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Bethesda May Not Release 'The Elder Scrolls: Legends' On Systems That Don't Allow Crossplay
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They do say that. If you're just reading the thread title, that's a summary of the interview. A headline. The article says...
Now that I think about it, maybe that could have been the starting point for MS to change their minds.
I also bought this game up, was told it's apples to oranges in a debate about devs, publishers taking a stand.
I wonder if it's apples to oranges now...
Yeah, Fortnite 2 will be one to watch. Can't wait.
There's also this:
www.vg247.com/2016/09/09/fallout-4-mod-support-nixed-because-sony-wont-approve-user-mods-the-way-they-should-work/amp/
but like was mentioned mod support wasn't as great as it could be, but mods was still released for PS4.
Because at the end off the day....money talks....
Bethesda barely ever needed a reason to drop Sony. I've never seen a developer be more partial towards a console brand/company than Bethesda is with Xbox/MS.
Not that it bothers me. It's just what I've noticed.
Not that it bothers me. It's just what I've noticed.
How does it makes sense business wise if you don't get a version of the game because of said policies? This sounds more personal than business. Yes for now they can leverage the 3rd party studios to adhere to their policies because of the large install base but mobile and PC also have large install bases for certain titles and this is one of them, same with Minecraft. Fallout 76 is one they won't use because that game will sell very well on the PS4 but when next generation comes Sony had better be nicer or there may be a real backlash that will hurt them financially.
Good on them. Developers shouldn't have to jump through hoops and create per-platform server infrastructures just cause the boys don't wanna play together. On top of that, it's just shit for players. Let me access my data wherever I am. I paid for the game, I wanna access my profile and keep playing.
I'm guessing for a card game it just didn't make sense to Bethesda to create a whole unique server layer just for PS4 players. I hope this stuff will happen more often with bigger titles so that Sony will finally allow cross-platform play. It's 2018, time to break down those walls.
I'm guessing for a card game it just didn't make sense to Bethesda to create a whole unique server layer just for PS4 players. I hope this stuff will happen more often with bigger titles so that Sony will finally allow cross-platform play. It's 2018, time to break down those walls.
unfortunately people here feel the need to be snarky because they're taking this stance as a personal attack since it's against their "team." It's not a hot take to say that many of the posters care deeply about the branding on their hunk of plastic.
I hope not. Would be awesome to see. You better hope it's a pipe dream
Oh no PS4 might miss out on Bethesda's mediocre version of Hearthstone that is barely relevant. It needs all the userbase it can get at this point.
Or maybe people are looking at it for what it is: an empty threat. Unless they put up an actual game as a threat, nobody is going to care about a card game being withheld.
Sure. Post more messages showing how much you don't care.
Anyway, card game or not, they should receive nothing but support from players and game enthusiasts.
How many of those players wouldn't have access to a smart phone, pc (of even low specs) or other console if they wanted to play? Probably a very small number. If it's between that or having to completely undermine your own ecosystem goal of complete cross progression, it doesn't seem like a big deal to skip ps4
No, no it doesn't matter. They still have the mobile base and the rest of the consoles. They can totally cut out the largest portion of this generation's console sales with no backlash!
Very true, but people are not being nice to everybody favourite company Sony so the need to be defensive is clear.
That is also just a dumb argument for this game. That number doesn't mean much to them when their target is mobile and PC. All 80 million of those PS4 users probably have access to one of those platforms. The console is just another option to play on, but bethesda's core philiosophy with this game is that they want your account to carry over no matter where you play. That isn't possible on Sony's platform due to their anti-consumer and convoluted stance on cross play. So Bethesda doesn't want to compromise that vision to launch the game on a console that won't matter much anyways. They are certainly leaving some money on the table by doing this, but it's not nearly as much as you or anyone else making this point seem to think.
It's very funny to see the two main arguements against Bethesda here are "the user base is so big" and also "it's just a dumb card game no one cares." So it's a big user base but no one cares? Bethesda seems to agree with that and as a result they just won't bother with a PS4 port.
The real takeaway here should be "hey Sony maybe change your dumb, anti-consumer stance on crossplay it benefits none of us"
Good way of explaining things but you will continue to see the same people trying to defend Sony's policies one way or another.
