second-class citizen" of sorts. I ain't seething with rage here, just bummed my preorder isn't as valid as someone else's, so considering I didn't want the game that bad in the first place, might as well cancel! My jimmies aren't rustled, I'm just making the decision to cancel a pre-order for a non-essential product because this move slightly annoyed me.

I suppose this is fair enough. You've won me over. For now.

Also, who cares. Movin' on.

That's the spirit.
 

D4rth Man7iz

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I already have it, so regardless of the pre-order bonus I'll be there day 1 for Exodus. One of my most anticipated games of 2019.
 

TheBeardedOne

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That's a good deal for Xbox One owners. Makes me wish I hadn't bought Metro Redux when it was on sale, because I still haven't played it.
 

Outrun

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Nowhere near as much effort as some of you are putting into downplaying the matter simply because of who is doing it. What gives you the right to tell people they can't be annoyed by this exactly? What's it to you?

This is going to be a useful thread to look back on next time Sony have some sort of deal with a third party resulting in a similar outcome if nothing else though I guess.

I thought that his response was well balanced.

If Sony gets Avalanche to throw in Just Cause 2 and 3 with a PS4 preorder of JC4, I will also be fine with that.
 

Daygon

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Fallout 4 on XB had Fallout 3 BC as a bonus also, while PS4 had... nothing in that instance.

And I fully believe that if the PS4 had PS3 BC, it too would be getting those titles thrown in for free. This is a bit different in that it's the Xbox One version of Metro 2033 (Redux) and not the 360 version.

I'll say this again and it's probably closer to the truth. If MS had paid for any bonus/bonuses, Sony/PS4 would've not received anything. This is most likely Deep Silver and 4A Games doing.
 

Kerozinn

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May 11, 2018
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I mean they really makin it easy for me to pass on this game in general. Good luck with that.
 

Liliana

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Oct 28, 2017
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People never stop to amaze me how petty as hell they can be.
Wow.

Jesus Christ, the overreaction to something so insignificant. Why would you pre-order Exodus if you haven't played 2033 anyway?

Yep. Some of these posts read like they were never interested in the first place. It's like bizarro world.

I mean they really makin it easy for me to pass on this game in general. Good luck with that.

Case in point right here.

If this is enough to cause you to "pass" on the game, I don't think you were ever really interested.
 

SBit

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Yep. Some of these posts read like they were never interested in the first place. It's like bizarro world.



Case in point right here.

If this is enough to cause you to "pass" on the game, I don't think you were ever really interested.

But you don't understand! How can he enjoy the game, no matter how great it is, when he knows (and this is gnawling at his mind days and night) that some NOBODY on XBOX gets to get the prequel FOR FREE!? ZERO DINERO!?! NO DOLLA!!!???

Surely as a PS owner he is ENTITLED to that as well. Nay! As the good playstation fanboy he deserves MORE! 4A Games should personally sign every copy for people buying their games on playstation and also gift them their entire game catalogue.
It is afterall DESERVED!


Excuse my harsh sarcasm, I have difficulties dealing with these kinds of situations. And I'm not even getting this game on consoles but on PC so I have no eggs in the basket either way.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm living in an alternate universe. Like you said, bizarro world.
 

NLCPRESIDENT

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Oct 25, 2017
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Uh.. I think Metro was given with PS+ at one point, wasn't it? I dunno.. but, this is a wait and see game. I own both on PS4 but never got around to actually playing them.
 

Starfire22

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Doesn't really bug me. I don't own either console, or a PC (yet).

I can possibly see the issue for others, but you guys do realize that the Redux set costs signifigantly less than Exodus (with 2033), right? That game is always on sale. Plus you get two games instead of one. (In the case of the bonus)
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Is the new Metro game doing anything different?
In what way? It's still a survival horror stealth FPS.

They seem to have added crafting for customization of guns, which makes sense considering most of them are built out of spare parts. Otherwise it seems that resource management will still be important, but the game takes place over 1 full year in terms of story, and features open levels as well as linear ones.

It's probably not going to be vastly different if you didn't like the other games. I would expect it to feel a little more tight and polished though, probably very similar to Last Light or Metro Redux.