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IGN to scrub Filip Miucin from site almost completely after even more plagiarism surfaces (READ OP)
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It's not that great a take. Those other people don't get hired in directly to be an editor.
I have to agree 100%. I was talking with someone on twitter about this specific point, and even if you hire someone who is professionally trained and sterling, most of the time there's really no way to detect these sorts of things in the hiring process (though I imagine he would have had to have provided samples of his work; whether or not those samples were plagiarized may not have been immediately apparent), but I'd wager if that were the case he wouldn't have been cocky enough to put up copied work for their consideration.
I *hope*.
The scale of the plagiarism is something that's come to light after one instance finally got tagged. It was a starting point that lead everyone to all this. What starting point would IGN have had? The only opportunity would have been after his hiring IF an overseeing editor or manager somehow had watched or read whatever article he plucked from AND noticed some similarities. The only real opportunity you could say was the borrowing from his coworker. In that case the similarities might have been noticed because there was a chance that the same overseeing editor or manager looked at both. But what if two different people checked those reviews/previews? Again, unless they had some reason to suspect Miucin, why would anyone think there was anything amiss about his article? There's an argument to be made here that internally, articles/scripts could be fed through something like what they use in academia, but this is not the norm for the vast majority of companies. You just don't suspect your coworkers, your professional peers of malfeasance unless you have some kinds of signs.
In terms of the vetting process, it's not the norm to treat potential hires like the CIA would. Criminal checks, references, degrees, heck, even credit checks, but you're not going in there with the expectation/suspicion that their portfolio is anything but their own original body of work. Again, you could make an argument here that they could invest in some kind of anti-plagiarism tool, but unless they've developed one for podcasts, youtube transcripts, etc., I don't know how useful it'd be. Basically, you're asking for a level of scrutiny associated with jobs where lives are at stake, not entertainment gigs. Is that realistic to have expected it of IGN? Is it even realistic to expect it following this?
The post was in bad faith because the entire basis of it was on something they misconstrued.
I'm sorry, I skimmed this and saw the CIA comparison, I'm not doing this again, I'm not arguing with people who conflate basic things to some ridiculous standard to make their point.
If it's infinite and free to give, what is it's value? It's not like if we're all empathetic enough Filip's life will suddenly have value and he'll get off that ledge your imagination has put him on.
Yes, I can imagine hypothetical scenarios where I'd feel desperate enough to plagiarize something, and I can imagine that if I got caught for doing it and the internet was dragging me for it I'd probably feel like shit.
My response, though (and I feel this would be most rational people's response), would be to either own up to my error and explain the circumstances that led me to it, or to just disappear and start a new life somewhere else because I didn't want to face the music. In either case, I'd imagine interest would die down fairly quickly.
Instead, Filip denied doing it, lashed out, and goaded people into continuing to look into him. This showed a complete lack of introspection or responsibility on his part, was obviously counter-productive.
It went from "that guy made a mistake" to "that guy has a history of shitty behaviour and is being a shit about it", which is much harder to empathize with, unless you A) also have a history of shitty behaviour and being a shit about it, or B) like to imagine that you're better than random people on the internet because you pay lip service to being above saying mean things that probably won't have an affect on things either way.
Talent can come from anywhere. This whole "journalism" purity test is right out of the GamerGate playbook.
At least part of his resume was taken word for word from a guidelines document somewhere else, from what I understand.
Yup, I've seen this at work too. Boss randomly brings in a guy and completely bypasses the normal recruitment/interview process. No one knows about it until he shows up. Said guy typically really sucks.
I've seen it happen to a guy when it wasn't even the guy's fault. I think one time, a moron boss brought in a pretty unskilled guy who was clearly hired only as cheap labor or to increase headcount or some shit. The guy was hardworking, but just didn't have the language or technical skills to actually be useful in our environment. Everyone struggled to find work he could do, but it was clear that he just had no place in our environment, and he got let go a few months later.
I felt bad for the guy. He shouldn't have been hired in the first place.
Oh my god. Seriously what an ego maniac this guy is. Like I can't stop being amazed at how a stupid he is.
Or you could actually read it since I did you the same courtesy and addressed your points? It's fine if you disagree.
One thing that bothers about Filip being a YouTuber is that his channel isn't that big. Yes, he had 62.000 subs, but there are people around there with more than that. He had many videos indeed, but he was still gathering public
It can, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't require talent to have some experience before promoting them to the highest level of your creative staff.
FWIW this is a great post and it is a shame the other user dismissed it so readily. I'm half tempted to submit a "sample review" to ERA and ask them how long it took to identify whether it is genuine or not to prove the point that it is near impossible to screen every applicant for this. If someone lifted something word for word, sure that's an easy catch, but paraphrasing and videos are near impossible to catch.
It's not only about should they tighten their process it's about if they even can tighten their process.
I mean, we know Filip wasn't hired exactly because he was the best out there, but we was the best one that was willingly to work for the salary IGN was giving. I guess IGN contacted better or more famous youtubers but they were unwillingly to move to SF and work for that price.
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IGN is the same company that hired a woman based on how well she licked a vita right? I don't really trust their hiring practices
Are you serious? Jessica Chobot is a fantastic host. She got hired for a lot more than just licking a Vita.
