I was a developer and producer on these projects and was curious how many of you played those MMOs when they were out. I'd love to hear some stories :)
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Do we have any old school Dark Age of Camelot or Warhammer Online players here? (MMO)
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I played Dark Age of Camelot for years, one of my favorite games of all time. I loved that game, it was my first MMO and brings back a lot of fond memories. I met many great people through the guilds I was in and had such a good time with the PvP system, nothing better than sieging a relic from one of the enemy realms or wrecking havoc in Darkness Falls!
I played Warhammer for a while. I really liked that one. The public quests were great fun and the setting/graphics were top notch at the time.
I don't have any stories that I remember per se but I loved what I played of it.
I don't have any stories that I remember per se but I loved what I played of it.
Dark Age of Camelot was the first MMO I ever played. Loved it and had very fond memories of all the cool people I met while playing it.
Got into Warhammer Online kind of late but really enjoyed what I played of it too. Thought the enemy, class, and area design was really cool. Was disappointed to hear that it got shut down a few years ago, and wonder if anyone has cobbled together any kind of public server or project for it.
Got into Warhammer Online kind of late but really enjoyed what I played of it too. Thought the enemy, class, and area design was really cool. Was disappointed to hear that it got shut down a few years ago, and wonder if anyone has cobbled together any kind of public server or project for it.
Warhammer Online is one of my alltime favorite games and I'm sad I got hooked on it as late as I did. Excellent aesthetic, great classes, and literally the only MMO I've enjoyed PVP in. Very fond memories of myself and a good friend holding off an entire team at a flag as a healer/tank combo. Disciple of Khaine and Warrior Priest remain some of my 2 alltime favorite MMO classes ever.
I played Warhammer Online, have the massive Collectors Edition box at home still. So does my bro. Awesome game, was gutted what happened. :(
I never personally played DAOC but I remember watching it at a friend's house when I was 14 or 15. I hated myself at the time for not having a PC and an internet connection to play it.
what the fuckkkk awesome dude, me and my friends grew up loving mythic games
when i was 13? (in my 30s now) we were bored as hell in mississippi and picked up dark age of camelot at walmart of all places and played the absolute shit out of it for the next two years as hibernians. made tons of friends across the country as we raided and moved around guilds. played on and off as the other realms for a few years. still remembering getting my epic armor on my warden, had 15 or twenty other real life people helping me. crazy stuff.
completely reignited my love of the genre when warhammer online came out. absolutely killed that game with my wife and best friend. great great times, great games.
RvR and siege combat are probably my best online gaming memories period. one time me and my friend were talking on the phone and managed to sync up 2 backstabs on a zerker (as nightshades) and 1 hit him and proceeded to die laughing for the next twenty minutes. so much dumb shit like that. i probably still have screenshots backed up somewhere.
nerding out right now!
when i was 13? (in my 30s now) we were bored as hell in mississippi and picked up dark age of camelot at walmart of all places and played the absolute shit out of it for the next two years as hibernians. made tons of friends across the country as we raided and moved around guilds. played on and off as the other realms for a few years. still remembering getting my epic armor on my warden, had 15 or twenty other real life people helping me. crazy stuff.
completely reignited my love of the genre when warhammer online came out. absolutely killed that game with my wife and best friend. great great times, great games.
RvR and siege combat are probably my best online gaming memories period. one time me and my friend were talking on the phone and managed to sync up 2 backstabs on a zerker (as nightshades) and 1 hit him and proceeded to die laughing for the next twenty minutes. so much dumb shit like that. i probably still have screenshots backed up somewhere.
nerding out right now!
I've only dabbled in DAOC, but had friends that were hardcore Realm warriors. I had played the Warhammer Online beta and only subbed for the first month on release. I didn't stick around due to friends either still playing WoW or FF XI. Now I'm an older broken man, looking for an MMO without the time.
I have plenty of time, I just lurk on ERA
Played DAoC as Midgard on Merlin for a long time. Bunch of us played together. I remember actually taking a screen shot the first time I saw the sun in game. Humorous anecdote aside, it was a great game that I remember quite fondly. There was buzz about a sequel, but I guess it has yet to pan out.
I played the shit out of DAoC, and it's one of my favorite games of all time, amd easily my favorite MMORPG ever.
Hib Guin mostly, but I played the other realms on other servers. Gaheris and Mordred as well.
