It did. But with a low print. It's known to be creepy because the characters models don't have face :)
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EmuParadise no longer providing ROM download links
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It did. But with a low print. It's known to be creepy because the characters models don't have face :)
Yeah, it was pretty much their last real RPG. It was released in the US, parents bought it for me when I was a kiddo. It's actually a good game.
Archive.org can only host what it does thanks to the DMCA and copyright being a largely civil issue. The ROM collection there is more-or-less a don't ask/don't tell type thing. There is no publisher permission, but the publishers who own the ROMs that it hosts haven't sent along DMCA notices. It's why you see a large collection of SEGA ROMs and no appreciable number of Nintendo ROMs.
The TG-16 / PCE / Duo CDs had no region protection.
Getting Rondo to run was as simple as putting it into your console and booting it up. At least for a SNES or Genesis, you needed a Game Genie (or other cart converter) to play imports. With the Duo, you could just order from any import shop and play them directly.
It's still a fantastic system.
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If it wasn't for EmuParadise I would have never discovered the Yakuza series (Y1 & 2, I bought the rest of the games!). Sad news. Best of luck to the crew that ran it for all those years.
I'm not sure what copies are going for now but back in the early 2000's as a starving college student getting ahold of a TG-16 CD/PCE Duo on ebay and importing a copy of Rondo of Blood wasn't affordable. Making the CD from bin cue files etc was the hard part.
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I used this site when the other big rom site didn't have the games for me to add for the Nes and snes classics.
This is a great post and a great example. There's definitely a fine line, but the idea that a site like this with a focus on preservation is a mere lie due and a facade for piracy is BS. The vast majority of bed, SNES and heck id even say N64 and newer games will never be reprinted. Many studios and publishers are defunct. Emulation is necessary for the preservation of gaming history. Itd be horribly sad anyway for younger generations to essentially have to pay thousands of dollars just to have access to even a small fraction of gaming history when most of the original creators don't even have a way to get money from potential sales of those decades old games.This is Terranigma.
It is one of the best games ever released on the SNES and an important part of the history of JRPGs. It is also an incredibly rare title that goes for well over $100 on eBay or other secondhand resale websites, with said copies only functioning on PAL territory SNES unless one makes a physical modification to their NES. When I reviewed the game, I mentioned that emulation is the only means for most people to play it because that's the only way to experience Terranigma outside of paying a ludicrous amount for a two-decade old, out-of-print SNES that the original publisher makes no money off of and either paying additional money for a PAL region SNES or modifying your own. If there was a more legitimate means of getting Terranigma (as I say in the review) such as through a Virtual Console release or a hideous-looking remake, then there wouldn't need to emulate the game.
Equating Emuparadise to the likes of some torrenting site to get a copy of, say, The Witcher 3 (which is piracy and I oppose it) exemplifies a profound level of ignorance as to the purpose of emulation sites in general. More importantly, if the games industry is going to continue to slack on preserving its history (including Square, who lost the code to the original Kingdom Hearts), it falls to the gaming community to preserve the history of the medium. As Cisce said, it's better for someone to have experience the rich history of the medium than to not experience at all.
A repro cart, probably burnt using a downloaded ROM. Oh, the irony.
Somebody think of the reproducers!
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Says it right on the page.
So someone in this thread didn't even bother checking the actual item, and is actively promoting people profiting off stolen goods as opposed to people downloading them for free.
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This is Terranigma.
It is one of the best games ever released on the SNES and an important part of the history of JRPGs. It is also an incredibly rare title that goes for well over $100 on eBay or other secondhand resale websites, with said copies only functioning on PAL territory SNES unless one makes a physical modification to their NES. When I reviewed the game, I mentioned that emulation is the only means for most people to play it because that's the only way to experience Terranigma outside of paying a ludicrous amount for a two-decade old, out-of-print SNES that the original publisher makes no money off of and either paying additional money for a PAL region SNES or modifying your own. If there was a more legitimate means of getting Terranigma (as I say in the review) such as through a Virtual Console release or a hideous-looking remake, then there wouldn't need to emulate the game.
Equating Emuparadise to the likes of some torrenting site to get a copy of, say, The Witcher 3 (which is piracy and I oppose it) exemplifies a profound level of ignorance as to the purpose of emulation sites in general. More importantly, if the games industry is going to continue to slack on preserving its history (including Square, who lost the code to the original Kingdom Hearts), it falls to the gaming community to preserve the history of the medium. As Cisce said, it's better for someone to have experience the rich history of the medium than to not experience at all.
And this is one of the better known examples that someone here may have actually played in it's original setup at the time.
In comparison, who here has tried to play BS Zelda on the Satellaview without a patch? Or tried to comb through the libraries of old Japanese PCs like the PC-88?
