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Infinity War 4k video and audio sucks!!!
- Thread starter BlackFyre
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Disney releases are notorious for having poor sound output. Atmos sounds not so good in comparison to other releases from other studios.
OP
This is turning into Blu-ray.com forums in which if the bass isn't moving furniture than the audio sucks. There is a lot more to AQ than house shaking bass. You're not a audiophile if you think otherwise. You're just another basshead.
Stuff like this makes the proposed move by TV manufacturers to 8K real dodgy. For movies mastered in 2K, 4K is probably the best they can look on home video.
Disney has below average levels of LFE across the board and it makes a lot of things in their films sound weightless. It's not about being a basshead at all actually.
Disney 4K releases have shit audio. It's a thing, and I don't know why. I haven't gotten to IW yet, but visually it's gotten decent reviews for the home release. I know the first Avengers in Dolby Vision looks fantastic.
I watched it last night. The audio does suffer from what they're calling Disneyitis (which I counter by just turning it up), but the video is fantastic. If your blacks are washed out, it's something in your setup, not the disc. The movie is overall rather dark, but it's supposed to be... If you've cranked up the brightness, that's your problem.
When you're only knock is the bass, it really is. What about the directionality, use of surround and it's fidelity, dialogue, actual fidelity, balance of the channels?? There is a lot more to audio than just turning up the bass.
To call a track crap JUST because the bass wasn't skull crushing is absurd.
The overall sound field and detail gets panned as well, it's not just the LFE. Seriously if you compare the Disney lossless tracks in the last few years to any of the reference tier lossless tracks they all sound weak in every facet.
Can you show where it gets panned???
There is a huge difference between reference and "crap"
Most publications are saying it's good but not reference.
Ive been bitching about Disney releases for several years now due to their shitty mixes. I don't understand why they started doing this, just a few years ago I considered most of their releases the gold standard. Throw in any of the first three Pirates movies if you need a refresher on what an action movie should sound like.
If they're going to pretend like every bluray player, apple tv, phone, tablet, receiver and television on earth doesn't already have a "loudness" setting to reign in dynamics then the very least they could do would be to leave the Atmos/Surround track alone and offer the gimped version in stereo. A muted stereo mix would be more appropriate for the tv/soundbar/tablet crowd anyway.
If they're going to pretend like every bluray player, apple tv, phone, tablet, receiver and television on earth doesn't already have a "loudness" setting to reign in dynamics then the very least they could do would be to leave the Atmos/Surround track alone and offer the gimped version in stereo. A muted stereo mix would be more appropriate for the tv/soundbar/tablet crowd anyway.
You don't have to be. I'm an audiophile and it sounds pretty good. BP and Thor Ragnarok had more problems.
Very few marvel movies have massive visual polish or identity but this one was too CGI lead for obvious reasons.
The Disney atmouse mixes? Crunched dynamic range and lowered volume
Yes, very washed out looking movie. I think I remember thinking that in the theater as well, though. Guardians 2 is the Marvel movie that stands out as having actual black blacks in my memory. The rest seem to have a limited range with grey blacks.
I already addressed this and lowered volume?? Volume up then. You never hear complaints of a mix being too hot. That's what I can't stand about the HT community. The double standard.
For example, Transformers AOE was mixed way too hot, but no one complained because they either got what they got in terms of their ridiculous LFE or they just turned the volume down.
Downloaded the Google play version on my phone, Samsung Galaxy S5 5.1" 1080p, and it looks and sound great. Used some dollar store ear buds too.
Sorry OP.
Sorry OP.
These are not as good as they should be either. And as far as atmos goes, the height usage is almost nonexistant.
TLJ, BP, Incredibles, Thor, etc should have reference tracks but they simply don't.
Right but IW is far from crap in my, and most professionals opinions.
Check out the vudu version. It's better. Ready player one though is just a better source. I feel like marvel purposefully softens their movies to hide the CG. I will say this. The Vudu version is so clear that it ruins the movie at times. Iron man spider man and hulk buster all look like floating human heads on cgi especially Spider-Man in some scenes where his body seems off. The audio is still bad though nothing to be done there.
