Vergeben has mentioned Isabelle and a new Pokemon, loz18 says Skull Kid is in.
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Vergeben has mentioned Isabelle and a new Pokemon, loz18 says Skull Kid is in.
literally all the speculation of Skull Kid started because of loz18, and this was before we saw the Moon assist trophy without Skull Kid too.
So if he is wrong, most people speculating Skull Kid may be wrong too unless the other Sakurai hints are legit.
I think Rhythm Heaven (not necessarily Chorus Kids) is due to get a character, and thus the most likely.
Otherwise, I'd give it to Elma or Geno.
To Smash's credit, there really aren't many missing characters left that feel integral to their series. Toad is probably the biggest omission since he appears in nearly every Mario game. I can see Waluigi, Dixie, Bandana Dee, and Peppy and Slippy also bring similarly important to their series.
i think i've become a monster
a horrible, fluid-filled monster
it's safe to say that even if nothing new is added to the game from here on, It would still be many people's personal best Smash game.
here is hoping the dev team is taking good enough care of themselves,
I personally hope we really do get that new story/adventure mode that the menu seems to be hinting at, leaks/image scrubbing ignored, the single player content was always on the main menu next to smash, and Smash 4's solo content was a green menu option. Can't wait for the next direct between now and December.
In terms of unnanounced or non-hinted features, we probably wont get it by now but custom stages were very fun.
As for characters, I still hope for Geno and Wonder Red. Isaac from golden sun is still a desire, despite how many sword users there are. Shadow as an echo feels like an obvious pick, Ms.Packman would be cute, and Zack for Cloud and Jeanne for Bayo, the echo list goes on.
Honestly, if they break the seal on video game origin characters and throw goku in, i would love seeing Kid Goku in there, would be a refreshing take, and i loved the Dragon ball advanced adventure.
here is hoping the dev team is taking good enough care of themselves,
I personally hope we really do get that new story/adventure mode that the menu seems to be hinting at, leaks/image scrubbing ignored, the single player content was always on the main menu next to smash, and Smash 4's solo content was a green menu option. Can't wait for the next direct between now and December.
In terms of unnanounced or non-hinted features, we probably wont get it by now but custom stages were very fun.
As for characters, I still hope for Geno and Wonder Red. Isaac from golden sun is still a desire, despite how many sword users there are. Shadow as an echo feels like an obvious pick, Ms.Packman would be cute, and Zack for Cloud and Jeanne for Bayo, the echo list goes on.
Honestly, if they break the seal on video game origin characters and throw goku in, i would love seeing Kid Goku in there, would be a refreshing take, and i loved the Dragon ball advanced adventure.
Yeah, the future games rational doesn't seem to hold imo. Unless Dark Samus and Chrom are supposed to represent FE:Three Houses and MP4? That seems unlikely though...
It makes more sense that they took the ballot results as the main focus.
Because it's harder to make all-new trophies as the average polycount increases. And the fully-unique models they do make for trophies are now assist trophies, having a role in the actual gameplay. Someone like Sable Prince would have been a cool trophy in Melee, but even cooler now that he can do things during a match.
...fuck it, I choose to believe.
Kinda cool how there's no "one" designated place for filming
Yep, and two of the F-zero racers are also black like Michael Chain and the woman who I forgot her name.
I always liked the idea of Little Mac's trainer being an echo, Doc Louis...but he's still in Little Mac's victory screens so I guess not.
Sounds more like a new DKC with K. Rool and the Kremlings. I wonder if they would keep the multiple partners mechanic from Tropical Freeze.
I thought the rope swing was pretty strange in the set. And also there's a tropical plant hanging out in the background.
Good point, and considering this game has about 1000 assist trophies I shouldn't be complaining. Haha
I think echos wouldn't be considered for representing future games given their nature as easy to make characters.
But I do agree that they just seem to be picking choices off of the ballot for the most part.
I do think there is something interesting to the furniture they choose in the directs. Guess we'll know for sure if the next reveal is Skull Kid.
kinda glad that we haven't heard from verge lately and that folks are becoming distrustful of loz. I mean my soul is already tainted and I'm gonna be soaking up those leaks regardless, but I love being in the dark for speculation and direct presentations
loz18 is kinda meh. There's too much attention seeking behaviour.
Vergeben at least just gives the information without theatrics. It feels like he gives factual information from actual sources (whether or not the information is correct).
Vergeben at least just gives the information without theatrics. It feels like he gives factual information from actual sources (whether or not the information is correct).
Or even Tingle, who had its own two games.
If Bandana Dee is Ultimate, ok but I think a TON of characters should be in before him.
My three dream characters, in order of importance:
1) Banjo
2) Mary O
3) Twintelle
Nah, Dixie is above them due to starring in her own game. Peppy/Slippy are clearly support characters and while Captain Toad is now the most likely Mario rep next time, he was passed over.