It's interesting you have the perspective of the backlash being aimed at Bethedsa rather than at Sony for their policies causing this. Not really Bethesda's fault that Sony won't allow cross progression for a game that is built around cross progression.
As expected, this thread is a mind circus. Nothing but mental gymnastics and clown music.
And the same handful of posters doing their best to shit up conversation and muddy the waters, as usual. I love seeing the same avatars in every cross-play thread (with a Spider-Man twist!), people thinking they're slick when they're not. I see you, I'm not the only one, because you're painfully transparent and have been as long as you've been members here.
And the same handful of posters doing their best to shit up conversation and muddy the waters, as usual. I love seeing the same avatars in every cross-play thread (with a Spider-Man twist!), people thinking they're slick when they're not. I see you, I'm not the only one, because you're painfully transparent and have been as long as you've been members here.
You could go ahead read the OP before posting a response to it, and then, you would know what's being talked about. Isn't it crazy how that works?
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Did you read the OP/article? The game is also coming to Xbox/Switch.
They're not trying 'to make a serious point about crossplay'. They're trying to release a video game that includes full crossplay/cross progression and if a platform can't support that then it won't come out on it. There's only one that doesn't support that so I guess PS4 only players who want to play it will have to play it on their phone or on another platform. It's releasing everywhere else so shouldn't be hard to find somewhere to play it.
You don't think there's a bunch of overlap between the remaining platforms and PS4? Because there absolutely is, particularly with mobile and PC.
Please do it, Bethesda. Sony needs to rethink this policy and they won't do it until it hurts them financially. If enough games skip the PS because of this, there's a (small) chance they'll turn around.
Well. They said that they prefer having it crossplay across platforms, so i said ps4 also fulfils that criterion since sony enable crossplay on pc too at least for now like ff14 does. Am i wrong? But i dont think sony want to go crossplay across all consoles for now, i think this will be their gimmick for next generation
So we can assume all Bethesda games with a MP mode to skip PS4? If they want the best version possible no?
If you're going to do that with one game why not another? Crossplay is crossplay. Bethesda was very vocal about Fallout 76 not having it because of "Sony's stance." Yet they didn't seem to not want to release the game there.
It's likely that cross-play and cross-platform progression are viewed by Bethesda as being important elements of their vision for Legends, moreso than for 76. Perhaps Bethesda views that functionality as being more vital for the kind of product they intend Legends to be.
Did you read the OP? This is specifically about their card game which is built around cross progression.
Or they know the majority of the audience for a CCG is on PC/mobile and don't really have the balls to make a fuss with a game like the new Fallout.
Why is a card game the only genre where cross progression is important?
well The Elder Scrolls: Legends is a current gen game so too bad.
It's not the only genre where it's important but, as a mobile game, it's far more likely to be used by players in this than in something like Fallout 76. You can assume that most Legends players are gonna come from mobile. The game is designed and built so they can also play on their PC/Xbox/Switch and bring across their progression. People are far less likely to buy two copies of a full game like Fallout 76 and need to hop from one console to the other. It'd be awesome if it was there, sure. But it's a game that will get 100% of it's sales and players from PC/PS4/Xbox so probably doesn't make any sense to lose one of those. Legends is a card game that will be mostly played on phones. It doesn't really matter so much if people can't play on their PS4. The important thing for Bethesda, it seems, is that the people playing it on every other platform have the best version possible.
Bethesda wants the game to be crossplay EVERYWHERE. One account, all your purchases and progress go with you everywhere and you can play against anyone.
It doesn't matter to Bethesda that Sony is doing some half-assed cross-play support with PC, since that still leaves out Xbox and Switch.
It's not gonna be much of a gimmick when literally every other platform already does it.
They're not talking about their next bundle of games. They're talking about a mobile-first, F2P card game that, currently, includes (and requires) full crossplay and cross progression. That's it.
But my point is if they start making demands Sony would likely tell them in as professional manner as possible to go fuck themselves. They would lose 80-90 million potential customers for future titles if Sony played hardball
The comments dismissing card games are really weird to me. Next sports games, then racing games, etc. as long as you don't care? Or what?