Stopped shortly after ToA (yeah, I know, common story.)
RvR was amazing, as was Darkness Falls. Hell, one of my favorite things to do was twink out alts for Thidranki and just run around solo until I found some realmmates, and if not oh well. I had one elven piercemaster I would run around solo with, bow out and cloak on so I looked like a ranger. Waited for infs and SBs to perf me then BOOM. Ate the perf, broke out the pokers, and surprised the hell out of them haha.
Thanks for all the work you did on the game. Was truly one of the greats. :)
Hib Guin mostly, but I played the other realms on other servers. Gaheris and Mordred as well.
Stopped shortly after ToA (yeah, I know, common story.)
RvR was amazing, as was Darkness Falls. Hell, one of my favorite things to do was twink out alts for Thidranki and just run around solo until I found some realmmates, and if not oh well. I had one elven piercemaster I would run around solo with, bow out and cloak on so I looked like a ranger. Waited for infs and SBs to perf me then BOOM. Ate the perf, broke out the pokers, and surprised the hell out of them haha.
Thanks for all the work you did on the game. Was truly one of the greats. :)
DAoC was one of my favorite games of all time. I played it throughout high school and my grades suffered a bit for it. It was a bummer when they started changing it to try and keep up with WoW (I forget what expansion). Though I guess it was already a bit long in the tooth by then. Had a lot of memorable moments. Played with my sister and her then boyfriend. I remember her trying to play it on her P3 500Mhz Dell. I'm not even sure what graphics card it had but I remember it not rendering the ground texture correctly.
Warhammer online had a lot of potential and was pretty different to what was out there then. Though it wasn't quite what I was looking for in an MMO. Edit: I did play it though for the first month or so. Played a Dwarf engineer (I think it was?). It was a cool class.
P.S. Hibs for life!
Warhammer online had a lot of potential and was pretty different to what was out there then. Though it wasn't quite what I was looking for in an MMO. Edit: I did play it though for the first month or so. Played a Dwarf engineer (I think it was?). It was a cool class.
P.S. Hibs for life!
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Daoc has been in my personal top 10 for years. Loved that game.
Warhammer was pretty great too. I still think it has the most interesting classes of any mmo
Warhammer was pretty great too. I still think it has the most interesting classes of any mmo
I played a few months of DAoC and I tried the beta of Warhammer Online. I was really more about Everquest, but I enjoyed and have fond memories of my time with DAoC, too. Although, my stories about DAoC would be like "I was walking around this hilly area and I found a dungeon and I wanted to explore it but I couldn't for some reason, then I died somewhere around there and had to walk back."
My Everquest stories are much more coherent as I remember the names of places, sorry.
I could see that in a lot of ways DAoC was the superior game, but the generic EQ style provided a smorgasbord of variety and I was already super invested.
My Everquest stories are much more coherent as I remember the names of places, sorry.
I could see that in a lot of ways DAoC was the superior game, but the generic EQ style provided a smorgasbord of variety and I was already super invested.
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So awesome to see everyone here that played these games! Had a blast being a part of the project. On Warhamer Online, I was the Producer that was in charge of Altdorf and The Inevitable City. Our goal at the time was to make the cities 'living' and 'alive'. I think we succeeded on that front, or I like to hope so!
One of the other cool elements I was a part of, was the creation of The Labyrinth dungeon/expansion. It was our goal to make one of the largest dungeons with PVP to boot! Check out this top down view of the 3 layered beast! The stories I could tell about designing and building this thing.
One of the other cool elements I was a part of, was the creation of The Labyrinth dungeon/expansion. It was our goal to make one of the largest dungeons with PVP to boot! Check out this top down view of the 3 layered beast! The stories I could tell about designing and building this thing.
I played both and loved both, though I remember more about Warhammer since I played it longer and it wasn't too long ago (wish it was still around).
I absolutely loved how Warhammer treated pvp with it's scaling and everything, it let people enjoy and have fun in pvp regardless of their lv so it didn't feel like you had to "rush" to the end to not get one-hit by a high level player like many other mmo's that did pvp suffered from. So out of the gate early on you could enjoy pvp and have fun with it without wanting to get to the top lv as quick as possible.
Also the waaagh mechanic, whoever designed that deserved a huge raise. That mechanic alone made playing a goblin shaman soooooooo much fun, instead of being a "healbot" and sitting in back you actually had to engage in combat (and didn't feel useless in it either) in order for your heals to be the most effective. It was so much fun playing that class (I usually hate playing healers in mmos).
