Yes, but I'm not a lawyer, and I work a professional job.
Cool. I have to get under your desk to plug in a network cable that your professional ass carelessly kicked out... in a suit. Because that's professional. Got it.
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Is it cool to hate on business suits now?
- Thread starter Etrian Oddity
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i remember i used to work in the same tower as some financial company where everyone was always dressed in full suits. we'd share the elevators with them. one time i got in and was the sole dev in an elevator full of fully suited people.
i broke the silence and just remarked to them: "damn, i feel pretty underdressed."
one of the guys was like: "don't worry, we wish we could do that."
it is awesome and freeing to be able to dress however you want.
plus the higher paying companies like GOOG and NFLX don't really have dress codes either. places like SF and seattle are littered with kids in their mid-twenties making 200k who dress up like hobos everywhere they go. i'm only aware of one big tech company that's still "old world" in that engineers gotta dress up for work, and that's intel... and nobody below the age of 40 wants to work for intel.
It always has been man, because they are "working for the man," man.
Cant blame them though, gotta feed yoself and your fam.
This will be perpetual as long as life exists.
Someone answering to another, dark AF when you get to brass tacks, but tbh the people that own this world are the artists and the revolutionists. No one remembers who the CEO of GM is. And if you are, you are the few!
Cant blame them though, gotta feed yoself and your fam.
This will be perpetual as long as life exists.
Someone answering to another, dark AF when you get to brass tacks, but tbh the people that own this world are the artists and the revolutionists. No one remembers who the CEO of GM is. And if you are, you are the few!
A well fitting suit is lingerie for men. Even if you don't wear one to work, it's awesome for special occasions.
What. I literally do not understand anything you posted.
Working the man?
Artists and Revolutionaries own the world?
Brass tacks?
They're fine, if you feel good wearing one go ahead.
Personally I don't know how to look good in them. the ones I bought "off the shelf" didn't really fit and going to a tailor and having your shit measured and all sounds like some dumb How i met your mother type shit and also super expensive. So personally I avoid wearing one.
Personally I don't know how to look good in them. the ones I bought "off the shelf" didn't really fit and going to a tailor and having your shit measured and all sounds like some dumb How i met your mother type shit and also super expensive. So personally I avoid wearing one.
I find this to be subjective. But I guess I'm in the minority.
I've never liked suits, personally. I wear one if I have to but I find them uncomfortable, unnecessary, and expensive.
I use suits every day. I love them.
It allows me to look sharp, if they are tailored correctly to you, it feels like an extension of your persona. It allows you to easily coordinate your clothing every day, by combining shirts, belts, watches and your suit color.
Even in summer, it's easy, just wear no tie. It's what everyone does here in Portugal and some places in Spain as well. Winter time? Tie. Summer? No tie and unbutton up your shirt.
I love wearing my suit with no tie.
I wish I could wear them every day without looking like an asshole like Barney though.
It allows me to look sharp, if they are tailored correctly to you, it feels like an extension of your persona. It allows you to easily coordinate your clothing every day, by combining shirts, belts, watches and your suit color.
Even in summer, it's easy, just wear no tie. It's what everyone does here in Portugal and some places in Spain as well. Winter time? Tie. Summer? No tie and unbutton up your shirt.
I love wearing my suit with no tie.
I wish I could wear them every day without looking like an asshole like Barney though.
Yeah, zoukka's got it. I said before in this thread that my nicest suit was like $75. Add maybe $20 to that to get it tailored, and that's less than you'd spend on 2 newly released video games. It's like 10 take-out lunches at work; not a huge sacrifice. You really do not have to go to Neiman Marcus or something to get a good suit these days.
Not most of them, no. I have one friend with an okay gaming laptop and anyone who happens to have a gaming console tend to have outdated handmedowns like an Xbox360 they got as a gift.
I really can't imagine people not being able to make a $200 one time purchase, or not being able to save up for one over a few months. But maybe I'm wildly out of touch.
A majority of Americans cannot economically survive a $400 emergency expense without either going into debt or selling property. Let alone a $200 luxury expense.
So yes. You are wildly out of touch.
Sorry, not a majority. Only 40%
https://money.cnn.com/2018/05/22/pf/emergency-expenses-household-finances/index.html
It probably sounds worse than it is considering a lot of young adults don't save anything since they are first paying off their loans. And a suit is a planned expense, not emergency one so you include it in your financial plans.
Still I empathize since I had little to no savings before my first stable job. Selling "luxury" stuff was pretty common for me when I really needed money for more important things.
It's taking me a lot of effort not to read this as a clear and explicit condemnation of blue collar workers. I've got to wonder what kind of fucking world do the people who say this kind of thing live in, because it's some of the most naive, paradoxically provincial thinking i've seen in this forum.
I think the work dress culture is changing some. Where I work most everyone wears a suit or slacks,dress shirt, and tie. Its kind of tough because when meeting with clients on one hand some clients think that a suit means you know what you are doing, but for others it can be intimidating. I am all for dress pants, button up, and no tie. Its much more comfortable, but can still look professional and I feel more approachable.
Yeah I'm suprised this is a thing. I could understand not wanting to use a tie but wearing a nice suit is the best feeling.
Lol?
Of course i can. But i can understand giving in to the pressure of wanting to succeed in corporate life and wanting to be seen as more serious than you really are.
Suits can look really good imo. I have a nice one for special occasions where people feel it's so special that everybody has to dress up.. So not wanting to ruin their perfect funeral or wedding, i gave in. And i have to say, everybody thinks it looks really good on me. Took the effort of getting a real good one. Tailored and all. "hello ladies, mr Bond, James Bond". But it's often a sad display of people trying to make more of themselves than they really are. Dressed up apes.