It's actually kinda frustrating that this kind of thing is happening to sites like Emuparadise now, when ROM hunting scenes are going full-in on preserving obscurities and rarities.
I've said it before but copyright is the death of games preservation and the amount of people going to bat for companies effectively destroying gaming history is awful. There are many, many SNES, NES and N64 games whose rights are in complete limbo, will likely never receive a port and will be lost if people do not actively preserve them.
Among the absolute best SNES RPGs is Lufia 2 which for example has never, ever had another proper rerelease outside of a 3DS remake. I own a hard copy of the game, but if you'd want to actually play it in the modern era you either need a full SNES setup and the cart which goes for around 100 easy, or you'd have to emulate it. It's absolutely criminal and according to many people I suppose it should just be rendered unplayable to modern audiences.
This is why I deeply appreciate Sega because for all of their faults, they have one of the most progressive viewpoints on shit like this.
Among the absolute best SNES RPGs is Lufia 2 which for example has never, ever had another proper rerelease outside of a 3DS remake. I own a hard copy of the game, but if you'd want to actually play it in the modern era you either need a full SNES setup and the cart which goes for around 100 easy, or you'd have to emulate it. It's absolutely criminal and according to many people I suppose it should just be rendered unplayable to modern audiences.
This is why I deeply appreciate Sega because for all of their faults, they have one of the most progressive viewpoints on shit like this.
I'm watching it now for the first time and it's a pretty damn good lecture.
Put together a short thread on Twitter to further expand on my thoughts:
SEGA lost the code to Panzer Dragoon Saga.
Not very well given a (very brief) Google search that suggests it involves patching the console.
How does Terranigma run on the SNES Mini?This is Terranigma.
It is one of the best games ever released on the SNES and an important part of the history of JRPGs. It is also an incredibly rare title that goes for well over $100 on eBay or other secondhand resale websites, with said copies only functioning on PAL territory SNES unless one makes a physical modification to their NES. When I reviewed the game, I mentioned that emulation is the only means for most people to play it because that's the only way to experience Terranigma outside of paying a ludicrous amount for a two-decade old, out-of-print SNES that the original publisher makes no money off of and either paying additional money for a PAL region SNES or modifying your own. If there was a more legitimate means of getting Terranigma (as I say in the review) such as through a Virtual Console release or a hideous-looking remake, then there wouldn't need to emulate the game.
Equating Emuparadise to the likes of some torrenting site to get a copy of, say, The Witcher 3 (which is piracy and I oppose it) exemplifies a profound level of ignorance as to the purpose of emulation sites in general. More importantly, if the games industry is going to continue to slack on preserving its history (including Square, who lost the code to the original Kingdom Hearts), it falls to the gaming community to preserve the history of the medium. As Cisce said, it's better for someone to have experience the rich history of the medium than to not experience at all.
End of an era. Archival/preservation of old games, lost software, and other various artifacts, is going to be increasingly difficult unfortunately. Which is unfortunate because I think it's fair to say that ROMs have played a part in helping the industry grow over the years.
Lord of Ostia
Our collection at the Museum of Play is certainly growing. There is always more to be done, but we just announced a collection from the company Wargaming today.
http://www.museumofplay.org/press/r...trong-museum-receives-donation-from-wargaming
That said, fans do play a huge part in preservation, through tools, documents, and other material that is recovered.
Girlfriend just told me about this right now, shit this is terrible.
I know there are other sites but EmuParadise was the go to place due to it's huge collection.
I know there are other sites but EmuParadise was the go to place due to it's huge collection.
While I don't like the idea of sites getting ad revenue or whatever from ROMs they don't own, the console video game industry is uniquely terrible at preserving its history. It's so bad that many efforts by big gaming companies to re-release classics have relied on the work emulation companies did for free. Would services like VC or GOG even be the same without that existing unofficial emulation work, or exist at all? Console gaming is bad at this compared to movies and music, and even compared to PC gaming and other software industries.
I'm all for preservation, & most companies are horrible with archiving their development materials.
This is a big blow.
This is a big blow.
For anyone curious about this stuff and all sorts of software, books, movies, etc that are in danger of disappearing forever, I strongly recommend checking out archive.org.
I just went through all 12 pages and see the same old shit "if you don't have the money, don't play games", I assume most people who have that kind of view are living in the first world country, hell, one guy even claimed it's easy because he had the money to burn on thousand of cartridges.
Anything that I want to say is already said by other members who shared the same view as me. I was born in 3rd world country, and this is sad news for me as Emuparadise is one of the reason I bought a lot of legitimate games nowadays so does a lot of my friends. To be honest, ATLUS might as well be thanking the guy who sold me a pirated copy of Persona 3 and Nocturne for 50 cents each as now I have all original copy Megaten titles ever released on the west with the exception Revelations: Persona, Persona 2: Eternal Punishment for PS1 and Jack Bros for Virtual Boy because I refuse to pay hundreds of dollars to some jackass resellers on ebay. I'd buy a new copy in a heartbeat if ATLUS decided to reprints like they did in 2008 though.