Another thing I loved was the whole trophy system. I am an "explorer" when it comes to rpgs especially, and that's not usually something that is rewarded a lot. So it was surprisingly fun to just explore the world and come across hidden things and get a trophy for that which could actually be visually displayed on my character, made it feel special/worthwhile. I wish this kind of thing caught on in other games, even non mmorpgs.
I absolutely loved how Warhammer treated pvp with it's scaling and everything, it let people enjoy and have fun in pvp regardless of their lv so it didn't feel like you had to "rush" to the end to not get one-hit by a high level player like many other mmo's that did pvp suffered from. So out of the gate early on you could enjoy pvp and have fun with it without wanting to get to the top lv as quick as possible.
Also the waaagh mechanic, whoever designed that deserved a huge raise. That mechanic alone made playing a goblin shaman soooooooo much fun, instead of being a "healbot" and sitting in back you actually had to engage in combat (and didn't feel useless in it either) in order for your heals to be the most effective. It was so much fun playing that class (I usually hate playing healers in mmos).
Another thing I loved was the whole trophy system. I am an "explorer" when it comes to rpgs especially, and that's not usually something that is rewarded a lot. So it was surprisingly fun to just explore the world and come across hidden things and get a trophy for that which could actually be visually displayed on my character, made it feel special/worthwhile. I wish this kind of thing caught on in other games, even non mmorpgs.
Dark Age of Camelot was huge here in France before WoW arrived and ate its lunch.
DAoC was the first and last subscription-based MMO I played. Nothing enticed me quite like it before or after, except maybe The 4th Coming before it despite the jankiness (and because it was my first MMO, really).
I still remember playing the open beta on Hibernia/Ys as an Elf Mage, first spawning in Mag Mell, having no idea what I was doing, lagging like crazy because of my fairly average PC and the hundreds of people starting at the same time on day one like me. Having no idea how to fight, dying immediately against my first skeleton... It was amazing lol. Playing your first massively online 3D game, at a time when they were still fairly new besides Everquest, was like a window into the future. And the game looked so good to me haha.
Played for about a year and a half, mostly as a Void Eldritch, because I liked wizard classes that focused on big explosions and DPS. Too bad the class was so bad all things considered, and pretty much useless in RvR. I stopped a shortly after the release of Shrouded Isles. A few years ago I went to an unofficial classic server on a nostalgia trip. I even ran across an old friend from my server, which is kind of an amazing coincidence!
Speaking of RvR, that shit was incredible. Such tension, such adrenaline. The RvR dungeon, Darkness Falls, was quite an experience too, because you had the threat of other players wrecking your shit on top of the very powerful AI enemies. The memories...
Tripwire-Stone thank you for your contribution on this great game. What were you in charge of?
Also, anyone from Hibernia/Ys here?
DAoC was the first and last subscription-based MMO I played. Nothing enticed me quite like it before or after, except maybe The 4th Coming before it despite the jankiness (and because it was my first MMO, really).
I still remember playing the open beta on Hibernia/Ys as an Elf Mage, first spawning in Mag Mell, having no idea what I was doing, lagging like crazy because of my fairly average PC and the hundreds of people starting at the same time on day one like me. Having no idea how to fight, dying immediately against my first skeleton... It was amazing lol. Playing your first massively online 3D game, at a time when they were still fairly new besides Everquest, was like a window into the future. And the game looked so good to me haha.
Played for about a year and a half, mostly as a Void Eldritch, because I liked wizard classes that focused on big explosions and DPS. Too bad the class was so bad all things considered, and pretty much useless in RvR. I stopped a shortly after the release of Shrouded Isles. A few years ago I went to an unofficial classic server on a nostalgia trip. I even ran across an old friend from my server, which is kind of an amazing coincidence!
Speaking of RvR, that shit was incredible. Such tension, such adrenaline. The RvR dungeon, Darkness Falls, was quite an experience too, because you had the threat of other players wrecking your shit on top of the very powerful AI enemies. The memories...
Tripwire-Stone thank you for your contribution on this great game. What were you in charge of?
Also, anyone from Hibernia/Ys here?
