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Deleted member 11262

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Oh this is brilliant, we're heading to Final Fantasy meme territory here and it's glorious. Keep it coming. Don't forget about honour and pride.
TIL: Treating consumers different because of the platform they buy the game on is apparently not something that should be criticized.

No, the ones that criticize it should be ridiculed. Stay classy Era.
 

Liliana

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That's still less content than what you are paying for, we know why you have no issue with it.

Ironic, because what we do know is why your first post in this thread mentions Microsoft not being the good guys. Not sure why you're calling him out. Can you show me your posts where you were outraged at Sony paying to keep Destiny content off of Xbox all through the games life, even renewing it at one point? This doesn't even come within a decimal fraction close.

Transparent indeed.

Edit: beaten

The ultimate irony my friend

Indeed lol

Ooooooor it is also coming soon to Gamepass (heavily rumored) so this makes sense.

It is not an insidious plot as you make it sound.

Shhh, don't use common sense! It's all about evil Microsoft for certain individuals.

Lol thats not really an issue. Its not even exclusive content. Look at the destiny deals if you want to see the true shitshow of the gen in this regard.

One and done.
 

ElBoxy

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Y'all are complaining about MS buying out a pre-order bonus, meanwhile the PC version gets a bad ass art book.
 

Deleted member 11262

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It's funny coming from you, keep it up.
Funny coming from me, huh? How about you quote some of my fanboy comments?

People who quoted me are the biggest MS apologists on this site. You have any comments of me where I'm defending Sony on anti-consumer practices? How about you back your bullshit accusation up?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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MS making a deal to give away an old game for free is equivalent to Sony making deals to keep content exclusive to their platform apparently. Not saying MS wasn't guilty of the latter in the past, but damn some of you fanboys are just frothing at reasons to make Sony not seem so bad lmao.
 

Zophop

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Microsoft likely paid to provide free copies to their customers like they did with FIFA and the Xbox One launch, which is cool I guess.
 

egg

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Reminds me of when Assassin's Creed Revelations came with a copy of the original Assassin's Creed on PS3 if I remember correctly. Wasn't a pre-order bonus though, just was on the disc.
 

Dyashen

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Guess i should have taken a gas mask with me before going into this thread.

I feel like it's unfortunate for those who are preordering it on PS/Steam for not getting Metro2033, it kind of reminds me when some games back in 2015 like Fallout 4 and Rainbox Six Siege gave away the 360 versions of their predecessors like Fallout 3 or Rainbow Six Vegas 1&2.

I wonder if this is only for the digital version or if you're getting a digital code with your pre-order physical copy.
 

darrec

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TIL: Treating consumers different because of the platform they buy the game on is apparently not something that should be criticized.

No, the ones that criticize it should be ridiculed. Stay classy Era.
Answer me this then: you're putting a dynamic theme as pre-order bonus on PS4, now you need to do the equivalent on Xbox One (keep in mind Xbox doesn't have any dynamic theme options), how do you deal with this situation?
 

Shambala

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Lol half the guys complaining probably won't even be buying the game at all. Such outrage over nothing
 

gogosox82

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Pretty good bonus for xbox if you've never played metro 2033 but metro 2033 has been on sale for so cheap so many times, I'd assume that anyone who had a passing interest in the game would have grabbed it by now. In fact, I think it was like $5 in the last xbox sale. Not sure how great of a bonus this is. Think I'd rather have the theme, something that xbox players will never get.
 

Saint-14

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Ooooooor it is also coming soon to Gamepass (heavily rumored) so this makes sense.

It is not an insidious plot as you make it sound.
Never said it's a plot though? The platform holder with marketing gets these deals.

Ironic, because what we do know is why your first post in this thread mentions Microsoft not being the good guys. Not sure why you're calling him out. Can you show me your posts where you were outraged at Sony paying to keep Destiny content off of Xbox all through the games life, even renewing it at one point? This doesn't even come within a decimal fraction close.
Show me a post of me saying Sony are the good guys for these deals, that's right, you can't, just like your GTS accusation.
 

Jawbreaker

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Eh, I don't think this is a huge deal. Also, if you already own the game, at least a free theme on PS4 will be new to you. : p

What are the odds Sony includes the PS4 version of Redux on PS+ before the game releases? That could be another way around it, too.
 

Ebtesam

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Why Now Become an issue With MS while Sony Do the same With Exclusive Contents!

and it's not huge bonus anyway
 

ghostcrew

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Eh, I don't think this is a huge deal. Also, if you already own the game, at least a free theme on PS4 will be new to you. : p

What are the odds Sony includes the PS4 version of Redux on PS+ before the game releases? That could be another way around it, too.

I reckon we could see Metro Redux as a PS+ game soon. I think they're on PS Now aren't they? Not that that dictates PS+ releases.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Decent deal for both sides really. 2033 is cheap all the time and everybody who cares own the game. I won't benefit from it since I own the game and played it multiple times.

Also when did we normalize preordering? I thought everybody thought it was shitty stuff to do.
 

EdgeXL

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In all honesty I was going to get this for Xbox One X anyways but this literally shows why there is no reason for me to even consider the PS4 version. I don't use themes (I don't stare at my consoles' dashboards) and a game certainly sounds like a better preorder incentive than a theme I would never use.
 

EdgeXL

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Decent deal for both sides really. 2033 is cheap all the time and everybody who cares own the game. I won't benefit from it since I own the game and played it multiple times.

