I mean, this really should be up to the person he is streaming with, no? if they are okay with it, then I dont see why he should care.
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Polygon: Tyler "Ninja" Blevins explains why he doesn't stream with women
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If he isn't, then there shouldn't be an issue playing with women.
So basically women are paying the price again because of misogynist men. And he is ok with that.
I can see why he would want to stay out of trouble, but that was a poor reasoning.
I can see why he would want to stay out of trouble, but that was a poor reasoning.
People defending his position (their position) with the GG lite edition are fucking insane with how backwards they are.
He'd definitely have a stronger position if he didn't partake in the same kind of gossip-mongering he accuses his viewers would. The best option, of course, would be to educate his viewers, but it would also be the hardest one to actually act on. I've never watched his streams, but I can imagine his chat is one of those that will spam "Grill!" whenever a woman's voice is heard, simply due to the fact there are millions of them, and that's Twitch culture in a nutshell.
Becasue the word isn't sexist? What did I change exactly? It was my thoughts.
He's doing this to protect his privacy and keep his marriage as stable as possible. He's not doing it becasue he hates women and doesn't want them on his channe.
Well.. I mean the fact that he/she called Ninja weak in the first place deserved a "ROFL". I said it before and I'll say it again.. some of you probably have never been on twitch or have seen the type of comments that get posted under every twitter post he makes. At the end of the day, its his stream. His fan base is composed of by a majority of 13 year olds. He can play with whoever he wants for whatever reasons.
Constant harraent about how her husband is having an affair from thousands of people nonstop.
You can't seriosuly think how that wouldn't cause some friction in a marriage?
Dude literally does the thing he's claiming he's protecting his wife from lol....
Uh, yes? If you say you want to protect a woman who never even asked for your protection, and you do so by actively engaging in sexist and exclusionary behaviour, you are indeed being sexist. Blatantly so.
Not sure why you included that particular comment from me in that mini NOT AT ALL APPLICABLE TO THIS SITUATION AS ACCOUNTED BY THE AUTHOR OF THE STATEMENT when I've dropped a couple of juicier bombs to pick from.
That's what I'm saying. It makes.me.sad that so many are in relationships where Fidelity and honestly don't matter. :(
The guy is looking out for the health of his relationship (actually considering how his career could affect his wife) and yet people still ridicule for such a logical decision. I would have done the exact same thing in his position. As a general question, how many married guys has anyone seen with scores of female friends? It never happens for reasons exactly like this.
I'm also in support of Cavill's general statement (although in his case, the guy is waaaay overworrying about it).
I'm also in support of Cavill's general statement (although in his case, the guy is waaaay overworrying about it).
It shouldn't, they aren't kids, they are both adults and I'm sure they know how the internet works.
I was talking about sexist gaming culture and you dog whistled it down to "dramatic". My point is you can't even acknowledge that the very reason he's using to defend not having women on his stream is sexist gaming culture.... you described it as people being dramatic instead.
You;re literally saying it's totally reasonable to exclude women because of how streamer viewers react but you couldn't even call the reaction of those streamers sexist you had to call it "dramatic' instead.
I'm sure he would love to play with other girls if it meant he wouldn't get tons of hate thrown at him and his wife about how he's having an affair with a girl becasue he streamed with her.
Look at the ridiculous things being said right here. The mischaracterization happening to him right here in this thread. Now imagine he goes on and streams with other women, and the mischaracterization and rumors and such will be amplified times a thousand. So yeah, I don't blame him a bit for not wanting to deal with that.
To me, this is very well said. Including people is a personal choice and there is nothing malicious about his decision.
I admit I don't know much about him, not being into streamer culture. I assumed him not to be a piece of shit, which admittedly may not be a safe assumption as far as gaming goes.
I scanned the thread (and the entirety of this page) and found no mention of any other reason for him to exclude female streamers than what he stated. I may have missed it, so if you can point me to it, I'll be happy to educate myself.
That said, I don't understand why the thread is talking about how flimsy his explanation is or isn't, if he's literally contradicting a prior statement. Why not focus on that instead? I mean, if he's said in the past "I don't stream with women because X", then that's pretty much checkmate and all speculation is pointless, isn't it?
I see the usual suspects are out in force.
Who are you to say how a relationship should or shouldn't work? Have you been in the position this guy is in or something?
So if he didn't want to play with black.people or gay people it's his business too I guess.
Because i never intended to use the word sexist because that's not what I feel the move is. It's a dramatic step to take to protect him from the dramatic people who would see there is some big hidden affair where there isn't one.
Replacing the word dramatic with sexist doesn't even make sense in the context I'm speaking. People don't need to be sexist to think there's an affair where there isn't one
This is not about "a married guy not playing with women". It's more about "a married guy not playing with women in front of a live audience of hundreds of thousands of people, many of whom have the toxic mentality that they are owed something by the streamers they watch". There is a difference between the two.