Warhammer is and always will continue to be the best MMO to nail PvP elements and I fucking miss it everyday. I bought the collector's edition, was massively hyped and had a god damn ball with the game despite the technical issues that dogged it. Had it had been given time to actually fix issues and grow as a game it very much would be still around to this day showing us how PvP can be done so well.
What Warhammer did with physical hitboxes in PvP and just the pure insanity that was RvR was mind blowing at the time. Add in the sheer amount of classes like Bright Wizard (which still is the fucking coolest class ever) that were well balanced with actual mirror class matchups and it was just an astounding game to play.
The closest that seems to be coming to those elements of balance is Crowfall and funny enough that's because it has a few Mythic employees which makes sense. I don't think it will ever be repeated much like Camelot and even Lord of the Rings as that was truly the golden age for MMOs but gosh I wish I could go back.
What Warhammer did with physical hitboxes in PvP and just the pure insanity that was RvR was mind blowing at the time. Add in the sheer amount of classes like Bright Wizard (which still is the fucking coolest class ever) that were well balanced with actual mirror class matchups and it was just an astounding game to play.
The closest that seems to be coming to those elements of balance is Crowfall and funny enough that's because it has a few Mythic employees which makes sense. I don't think it will ever be repeated much like Camelot and even Lord of the Rings as that was truly the golden age for MMOs but gosh I wish I could go back.
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I was a design lead and environment lead. I designed and built expansion dungeons and I also re-did a lot of the starter towns environments :)
Yep I played both. But mainly played Dark Age of Camelot. We played all 3 realms in DAOC as The Zoo. Hibernia on Lancelot. Midgard on Pellinor and I forget which Albion server. One of the most craziest fights is when we were as Midgard and we completely annihilated and prevented the Hibs from retaking a fort/keep. The death kill count spam totaled over 80+ players. It was only a group of 8 of us vs so many. Savages were such an absurdly broken class. Have some old school fights recorded. My apologies in advance on the quality of these video as they were recorded on VCR tapes back in the day.
3 way fight at the infamous emain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2UxKeTjAEo
uh oh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV9B5P2P2cU
Not sure why it says video is unavailable.
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Warhammer was the last MMO I got into, really enjoyed the game and its mechanics for both PVE and PVP.
BTW, Altdorf was such a great location - great sense of scale of place with the different neighborhoods. Man, I really wanted to see more capital cities in that game!
BTW, Altdorf was such a great location - great sense of scale of place with the different neighborhoods. Man, I really wanted to see more capital cities in that game!
Me and my friends loved WAR unfortunately the game devolved into just rolling keeps on the Human/Chaos maps and the other two faction pairings were ignored.
DaoC came out like 3 years before WoW,right?
I was like 12-13 years old when i bought it because I've seen it at a German TV Show.
I played it for exactly the free 1 month because i couldn't pay for more game time but i had fun once i got it running.
The only shop that had it here was like 45 minutes away and back home the disc didn't work so i had to get back and convince the dude there to replace it which they weren't really happy about at first because this was at times where everyone pirated everything.
But he tried to install it on 2 of their PCs and it didn't work either so he gave me a new game.
I didn't have a clue about what to do and i mainly ran around killing some dwarves,running into a huge troll or something like that and other things.
Couldn't play much at that time though because of school and i definitely stopped playing at a "wood" area full of Spiders.
I remember not much from my own playing time but it got me interested in the Genre and was basically the game that got me to buy WoW years later and turn into a MMO addict lol
I was like 12-13 years old when i bought it because I've seen it at a German TV Show.
I played it for exactly the free 1 month because i couldn't pay for more game time but i had fun once i got it running.
The only shop that had it here was like 45 minutes away and back home the disc didn't work so i had to get back and convince the dude there to replace it which they weren't really happy about at first because this was at times where everyone pirated everything.
But he tried to install it on 2 of their PCs and it didn't work either so he gave me a new game.
I didn't have a clue about what to do and i mainly ran around killing some dwarves,running into a huge troll or something like that and other things.
Couldn't play much at that time though because of school and i definitely stopped playing at a "wood" area full of Spiders.
I remember not much from my own playing time but it got me interested in the Genre and was basically the game that got me to buy WoW years later and turn into a MMO addict lol
DaoC was my first MMO and it was blowing my mind, I don't remember the command anymore but when I got my first cape in that game and saw other people have the hood on I was like I want that too, then typed /hood or something and I had it on too, it absolutely blew my little mind back then.