WTF is with this revisionist history garbage
I think what they mean is that no matter how educated someone is that it doesn't necessarily exempt them from plagiarizing something, even if they know what it is.
Thing is he didn't even rise ride through the ranks. IGN made it easy for him and straight up hired him as editor in chief for all things Nintendo from just being a YouTuber and no prior experience
If I was Filip, I would own up to being a pathological liar and plagiarist. Then get paid for an interview with Jason and together pitch Filip's unbelievable story to a movie studio based on his bizarre lack of professionalism as a game journalist. Just don't consult Filip for the title or script and make the movie based on a true story.
I posted alot about IGN and how appalling them hiring Filip has been as well as them not noticing shit while he was hired their
But this post takes the cake and you are just being a hater
How about the sentiment "that's what IGN gets for hiring a terrible writer and terrible on live camera personality to be tulheir Nintendo Editor and host of a weekly podcast"?
A question... Why do these companies love putting their offices in such expensive cities? What is gained by having to scramble for pathetic paycheck that is barely livable in SF, when you can instead station at a cheaper city? Your earnings are all online anyway, so physical location doesn't matter, meaning that you literally just wasting extra money that could be put elsewhere by continuing to be in SF.
We got in a situation where there is literally a chance that Filip isn't his name
His LinkedIn was partly plagiarized. Unless that news came out yesterday. Along with other examples a few pages back.
Too much info to keep up lol
she was a great host. but at the time I was always under the impression the pic was the catalyst for her being hired.
He wasn't, to my knowledge, "editor-in-chief" he was just an editor, which is essentially a meaningless title. Everybody's an editor. He was "the Nintendo editor" whatever that means. Also just looking at the content of his channel the dude made tons of videos discussing Nintendo content, so he appeared qualified. The fact that he seemed more confident doing it on his channel as opposed to how awkward he seemed when hosting the Nintendo show on IGN is probably a first good indicator that he's out of his depth, BUT it's easy to see that and chalk it up to nerves and not the fact that he was trying to administer his own original thoughts for the first time...
Oh and not that it really matters but I didn't mean "rose through the ranks" as in just at IGN I meant rose through the ranks as in his entire journey from a guy on youtube to being hired at IGN. From what I can tell he was hired to fill a specific role (vacated by Mr. Otero?) which is likely why it seemed like he was given a lot of responsibility for a new hire.
Thanks. I thought it tackled the crux of their issue (and others that I've seen), and laid it out from a general company perspective on why this kind of thing (despite being so rampant in this case) is hard to spot, but hey. And I am curious if they could pass your test. You'd have to restrict it to a certain number of people and have a time limit, too, to show the real restrictions that HR/managers are under. And you'd probably have to make at least 15 fake applicants to submit to each, each with large bodies of work... :P
Oh, I forgot to mention yesterday but his Bayonetta 2 review is almost a copy and past from his article about the differences between the wii and switch versions, which is a copy from Polygon lol
LOL I originally thought you didn't know the reference but it turns out I forgot the response in the movie. :P
It was poorly worded - I'm sorry about that. If you're serious and not just nitpicking maybe I can clarify:
- Some sentiments are implying that he was uneducated, therefore didn't know what plagiarism was or that what he did was wrong. While it may be true to some extent, having been taught about plagiarism most likely wouldn't have prevented this.
- His degree is irrelevant to the bad choices he made. People with extremely impressive degrees make bad decisions all the time.
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I am F******G DEAD at his plagiarized resume. Holy mother of all lords.
There has to be something else going on inside his head. No normal person would be ok in doing this.
I wouldn't be surprised if he makes an apology video claiming he has some mental illness of sorts. Like no, you are a serial plagiarist and you're done.
There has to be something else going on inside his head. No normal person would be ok in doing this.
I wouldn't be surprised if he makes an apology video claiming he has some mental illness of sorts. Like no, you are a serial plagiarist and you're done.
Doing 5-10 minute scripted and edited YouTube reviews is a far cry from hosting an hour long live podcast. His poor performance showed that. At the very least he never should've been host of that podcast
Both.
IGN has multiple editors and one editor-in-chief, but IGN is so huge, it's more like several websites combined, and the "editors" would be considered editor-in-chief on smaller sites.
IGN lost their Nintendo-editor last year (he got hired by Nintendo, as happens far too often). So they (apparently IGN's former editor-in-chief, who was fired recently for harassment allegations) decided to modernize and hire a video editor (aka: a Youtuber) to run the Nintendo side of IGN.
Your post absolutely nails what I think in regard to IGN's blame here. People have to be a lot more realistic about the hiring process.
But to what extent is enough enough? 10 examples? 20?
What is the responsibility of the individual doing the digging to stop and think "well I have the evidence to support my thesis, anymore would just do More harm to this individual than help my case...which is already sound"
Does empathy play any role whatsoever?
Vince Ingenito is the person with harassment allegations.
Steve Butts was the boss that tried to sweep it under the rug.
Edit: sounds like I'm wrong and there was some other "misconduct" that led to his firing beyond the handling of the Vince situation. My apologies.
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now now yall no need to get the pitchforks, maybe he got the resume from a press kit, happens all the time i hear