Anything that I want to say is already said by other members who shared the same view as me. I was born in 3rd world country, and this is sad news for me as Emuparadise is one of the reason I bought a lot of legitimate games nowadays so does a lot of my friends. To be honest, ATLUS might as well be thanking the guy who sold me a pirated copy of Persona 3 and Nocturne for 50 cents each as now I have all original copy Megaten titles ever released on the west with the exception Revelations: Persona, Persona 2: Eternal Punishment for PS1 and Jack Bros for Virtual Boy because I refuse to pay hundreds of dollars to some jackass resellers on ebay. I'd buy a new copy in a heartbeat if ATLUS decided to reprints like they did in 2008 though.
I'm surprised that these retro rom sites are closing left and right but the sites sharing 3DS roms are still running.
Regarding preservation, there are plenty of other, much better preservation groups and sites than EmuParadise. For example, there are numerous ROM and ISO dumper groups that strive to create 100% complete, unaltered dumps of every game, even if it takes special hardware to dump "unnecessary" data (e.g. a preservationist's dream). They upload their dumps to archive.org, an organization dedicated to preservation of everything, including old movies, recordings, and digital goods. It's where people go to view TONS of old web site snapshots. Even though you can download tons of ROMs from archive.org, it's a long established non-profit with no ads on their site, and it's clear what their goals are compared to a straight-up piracy site like EmuParadise.
It's efforts like the ones from these actual preservationists that give us ROMs without dumb things like trainers... Remember those? Or when you download a Famicom Disk System image and there are saved games already written to the disk, lol. (Though I'm sure it's not easy to find unaltered copies of FDS games to dump).
In any case, my main issue with piracy in general is when people sell off others' work. I'm honestly not too familiar with EmuParadise (I remember always hating their site for some reason, when I wanted to pirate) but did they engage in that, outside of a reasonable amount of ads for server costs?
It's efforts like the ones from these actual preservationists that give us ROMs without dumb things like trainers... Remember those? Or when you download a Famicom Disk System image and there are saved games already written to the disk, lol. (Though I'm sure it's not easy to find unaltered copies of FDS games to dump).
In any case, my main issue with piracy in general is when people sell off others' work. I'm honestly not too familiar with EmuParadise (I remember always hating their site for some reason, when I wanted to pirate) but did they engage in that, outside of a reasonable amount of ads for server costs?
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Damn man. They were a godsend when it came to tracking down some little games and easily downloading a good rip. But torrents have full collections these days. I have all that I want pretty much. I polished my collection a couple year's ago with everything and then some that I could think of for just about every system. Oh well I guess. Sad to see it when companies release so many shit ports or nothing at all.
You can't win this fight. You can only dent good sites like Emu. Bullshit I say. Anything going on 20 years old doesn't even matter anymore in gaming. No one is making a dime off it.
Emu was a not bad site either for those of you wondering. It made money off weird ads and shit of course, but nothing bad that I saw.
You can't win this fight. You can only dent good sites like Emu. Bullshit I say. Anything going on 20 years old doesn't even matter anymore in gaming. No one is making a dime off it.
Emu was a not bad site either for those of you wondering. It made money off weird ads and shit of course, but nothing bad that I saw.
Growing up in South America, I wasnt given much money fo buy games and many of my friends had even less than that, so they explored gaming through emulation. These sites allowed us to explore entire libraries that were unaccesible to us. I would have never played Sonic if it wasnt for Genesis emulation.
If you think everyone in the world can afford a console and games just because you can then im sorry that you are so short-sighted. Many devs that have come out of, say, Brasil, discovered the SNES and their love of gaming thanks to emulation. Ask brazilians and argentinians how much a console costs there. Its not a pretty picture.
If you think everyone in the world can afford a console and games just because you can then im sorry that you are so short-sighted. Many devs that have come out of, say, Brasil, discovered the SNES and their love of gaming thanks to emulation. Ask brazilians and argentinians how much a console costs there. Its not a pretty picture.
Post 574 are my thoughts. There isn't a preservation angle here, nothing that has ever been archived by redump or a similar group (literally anything on EP) is in danger of being lost any time this century, considering how much they are circulated. There seem to be a lot of people who think preservation must mean that everything is available to the public.
That said, our copyright laws are fucked and there's no hope of them turning around while corporations write our laws. Companies profiting from those laws is unethical (yet basically unavoidable with how systemic it is).