Loved RvR.
Even though I love Warhammer I'll admit I never played Warhammer Online, I wasn't huge into gaming those years so missed it. My brothers played it and loved it though, always wanted to be Chaos Warrior myself too. Still have several of the Collector's Editions around, with the special Orc figure.
Loved RvR.
Even though I love Warhammer I'll admit I never played Warhammer Online, I wasn't huge into gaming those years so missed it. My brothers played it and loved it though, always wanted to be Chaos Warrior myself too. Still have several of the Collector's Editions around, with the special Orc figure.
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I played a lot of DAoC with SI, and ToA, unfortunately I moved on to other things before Catacombs, which I still regret to this day.
Also played a lot of WAR when it first came out, might've played for about a year.. Unfortunately I leaned more towards the forces of Destruction, whereas all of my friends were Order-types - so most of my time was spent playing a High Elf Shadow Hunter, although I much preferred playing my Chaos Marauder.
The only real story I have from any of the two was when an uncle and his guild were so kind as to drag my unexperienced ass into Darkness Falls.
I was a Shroom shaman, so I was just there as a buff-bot and back-up healer - but I don't think I'd ever been so stressed before that point.. Demons coming out of nowhere constantly - and we managed to run into two parties of unfortunate Albionians who hadn't gotten out yet, by the time we took over.
I remember the Albionians more than I remember the trek through the Demon hordes, if only because the Albionians attempted to kill me.
We managed to kill both Albionian parties, or at least most of them.. With about 8 survivors out of a horde of 40, so as myself and a healer try to go about resurrecting the fallen, when a patrol manages to catch us by surprise.. And child me decides to run, aggro'ing more mobs, then running back and giving the already hard pressed survivors more to worry about.
Safe to say that my uncle never let me tag along again.
He did keep on powerlevelling my characters though, mostly to dual-box them for additional buff-bots/rezz-bots, I didn't mind much, but I think that the only character I got to level 50 on my own was my Firbolg Bard.
Also played a lot of WAR when it first came out, might've played for about a year.. Unfortunately I leaned more towards the forces of Destruction, whereas all of my friends were Order-types - so most of my time was spent playing a High Elf Shadow Hunter, although I much preferred playing my Chaos Marauder.
The only real story I have from any of the two was when an uncle and his guild were so kind as to drag my unexperienced ass into Darkness Falls.
I was a Shroom shaman, so I was just there as a buff-bot and back-up healer - but I don't think I'd ever been so stressed before that point.. Demons coming out of nowhere constantly - and we managed to run into two parties of unfortunate Albionians who hadn't gotten out yet, by the time we took over.
I remember the Albionians more than I remember the trek through the Demon hordes, if only because the Albionians attempted to kill me.
We managed to kill both Albionian parties, or at least most of them.. With about 8 survivors out of a horde of 40, so as myself and a healer try to go about resurrecting the fallen, when a patrol manages to catch us by surprise.. And child me decides to run, aggro'ing more mobs, then running back and giving the already hard pressed survivors more to worry about.
Safe to say that my uncle never let me tag along again.
He did keep on powerlevelling my characters though, mostly to dual-box them for additional buff-bots/rezz-bots, I didn't mind much, but I think that the only character I got to level 50 on my own was my Firbolg Bard.
I remember buying Warhammer Online close to launch (being a huge 40k/Fantasy fan). My parents were throwing a party in the house that night for something or other and my friend came over so we could experience Warhammer Online together. Spent 2 hours trying to install it from the CDs :( Had massive issues with it that I've never experience since with a CD install. Had to completely disable my AV to get it working. 4 hours later after patches and I was in! We were blown away. It looked sooooo good! The graphics blew me away. I really enjoyed it for a couple of months but ultimately got pulled back to WoW because all my friends were on it.
Thanks a lot for your work on these games, two of my personal favourite MMOs. DaoC and Warhammer were fantastic MMOs. Warhammer especially, holds a special spot in my heart for the classes, settings and castle sieges.
Thanks OP. I had a lot of fun with Warhammer Online. Shame it never quite took off. The public quests were a great idea. I've still got a sealed copy of the PC Version. It's nothing but epitaph for an old cancelled game.
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I appreciate the kind words and I know all of the other DEVs would as well. I'm glad we were able to put smiles on faces :)
I'll have to post a bunch of my old developer schwag pics :)