Someone in the streaming thread said the Dolby Vision stream looked so good they felt like crying LOL
We just ignoring how two posters posted the same comment huh? Alts?
Not worth explaining.
Can't speak to the audio as I don't have a surround setup, but for the video, I think it's fine and the issue is you're just watching a Marvel movie and they're all ugly.
What if he just makes a lot of money? Lol how about you just let him live his life
You really think they're selling their integrity for a $30 Blue Ray
You might underestimate how much hate people here have for those perceived as upper class.
A $20,000 setup isn't that unrealistic.
Mine is worth about $15,000 (Canadian)... I didn't pay $15,000, though.
75" Vizio P series - $6000
Marantz receiver - $1000
Paradigm pdr-12 Subwoofer - $1200
Paradigm millennia LCR speakers - $900 ea
Paradigm millennia Side and rear surrounds - $900 ea
I got lucky and found barely used store demo speakers and such that brought my actual price paid down to probably $9500 or so.
With it, I built a full home theatre in the basement.
It's worth every penny.
Mine is worth about $15,000 (Canadian)... I didn't pay $15,000, though.
75" Vizio P series - $6000
Marantz receiver - $1000
Paradigm pdr-12 Subwoofer - $1200
Paradigm millennia LCR speakers - $900 ea
Paradigm millennia Side and rear surrounds - $900 ea
I got lucky and found barely used store demo speakers and such that brought my actual price paid down to probably $9500 or so.
With it, I built a full home theatre in the basement.
It's worth every penny.
Go poke around on the Games side, the truth will reveal itself to you...
... like a thousand times.
You do tho, lots of mixes are too hot.
The problem with Disney is, the lossy Dolby mix has the correct volume and dynamic range.
Yesterday at 11:45 PM
Yesterday at 11:46 PM
...what the hell happened here?
if OP truly has a 4k HDR projector, it probably cost close to half of that number, leaving the rest for a pretty decent surround setup.I think this is the first complaint I've heard of IW in 4K.
ive been eying a Sony 4k HDR projector at around 7-8k
Hmm very odd. This was not my experience at all video wise and I'm really picky about elevated blacks. I thought the movie took a very balanced approach to to its color grading and black levels, especially compared to a lot of past marvel movies.
As far as the sound goes, the main issue I noticed is that the dialogue had a filtered, not very present quality to it. The Atmos effects were fairly present and felt dimensional though. There are a couple of odd mix choices though in certain moments.
In my experience, there was almost TOO much bass throughout the film, leaving a sort of stuffy quality to the film and a drowning low rumble throughout much the film and I have a well calibrated system, so it's not due to an overcompensated subwoofer.
My copy arrived early so I've watched it a few times and it looks great. The issue for me is the digital version looks bad. A friend has it and says it looks good but it looks compressed to hell to me. I had the same issue with the Jurassic Park series, the digitals looked awful. I keep thinking something's wrong but no clue what it could be.
Correct.
Like I said earlier, this is not even including the cost of the projector screen.
My system is fairly decent, and I could not get the sound right, either. The video looked fantastic (except for the very opening shot in space, that looked fake as hell compared to the theater, where I didn't notice it at all) but the sound was mixed really strange. The dialogue and sound effects were muted and the OST was overly loud.
Still enjoyed the hell out of it, but wtf..
Still enjoyed the hell out of it, but wtf..
Exactly. A proper audio setup can last 25 years minus the receiver. People freak when I tell them my center channel was 1,000 usd. It's worth it
In my opinion projectors are not worth it especially right now with HDR being a thing. OLED kicks projectors in the ass with proper HDR implementation. Never seen a projector look better or even as good.
I'm pretty demanding when it comes to image quality and while the audio isn't the best, the video definitely does not "suck".
I've seen better, but I've seen way worse. Overall it's pretty good, but nothing amazing.
I've seen better, but I've seen way worse. Overall it's pretty good, but nothing amazing.
Should I even bother getting the 4K disc vs digital 4K on Vudu? My philosophy is to get the disc for all visual showcases, digital otherwise. I incorrectly assumed TLJ would be one of those showcases and was really disappointed (by the visual fidelity, love the movie).