Jalopnik: When Are We Going to Address How Paul Walker Had Relationships With Underage Girls?

brawndolicious said:

You just said that you think it's "icky". Maybe you didn't mean it. Maybe you just said it to slide in some pedantic BS to defend how you really feel. I don't know, but that's exactly how it looks.

I would have as much problem with a son dating somebody twice their age as a daughter doing that. If you're interested in learning a bit about the rational reasons people have for disliking middle aged men dating girls in their late teens, there's actually quite a lot of discussion about teenage mental development ever since this thread slid into the hell hole of pedo vs ephebo defending.

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We're not even talking late teens here, we're talking 16, or as a few banned posters at the start of the topic were hinting at 14/15.

Here's an article or two on teens and sex education/parenting that some in here should really be reading if they plan on having kids

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/how-parent-teen/201512/tackling-the-tough-topics

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/how-parent-teen/201512/teen-love-dating-in-today-s-new-world

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/how-parent-teen/201602/teens-and-sex

Also note

Having sex as a teenager is a normal part of human development. According to a report from the Guttmacher Institute, the average age of first intercourse is around 17 years old, with approximately 70% of teenagers having had sex by age 19. Despite salacious media reports, today's teenagers are not universally having sex at a very young age. In fact, only about 13% of teens have had sex before they turned 15 years old. This is down from about 20% in 1995.

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/.../yes-your-teenager-is-having-sex-it-s-not-bad

We know these stats, hence why we have an age of consent in place that would not [unjustly] criminalize teens at the height of them beginning to experiment in high school.

Teenagers having sex with those under the age of consent can obviously still be arrested/prosecuted.

We also know the generic dating stats, of which not all dating means having sex (try and convince me a 35 year old is just dating a 16 year old with no sex though)

To help you put things in perspective (i.e., is the age at which my teen begins dating normal?), on average here in the U.S. teens begin dating around the age of thirteen, and by the age of sixteen more than 90 percent of teens have had at least one date.5 And finally, the average duration of romantic relationships in high school is about six months. Some of you will read this and think, "Dating? My baby? At twelve?" That thought will quickly be followed by a sense of dread that feels like someone unexpectedly delivered a hard, swift kick right to your gut. But let's think about this: when we contemplate teens dating at twelve, or perhaps even fourteen years of age, what we must realistically consider is what dating means at that age. What are they really doing?

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Most often, dating during early adolescence involves exchanging contact information (i.e., giving cell phone numbers for texting, becoming friends or followers on social networking sites); engaging in harmless communication via text and SMSs; seeing each other at school; and maybe even holding hands as they walk through the halls, displaying their "couplehood" so that peer onlookers can eat their hearts out with envy. It's a social status thing. By the age of fifteen or sixteen, teens move toward qualitatively different and more meaningful romantic relationships; certainly, by the time they are seventeen or eighteen, they begin to think about their romantic relationships in a much deeper, more mature, and long-term way, with significant growth in both emotional and physical interests and commitment. These older adolescents tend to form more adult-like versions of romantic love and attachment, and stay in relationships that last over a year, on average. This is, whether we like it or not, when things get real.

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/how-parent-teen/201512/teen-love-dating-in-today-s-new-world

But what is the core expectation of most parents when their teens are in school? They're dating other teens. People in their class or maybe a year above/below within reason. Not middle-aged men.

So maybe some of you should not be becoming parents if you can't see why most other parents would not be all that laid back about 35-40 year olds picking up their teenage daughter from school. It's got nothing to do with restricting their autonomy given most well-educated parents know all of the advice above and know dating will often start in high school.

Audioboxer said:

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Lmao

Labor said:

No middle aged man is interested in a teenager for a healthy relationship and your analogy is terrible

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Labor said:

it's realizing that a teenager has nothing to offer a middle aged man in terms of a relationship other than sex and that it's not healthy. I doubt these motherfuckers bond over common interests seeing as how the girls didn't exist when these dudes were thinking about which colleges to apply to.

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I don't think that's necessarily true that teenagers have nothing to offer other than sex. Emmanuel Macron was 15 when he started dating his 40-year-old teacher and fast forward 25 years, they're still together and now president and first lady. I can't imagine Emmanuel Macron being quite this good at sex.

Labor said:

Man, shut the fuck up.

It's not ageism, it's realizing that a teenager has nothing to offer a middle aged man in terms of a relationship other than sex and that it's not healthy. I doubt these motherfuckers bond over common interests seeing as how the girls didn't exist when these dudes were thinking about which colleges to apply to.

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This is the best post in the whole thread. Shun and shame all the people that take advantage of young people with their status and power.

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zoukka said:

What he did was fucked up and illegal, but not really pedophilia unless I missed some additional information about him.

Pedophilia, or paedophilia, is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2]Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.

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oh boy

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It's not that complicated (just fucked up), if you don't interact with women or any given group of humans, you become desensitized and lack empathy towards that group. This guy probably has no female friends.

Skelepuzzle said:

Already hit the "not really a pedo!" phase of the thread, huh.

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Some people are just disgusting apologists downplaying one of the worst things you can do to a minor.