I have no clue, and that's part of my issues with them.
But they did not market their stuff, that's part of the issue. All this video comes off as hypocritical nonesense (and it was obvious to everyone including Bethesda that it'll be just that when that video was released).
I'm saying they should've actually marketed Dishonored 2 and Prey and not put out this nonesense video to give people false hopes.So you're saying... They shouldn't have made a marketing campaign for their single player games but instead marketed their single player games?
That video was them marketing their stuff. They did market their stuff (have we forgotten the whole "Fuck Nazis" marketing for Wolf2?).
I bought Wolfenstein 2 and Dishonored 2 day one but unfortunately, that's not enough. It's pretty devastating at this point, once I finally got my first job and be able to pay for games that I love, all those singleplayer games started to bomb hard. The last singleplayer-only game that I bought day one and it didn't bomb was Doom, but it was 2 years ago...
It's slowly drifting away from single player, that's the problem. The hypocrisy of this vid is the problem.
This sounds like my worst gaming nightmare.
Just make all MP/Co-op stuff optional.
Ah yes. They gave people false hope because none of their upcoming games will feature single player. I must have had a dream that Rage 2, Doom Eternal, Starfield, and ES6 exist. Probably also the new Wolfenstein existed and were upcoming games.
How is the video hypocrisy? They marketed their single player games. Those single player games they marketed were what they were selling. There is no hypocrisy involved here. This kind of projection of emotion at a corporation is actually baffling.
Dunno about Prey, but Bethesda advertised the heck out of Dishonored 2. It was everywhere, even in the weeks leading up to its release. The market didn't respond in kind.
And that's part of the problem. I don't blame them for that. I'm blaming them for the video (and other things that are not related to the thread)
Who said that? I'm saying it's no longer single player only and slowly drifting away from that with online focus being a large part of the games (not single player, as the video states)
not sure I understood the last part of the post but yeah, it is really hypocritical of them to put out this vid and then put a large emphasis on online in all of their games.
How is it petty? It's a marketing campaign. Was "Genesis does what Nintendon't" petty? Was "#4ThePlayers" petty?
...and then ditching those single player only games for a lot of online elements.
Sorry, but are you saying that single-player games that feature online components on the side no longer qualify as single player games?
So was Sony's marketing hypocritical earlier this gen, given their increasingly anti-player moves ever since?
Yeah, I actually thought it was overexposed
They share the blame, their awful review policy going into effect just as these games were hitting certainly didn't help things.
Well I'm not speaking for all of ERA (I think I'm the only one here who wrote that), but I bought the games, and I would've been disappointed if that was the direction they were going, but won't be blaming them (because it seems I was wrong about the marketing aspect).
I'm saying it's not the same thing and it's showing us a trend which will only get bigger in the future (in the online elements regard) and as Nirolak posted on DOOM, it's getting a huge emphasis.
No, in this case you should blame the costumers who do.not buy these games and purchase the Destinys, VODs, Battlefields and other GAAS instead.
I know that's how it works, it's also petty as fuck and I can complain about it. And yeah, to point out "#4ThePlayers" and "Fuck Sony" on a "Epic account being locked to PS4 forever" thread is totally legit.
If they would've made numbers they could've released this video and be proud. They didn't and Bethesda knew far in advance which direction they are going, and still released it.
Unless Bethesda completely abandons single player in the future, then they didn't lie in their video or were hypocritical at all. GTAV is not less of a single player game than GTA IV just because it's online got bigger. Doom 2016 is still a single-player game despite its large focus on online and snap map. Metal Gear V is still a single-player game dispite MGO3 and Base Invasions being large parts of the game. I don't see DOOM Eternal or any of their upcoming single-player games being any different to those.
My ass.
I think it really comes up as hypocritical to do this video and then incorperate tons of online elements in a big way to every single output (except TES 6 and Starfield which are BGS games and honestly we still don't 100% know for sure if they includ online elements in a big way or not). Sure it's not a straight up lie but they shouldn't put this video out, at least not when they did.
