Well, not exactly, he didn't outright say that there wouldn't be any trophies, rather he asked the person where he heard that there would be trophies.
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate DT4 | News, Site Updates, and Speculation | Sakurai's Fountain of Dreams
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Just imagine Skull Kid's FS starting with this same Zelda-styled textbox before the mask detaches from him and goes full Majora's Wrath <3
About the game not having trophies:
As I said, it could be something related to Spirits mode. Instead of having boring, static trophies since Melee era, they could've upgraded this feature to have hologram-like MOVING trophies instead, that has some sort of looping idle animation or some extra animation triggered by button presses, like the Pokedex in recent Pokemon games.
Maybe it could be linked to some sort of side game like Kid Icarus Uprising had thatAR Card Battle gimmick.
I'm happy about the Classic Mode myself, it is actually more like what its name implies, the Smash 4 Classic Mode on Wii U was nothing like Classic Mode.
The problem is, most of the single-player modes in Smash Wii U are awful, lol. With all due respect you're probably the only guy I've seen who thinks that the new Classic Mode we're getting is apparantly a step down from the much maligned Wii U incarnation.
The new Classic Mode and boss fights we've seen are already better than the majority of Smash 4's singleplayer offerings.
Looking at this poll of 6,500 (afaik, the most comprehensive Smash poll in existence; https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/89n2gq/official_rsmashbros_smash_switch_character/):
It is also worth noting that the void between BK, Isaac and the next most-likely characters is humongous.
- Waluigi (Super Mario)
- Shovel Knight (Shovel Knight)
- Banjo & Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie)
- King K. Rool (Donkey Kong Country)
- Crash Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot)
- Isaac (Golden Sun)
- Bandana Dee (Kirby)
- Rex (Xenoblade Chronicles)
- Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
- Decidueye (Pokémon)
It is also worth noting that the void between BK, Isaac and the next most-likely characters is humongous.
No way in hell they're rigging, skinning, and animating 700+ trophies.
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There are challenge boards where we can just clear everything. It has been in Smash Bros ever since Melee (collecting all trophies would be considered as clear all challenges) but Brawl is the game they started to include the challenge board.
They could make it work if the "trophies" are models that'll already be in the game. If the Spirits mode is like Subspace Emissary, there'll likely be plenty of enemies to pick from, not to mention background characters that already have animations in other scenes (the Old Man from BotW, most Pokémon) and Assist Trophies. It'd be disappointing to lose unique trophies but Wii U and 3DS were already mostly model rips anyway. They could at least match Melee's count with what's already in the game.
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Some leaker mentioned "Everyone's here!" didn't refer only to fighters...
What I mean is, if 80%~90% of the game trophies are ported from Smash4, then they could use the time spent modelling and texturing them instead for rigging and animating...
I just really value replayabilty. I wouldn't mind the new Classic mode if it was a lot more random. The fact that every time you play with say Mario you face the exact same route of opponents destroys the replayability.
I don't 100% believe him but he has been correct thus far.
Twintelle would be a better Smash character than Springman though: she has actual arms.
Springman only has "ARMS".
The most "likely" character isn't an exclusive console from another hardware owner.
Post direct conversation really became madness.
Post direct conversation really became madness.
There's going top be 70+ characters so I don't think that really matters.
By the time you play it with every character and return to Mario you will have forgotten who you faced with him.
It doesn't matter as much if you like playing with all the characters but if you only have a handful of chars you enjoy using it's a huge deal I think.
That can't be true, Reddit said so! And Phil's such a nice guy! I can tell from his Twitter account!
This gets more and more outdated.
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There are currently nine characters in this pic who are playable.
Let's make it an even ten with Wonder-Red.
Classic Mode is designed to get you to play characters you aren't used to using. You're supposed to try a bunch of different characters in Smash, single player isn't designed to only be played by a handful of characters.
It is enough to make me do it, and I can't comprehend what would the absence of trophies change about it.
He can just as easily hold items with those if that is what you're alluding to.
Boxing gloves shouldn't be an issue either considering Mac.
Or maybe he was full of it since the beginning.
No trophies would be freaking stupid. Especially with how much their emphasizing the Ultimate aspect.
There would be no point in doing it for most players
Why am I going to bother playing through All Star with Villager, whose moveset I hate and find unfun?
Love seeing how many people apparently want Isaac in this, nice to see that Ray got a bit of love even though he's much farther down the list.
I just don't see Bandana Dee being announced at this point, especially after the characters announced in the last Direct. He's not in the same league in terms of big surprises. Apart from (apparently Japan) and a really small minority, the overall reaction would be ".....okay?"
Phil Spencer once made a tweet where he said "i like competition" and now Satya Nadella opened his eyes and is giving money to Apple!
Sakurai doesn't care about this. He doesn't pick characters thinking "who will get the biggest internet reaction???"
Shulk was the last trailer for Smash 3DS.
The idea that a Kirby character, and one that tops nearly every single Japanese newcomer want list, would appeal to a "small minority" is ridiculous
Making it random everytime makes it worse.
It's just the same random mess for every character.
Tailoring it for each character makes it more unique and interesting.
We're looking at a minimum of 3 unique newcomers and 3 echoes (very conservative estimate). With DLC support for a couple of years, this game is going to have the most insane fighting roster we will ever see. No fighting game can match the variation and depth of each character here.
I'm not sure Sakurai (or anyone) will top this iteration in sheer quantity of content.
I'm not sure Sakurai (or anyone) will top this iteration in sheer quantity of content.
Nice comparison of the Paper Mario 3DS Stage of Smash Ultimate and a fake leak image posted way before Ultimates announcement.
Which do you like more?
Which do you like more?
I think the problem would be Nintendo not wanting to put them in and not Phil not allowing it.
Kinda curious where a lot of these came from, lot of awesome stuff I hadn't seen before!
This looks great especially
Yeah maybe. Both Geno and Skull Kid are possessed by powerful Spirits after all.
Which doesn't mean anything for a roster decided in 2015. It's good PR for him to say that considering that Nintendo has no reason to do that.
Also, he wouldn't reply to this if the character was in the game.
The official Paper Mario is nicer, but the fake had a cool idea sticking stickers around the stage
Phil is not the exclusive IP holder though. There's miles of legal to get through, on both sides.
Phil saying something on Twitter is totally noncommittal. He can be for whatever he wants without acknowledging the reality of getting the behemoth that signs his paychecks to agree to it.
Going to have to redo my shots to match these as they're a bit different but the results should be way better. Thanks! (Also thanks IntelliHeath for also nudging me in this direction)
Yeah I suppose that's a fair point.
Did you miss the part where I said "apart from Japan"?
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