Annnnyway: Wear whatever the fuck you like. But to think every adult male has to want to wear a suit is completely idiotic imo.
I've been an adult for quite a while, and I have no interest in wearing a suit. Save the instances where it gets my partner all hot and bothered. That's a pretty good incentive.
But for working, on a daily basis? Fuck that shit.
You sound like you're about to post that "94% of poor people have refrigerators" image from Fox News.
A lot of people can't afford suits. Simple as that. Poverty is a thing that actually exists.
It's the trend against corporatism, just like any rejection of "the man" before it. Suits will come and go. They've been back in style in the last 10 years, but now there are a lot of deviations that add style and flare to them. The days of walking down Wall Street and seeing every male wearing a variation of the same suit are over.
Nothing wrong with suits. I wear whatever I want now, but I kind of liked wearing a suit when I used to at my first job. It was easy... never had to worry about what I was wearing to work. It'd just be a decision on the shirt and the tie, some sort of white/blue/blush/salmon shirt, some sort of standard tie... the end, the rest of the outfit was picked out for me.
Suits are also an equalizer at jobs that require them. Everybody is wearing a suit, from the highest earning executive, to the newest hire. Sure, there are plenty of degrees between quality, cut, and price of course, but by and large, it masks a lot of that difference. Now, some people might not like that, they might want an executive to show his/her status or they might think that it hides originality, which sure, it does both of that. Suits also help a lot of junior (and senior) people who don't know how to dress simply get a lot of basic style for free. Sure, you can poorly wear a suit or have the wrong combination or look like a slob, but the person who looks like a slob in a suit probably looks a hell of a lot worse in their other clothes too, and the suit can help mask that general slobbiness.
I still like how I look in suits, I have more confidence, clean up, stand differently, it masks the parts of my body that I'm less confident of (ponch), while highlighting my shoulders, chest, etc. The suit will come and go, always will, nothing wrong with it over any other kinds of clothes.
Also, I'd strongly recommend that people here donate their old suits. Good Will, Savers, Salvation Army is one option, but there's also groups that specialize in tightening up and cleaning up suits for low-income people for interviews. I give mine to a church organization in my city that does this for near-homeless/sheltered/addicted people. It's a great thing to do. Someone can be really down on their luck, and they get fitted into a suit and it totally changes their outlook and demeanor.
Also, suits don't have to be expensive. I buy almost all of my suits these days off the rack at Nordstrom Rack, and you get really good suits for 50-80% off. I only wear suits a few times a year now, and so I've got one good bespoke suit, and then my others are off the rack.
Nothing wrong with suits. I wear whatever I want now, but I kind of liked wearing a suit when I used to at my first job. It was easy... never had to worry about what I was wearing to work. It'd just be a decision on the shirt and the tie, some sort of white/blue/blush/salmon shirt, some sort of standard tie... the end, the rest of the outfit was picked out for me.
Suits are also an equalizer at jobs that require them. Everybody is wearing a suit, from the highest earning executive, to the newest hire. Sure, there are plenty of degrees between quality, cut, and price of course, but by and large, it masks a lot of that difference. Now, some people might not like that, they might want an executive to show his/her status or they might think that it hides originality, which sure, it does both of that. Suits also help a lot of junior (and senior) people who don't know how to dress simply get a lot of basic style for free. Sure, you can poorly wear a suit or have the wrong combination or look like a slob, but the person who looks like a slob in a suit probably looks a hell of a lot worse in their other clothes too, and the suit can help mask that general slobbiness.
I still like how I look in suits, I have more confidence, clean up, stand differently, it masks the parts of my body that I'm less confident of (ponch), while highlighting my shoulders, chest, etc. The suit will come and go, always will, nothing wrong with it over any other kinds of clothes.
Also, I'd strongly recommend that people here donate their old suits. Good Will, Savers, Salvation Army is one option, but there's also groups that specialize in tightening up and cleaning up suits for low-income people for interviews. I give mine to a church organization in my city that does this for near-homeless/sheltered/addicted people. It's a great thing to do. Someone can be really down on their luck, and they get fitted into a suit and it totally changes their outlook and demeanor.
Also, suits don't have to be expensive. I buy almost all of my suits these days off the rack at Nordstrom Rack, and you get really good suits for 50-80% off. I only wear suits a few times a year now, and so I've got one good bespoke suit, and then my others are off the rack.
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I'm 35, only wore a suit to job interviews and I hate them. So yes, I can imagine not wanting to wear a suit. Thankfully, I have always had job where I don't have to!
Being on time, not speaking in profanity lading slang, eating with proper utensils...these are condemnations of blue collar workers?
I think perhaps your opinion on the individuals that work such professions are too low.
I have 3 suits, one for funerals, and two for weddings. Every one looks better in nice clothes, even the awkward people trying to revolt against them.
What industry is that? Because there is a lot of dressing up in most industries. Especially in the creative branch. Not suits but still stuff that says "hey look, i'm creative"....
i don't like dressing up. I don't like that they're what you're "supposed" to wear to look nice. depending on the person, they just look like full body diapers to me
they're not, this forum is just full of lunatics
they're not, this forum is just full of lunatics
Same here. But i'm still always kinda sceptical bcause so many people really label themselves a lot while saying they want to be considered unique. There is this photographer who made photos of subcultures and placed the photos of people of the same subculture into collages (http://www.exactitudes.com/). All these people still dressed according to certain unspoken fashion guidelines that belonged to that sub-culture. People want to belong as much as they want to be an individual, it seems.