Also when did we normalize preordering? I thought everybody thought it was shitty stuff to do.

I don't think everybody came to a consensus. The reasons I preorder games are for preloading (It is ready to go as soon as possible) and bonuses that interest me.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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In all honesty I was going to get this for Xbox One X anyways but this literally shows why there is no reason for me to even consider the PS4 version. I don't use themes (I don't stare at my consoles' dashboards) and a game certainly sounds like a better preorder incentive than a theme I would never use.

To be fair some themes are pretty awesome. I have the free indivisible theme for mine but always wanted the persona 5 themes for the music alone. But I'm never spending too long on the dashboard so the are nice to exist but nothing super important.
 

Dabanton

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Are people actually upset about this?

both games are pretty regularly on sale for less than 7 dollars.
 

Qudi

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Metro Redux has been so many times on a sale for less than 5 bucks. If that is really a problem for anybody... I hope the dynamic theme is good.
 

christocolus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nice. I have been waiting for this game, will see the reviews before jumping in though. already own the previous games on Xbox One but this is a good incentive for those who haven't played them.
 

bsigg

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I think people calling this anti-consumer should really rethink what they're talking about.

Microsoft isn't withholding content from a new game from other players. They are in all likelihood subsidizing the cost of the additional title as part of their marketing deal of the game. This isn't a case where Microsoft has paid for content from Metro Exodus to be withheld from PS4 or PC players. Keep that outrage coming though.
 

Daygon

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I think people calling this anti-consumer should really rethink what they're talking about.

Microsoft isn't withholding content from a new game from other players. They are in all likelihood subsidizing the cost of the additional title as part of their marketing deal of the game. This isn't a case where Microsoft has paid for content from Metro Exodus to be withheld from PS4 or PC players. Keep that outrage coming though.

There's also a chance that MS didn't even pay for this and it done by the developer to beef up the package. If MS did offer pre-order incentives, I doubt PS would have got anything.
 

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That's a fucking gyp and a half there. If MS are behind this (And I can't see why they wouldn't be tbh) then that's one of the pettier marketing ploys we've seen all gen :P
 

headspawn

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TIL: Treating consumers different because of the platform they buy the game on is apparently not something that should be criticized.

No, the ones that criticize it should be ridiculed. Stay classy Era.

Damn, you're really going in and clamoring for this 4 year old re-release version of an 8 year old game and when it's not being given away with GwG for (three years ago) it hits $5 when it's on sale. It's not some unobtainable gem you're making it out to be.

Personally, if Xbox had themes I'd rather get that since I already own this game on 360 and bought it day one on Xbox One, then it was offered via GwG and I own it on PC as well where it used to go for like $2 IIRC.

With the theme, at least you're getting something new and exclusive and it's similarin price to this game sale price so it's not like its some ridiculous difference here.
 

bsigg

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There's also a chance that MS didn't even pay for this and it done by the developer to beef up the package. If MS did offer pre-order incentives, I doubt PS would have got anything.

I doubt Deep Silver and 4A Games would just throw in 2033 Redux for ONLY Xbox if Microsoft didn't have a marketing deal for the game. I mean the game is constantly on sale but it's money out of their bottom line if they're passing out codes that weren't picked up by someone else.
 

Daygon

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I doubt Deep Silver and 4A Games would just throw in 2033 Redux for ONLY Xbox if Microsoft didn't have a marketing deal for the game. I mean the game is constantly on sale but it's money out of their bottom line if they're passing out codes that weren't picked up by someone else.

It makes sense for them to give out the game considering the XB1 family doesn't have customization to the degree of PS4. Also, both pre-order incentives are both basic, I doubt Deep Silver and 4A Games are worried about an old game sales. Anyway, I don't know but it seems that if MS has been handed an exclusive gift, the gift isn't worth much.

Same thing happened with Tekken 7, the Xbox One version (digital) was rewarded with a BC version of T6 for free and the PS4 version was rewarded with exclusive stuff like the jukebox.
 

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Same thing happened with Tekken 7, the Xbox One version (digital) was rewarded with a BC version of T6 for free and the PS4 version was rewarded with exclusive stuff like the jukebox.

Fallout 4 on XB had Fallout 3 BC as a bonus also, while PS4 had... nothing in that instance.

Lol half the guys complaining probably won't even be buying the game at all. Such outrage over nothing

I would have bought it if it came with a free game. I literally only bought the Walking Dead final season pre-order on the PS Store because it came with the collection of the previous seasons, and I've already played those :/
 

Outrun

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Heck, I would take the dynamic theme over a game that I would not play anyways.

Win win for everyone.
 

Kraken3dfx

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It's kind of weird, but as people have said, these games have been next to nothing on both consoles in the past, I feel like if you haven't played 2033 (and Last Light as well), you should play them well ahead of when Exodus comes out. Both are great games, and the Redux versions are really well done.
 
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I'm curious about the reasons behind the difference. Wasn't there a similar scenario with Fallout 4, where on X1 you got Fallout 3 for free, but you didn't on PS4 (for obvious no-BC support reasons)? This is a little different, but it's interesting that we've seen similar differences before.
 

Mona

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Heck, I would take the dynamic theme over a game that I would not play anyways.

Win win for everyone.

if a person is preordering one metro game, why would they be unwilling to play another?

a more frequent case would be "if you're preordering this you've probably already got Metro 2033 redux and would be much better off with the theme"