That said, our copyright laws are fucked and there's no hope of them turning around while corporations write our laws. Companies profiting from those laws is unethical (yet basically unavoidable with how systemic it is).
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One of the other things people don't understand is that emulation is sometimes better than official releases. Take for example the MMX Legacy Collection, if you want to play those games the "legit" way, you're rewarded for your efforts with terrible input lag and screen tearing.
These companies honestly give less of a shit about the quality of their products than fans do. If they actually made definitive, perfect copies of these games available, there would be no reason to pirate them in the first place.
Most people just want ease of access and quality, and trying to extract either of these things from the Big Three is like trying to squeeze water from a stone.
These companies honestly give less of a shit about the quality of their products than fans do. If they actually made definitive, perfect copies of these games available, there would be no reason to pirate them in the first place.
Most people just want ease of access and quality, and trying to extract either of these things from the Big Three is like trying to squeeze water from a stone.
This is a difficult one as I do believe piracy is still a huge issue when it comes to old classics, we are losing on preserving older games that will never be released in any form ever again.
Maybe a new website that is built with the idea of preserving those lost to time games came about, rather than a massive database containing everything from Mario to Nintendo World Championship.
Let's face it, we don't have to worry about Super Mario Bros being lost to time, so maybe stop hosting the big hits.
Maybe a new website that is built with the idea of preserving those lost to time games came about, rather than a massive database containing everything from Mario to Nintendo World Championship.
Let's face it, we don't have to worry about Super Mario Bros being lost to time, so maybe stop hosting the big hits.
It isn't a loss at all. Emuparadise was just a public-facing repository for preservation groups. For example in my museum archives I have literally everything Emuparadise has ever hosted, along with countless more terabytes. As long as we're alive, nothing can stop retro gaming preservation no matter how censored the Internet gets.
But it will be a huge loss for casual people who don't understand the intricacies of this scene, which is ultimately the goal of these anti-piracy teams. Emuparadise was the premiere ROM hosting site back in the day. I remember going there 15 years ago...Emuparadise was one of the last real bastions of traditional ROM sharing. It's a bit surreal to think that it's just gone forever.
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SEGA also lost the tech demo for Sonic the Hedgehog among other things, but that statement is more in regard to Sega's laxness on ROM scenes - to the point where they've left code in games specifically for ROM dumpers and hackers to find, and they would even hire emulation devvers and ROM hackers for projects. Did you know one of the Sonic Mania devs made a tool for editing Sonic 2 levels way back in the day?
But, havent you heard? If the game never got a remake/rerelease then it clearly isn't worth playing!
Archive.org has also begun to disable public-facing access to the ROM collections available through it because anti-piracy teams have started to catch on. Soon there won't be any ROMs available for download there either.
Corporations and their anti-piracy teams will eventually censor and remove all public access to ROMs. Make no mistake...it's much too profitable just to sell a few ROMs and remakes while the rest of the storied history of video games gets left to rot.
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I would never try and play Disaster Report serie on ps2 without emulation. I did buy the first and second game, of course on second hand market, because the second one don't run well on psx2 and i wanted to play it.
Did i harm Irem devs? Nope. Will i buy the new incoming disaster report game ? Yeah.
Why? Because of emulation and roms.
Being greedy is what nintendo is. That is all, but fanboys all over the interweb will defend that move.
Did i harm Irem devs? Nope. Will i buy the new incoming disaster report game ? Yeah.
Why? Because of emulation and roms.
Being greedy is what nintendo is. That is all, but fanboys all over the interweb will defend that move.
I don't think you understand how dire this situation is. Disc rot is slowly eroding huge swaths of physical collections. It's getting increasingly rare to find old games in working condition, and the discs that are working are fragile and need to be preserved as soon as possible.
Piracy is the only avenue that allows people to work together to protect our history while we still can. If we wait another 30 years, it could very well be too late. The whole sentiment of copyright gets thrown out of the window when the history of an art form is at stake. Like, we have plenty of years to fight over that nonsense (which won't even matter ultimately because everything will go into the public domain).
It saddens me when the Internet gets increasingly censored because it has the potential to scatter collectors...when in reality we should all be coming together to save everything before it disappears.
This was one of the most consistent sites for.... This sort of thing I've ever seen. They will be missed.
It's just as shocking how many people are openly promoting piracy.
I feel like the shuttering of these sites is going to scare private collectors into hiding.
I wonder how much of the PC88 library is in complete legal limbo. Or the MSX? Or the X86000? Even games on PC Engine CD are probably mostly by publishers that have gone defunct.
It's equally amusing to see how many people don't understand for a large swath of older video games the only real avenue to play them is through piracy.
Again, I refer you to my Lufia 2 example. You only have two avenues to play it: Either you buy the cart (which can be prohibitively expensive) or you pirate it.
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