Anyone who plays Donkey Kong knows Dixie is important to the franchise, she deserves to be in Smash even if she's just an echo
If this is true, this paragraph is interesting:
And it's interesting not just because of what it says (that you can guess newcomers looking at upcoming games), but because the opposite would also be true (you can guess upcoming games from newcomers). Ridley would be tied to Metroid 4, so perhaps K. Rool hints at a new DKC game with him as an antagonists? Perhaps a new Castlevania for the Switch?
Or am I reaching here? I'm reaching, am I not? :D
still wont believe it
but if the next announcement is skull kid then im convinced i guess
My thoughts exactly. People keep talking about him like he's some special character but really he's a Goomba with a bandana.
As far as I'm concerned I can't think of a scenario where you're privy to Simon's inclusion but not Richter.
Yeah I really hate this trend. I used to pick Mother 2 front the Sound Test and spend a good afternoon looking at all my trophies in Melee. They've become so boring since then.
Yeah I really hate this trend. I used to pick Mother 2 front the Sound Test and spend a good afternoon looking at all my trophies in Melee. They've become so boring since then.
Richter has the same strut, jump and attack animations as Simon. The point is, there's no need to make Simon first to make Richter, there is reason to make Richter first to make Simon
And I suspect Simon borrows more moves than you can count on one hand: slide, dash, dash with spinning whip, tackle, uppercut, grand cross, down kick?, maybe more?. Regardless, there's more source material for Richter than for Simon, an Richter sprites already do everything Simon sprites due. Richter sprites are a superset of Simon sprites, hence the reason one might start by making Richter
Richter isn't using different subs because they are echos, I wouldn't expect them to.
Is Smash Richter taking anything from other Belmonts? Is Simon?
This paragraph is basically what I'm saying, most of what Simon is doing is taken from Richter, hence, why not make Richter. I suspect the only reason Richter is even in the game as an echo is because it made sense to model the animations using him first. Richter isn't that popular. Sakurai made a point to mention that Simon's moves in smash are based on Richter. They could've given Simon the generic CV kick, but they didn't. They made Richter and called him Simon
Which is fine. But Ness's animations aren't sourced from the other characters (as far as I'm aware). All I'm saying is that as an animator, when translating these moves to 3D, the sensible way to do it would be to start with a model that looks like Richter so you can line the source material up (considering Richter will be playable anyway)
And I'm not saying they made Richter fist, just pointing out that it's likely. The reality is likely that they worked on both simultaneously, Richter simply may have been completed first. I would just assume those specific moves were first animated with Richter. We have a leak that guessed Richter when noone else did. The leak is based on demo code which would be incomplete. The leak only shows Richter. Just pointing out it's very possible that a specific version of the demo would only have Richter
If it ends up the leak is fake, no big deal. But Simon's absence isn't enough to discredit it. Even if Simon was first, they may still have been tweaking his model
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Dixie essentially starred in two of the three original trilogy. Dk himself only was in one.
That is absolutely not going to happen lol. That would probably not even happen as DLC.
Peppy and Slippy I'm kind of iffy on, especially Peppy, who always was more the mentor role. Slippy at least had that spin-off. But neither would make a lot of sense as Echoes of the Star Fox characters due the vastly different body shapes, and even less sense as unique additions. I'd be fine if Star Fox stuck with just Fox, Falco and Wolf, though. We have the main protag, the main supporting character, and the main rival. We don't really need the smart supporting character and the mentor supporting character on top of that (or the love interest for that matter...).
Otherwise, I agree with you.
Let's play a game, which is the most boring design and has the least personality out of these Kirby "characters":
(Don't be sad, you know it to be true)
Eh, I'd put Bandanna Dee over the snowman, the plug, and the ice lizard...thing.
It's funny how so many people forget DK is only playable in 1 of the 3 games. I remember when DK64 came out they made a big deal of DK being playable again because he hadn't been playable since DKC1. Even the DK rap, "He's finally back, you know him well" was written like that for that reason.
I'm interested in if they do decide to give him a name, how would they justify us not knowing for so long.
Bandana Dee: You know, everyone just calls me ''Bandana Dee" but my real name is "_____". But... the King has a hard time remembering that, in fact he has a hard time remembering all the names of the Waddle Dee, so I just go by Bandana Dee.
Ah, I see. Isabelle would be a Villager echo, I guess? Or did he have no specific info on that?
(Slippy starred in his own game too, not that he was particularly mobile during it.)
That's why I'm excited about the next general direct. Pretty sure nintendo said they have a few more things to announce this year after e3, so if that paragraph has any validity to it it'll fun to connect the dots
Yeah that is true. Just thinking of Nintendo though, you have either minor characters or I guess there's some character creators.
Well, if I have to tan on the island all day every day to have brown skin in the next Animal Crossing, I'm gonna be pissed.
Loz believs Vergeben becomes less credible by the day and is just taking guesses but had some legit info. The battle of the two leakers lol.
And then we'll all be scrutinising ever bit of furniture in that direct to ridiculous levels
"HMMM? look at that window, the last one in the line, the west one, it's looking out over a cape....
LAST WINDOW SECRET OF CAPE WEST, KYLE HYDE CONFIRMED!"
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