The average sports stadium holds like 30-40k people. Can you imagine what it's like having FIVE FULL sports stadiums of people watching you live 10 hours a day? Ninja is the most popular gamer on the planet atm, but he is also in a prison of his own fame. No one should fault him for taking steps to mitigate potential issues before they arise.
He's doing exactly what typical hollywood celebrities do, it's just he doesn't have PR and publicist's working around the clock for him, so his untrained responses come across as crass and sexist - but anyone who spends any time at all on the big twitch channels will empathize with his comments as they will know the context from which they originate.
This thread is mad, if he isn't flirting etc with the womrmen then there is no problem with working with them. Guys and girls can just be friends you know...
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It is. How is that so hard to understand? It doesn't make it right, but it's a personal freedom.
He's not protecting women in general. He's protecting his wife and his relationship. I don't know if his exclusion of women in his stream can be even called sexist, when he's doing it for practical purposes because of the toxic community. He's not doing it because he thinks ill of women.
But really he can't come out good out if this, he either makes the moral call to allow women on his stream and suffers whatever he and his wife thinks they could suffer or makes the 'easier' call and risks being called a sexist and a coward.
Because if he played with a black guy it wouldn't be negatively affecting their relationship. It's not even the same thing.
No, because those situations are alike in exactly zero ways.
Brah I'm not talking about the dude, I'm talking about the people the dude is not streaming with women to avoid... Those dudes are sexist as fuck but all you could do is call them dramatic.
You just did it again "dramatic people" no sexist people, they're not dramatic they're sexist.
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Jesus Christmas, all ya'll insinuating or straight up calling him sexist are really showing your asses here.
Extremely embarrassing.
And you obviously don't. Its precisiely because he knows how the internet works that he doesn't want a scenario that causes more strain of any part of his personal life.
Jesus...
Some of the replies in this thread are easily some of the most dumb crap i've read on era in a long while >.>
Extremely embarrassing.
And you obviously don't. Its precisiely because he knows how the internet works that he doesn't want a scenario that causes more strain of any part of his personal life.
Jesus...
Some of the replies in this thread are easily some of the most dumb crap i've read on era in a long while >.>
Did you read the post I was replying to? Please explain to me how people online saying he is having a relationship with other women would affect their marriage? You shouldn't be married if such a silly thing affects you.
??? He literally says, She had nothing to do with it. That was me
What are you doing?
You're absolutely right. However there's people who are immature and don't see that and are willing to jump to him having an affair which caused him to make that hard decision.
How I kinda feel, also don't blame him the twitch community is toxic af. If he doesn't feel comfortable streaming with female for his reasons cause of his marriage so be it.
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Claiming you see an affair where there isn't one doesn't make you sexist. It makes that person dramatic.
FYI, this doesn't mean it can't be sexist. Sexism and misogyny are different things, though one frequently affects the other. You can engage in sexist behaviour without being misogynistic, but it doesn't make it not sexist.
And folks also have the freedom to say hey that's racist and hey that's homophobic.
Some of you don't understand Twitch culture and the toxciticy it brings. He doesn't have to be flirting with a female streamer for things to go terribly wrong. The mere presence is enough for Twitch chat to begin rumors of dating. Any female that streams with Ninja will be then subject to constant harassment on her stream, through twitter DMs, and on reddit. I have seen it first hand how it leads to streams that are filled with negativity and makes streamers extremely uncomfortable.
I do believe that Ninja should use his platform to help change Twitch and its toxicity problem but I understand why he would take the easy route. I doubt he wants to be the person who impacts a fellow streamers life negatively while also impacting his brand and marriage. I just wish he would do a little more to help.
I do believe that Ninja should use his platform to help change Twitch and its toxicity problem but I understand why he would take the easy route. I doubt he wants to be the person who impacts a fellow streamers life negatively while also impacting his brand and marriage. I just wish he would do a little more to help.
I think his decision is also in part about his viewers. Nobody wants to read toxic shit spammed in chat accusing him of cheating, and all the other nonsense that would be said. Not saying it's right, but the possibility of it negatively impacting his viewers would be very high.
Makes sense to me. Too much of Twitch chat/his audience are crappy teens/early 20s who typically the worst about shipping and spreading lies/harassment (Twitch chat can be very toxic). Could cause a major strain in his relationship with his wife if they are constantly being assaulted with this crap.
Okay...
You think that they have never had a conversation where the wife talks about how she feels about the toxic twitch chat? It doesn't need to be about that very specific conversation.
Basically, he's either gonna get the harassment and annoyance of a toxic gamer community that he has been trying to avoid, or he gets harassment and annoyance from people trying their damn hardest to pin him as some sexist. Its absolutely a lose lose here, and that sucks.