Your family and friends probably wouldn't like seeing you like that though.I wouldn't care if I get beheaded or grilled on an electric chair...ok, I think I would prefer to be beheaded. But I sure don't care what happens afterwards.
Your family and friends probably wouldn't like seeing you like that though.I wouldn't care if I get beheaded or grilled on an electric chair...ok, I think I would prefer to be beheaded. But I sure don't care what happens afterwards.
It's something in our religion. So you think a murderer doesn't deserve to be killed? Or you have other opinion about it?
You're no better than them if you commit their same crime against them. How does a wrong right another wrong?It's something in our religion. So you think a murderer doesn't deserve to be killed? Or you have other opinion about it?
Generally there's a lot more room for error and grievous pain with somebody manually beheading another person.I don't see how it's different from the USA. In fact, I think beheading is quicker and less suffering than the American way (lethal injection).
Now, the crucifixion, that's different. But still, in the USA they allow the family of the victims to watch the prisoners die.
Generally, only if you specifically set it up in a way so that it does. It doesnt have to.
I don't see how it's different from the USA. In fact, I think beheading is quicker and less suffering than the American way (lethal injection).
Now, the crucifixion, that's different. But still, in the USA they allow the family of the victims to watch the prisoners die.
Any form of capital punishment or death penalty is unbefitting to any civilized nation. Be it stoning, the guillotine, a firing squad, gas chamber, beheading or injection.
It's something in our religion. So you think a murderer doesn't deserve to be killed? Or you have other opinion about it?
It's something in our religion. So you think a murderer doesn't deserve to be killed? Or you have other opinion about it?
This has been known for a long time but it needs to be in the spotlight at all times to condemn the barbaric Saudi regime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimr_al-Nimr
Sheikh Al nimr, spoke against inequality and oppression and called for democracy and then he was beheaded for it.
A true ally to the west these Saudis are.....
Our nation will never rise until people with your backward thinking are gone. No it's not in our religion, no other Muslim nation than the backwards Wahabi regime in Saudi Arabia practices beheading or crucifixion.
No I'd rather my head be crushed between two steel plates that come together faster than I can feel the pain . You're still alive for a bit with a guillotine.if i had to pick a method of execution for myself, i'd totally go for the guillotine. just make sure the blade is sharp as fuck.
There's a reason we give animals lethal injection and don't behead them.
Not for pets we dont. Animals for slaughter is a whole other ball game, they're not afforded the same care and humane treatment as pets.????? We cut the throat of animals and we use bolt pistols in their heads
Not for pets we dont. Animals for slaughter is a whole other ball game, they're not afforded the same care and humane treatment as pets.
State and Religion should have nothing to do with each other.It's something in our religion. So you think a murderer doesn't deserve to be killed? Or you have other opinion about it?
I'm not at all in favor of death penalty for humans.It's not very convincing using a double standard as defence of your morals.
See people, this guy is one the reasons why the Muslim nation, and Saudi Arabia in particular will always be a cesspool of backward thinking regime boot licking apologists.
When a man was beaten, tortured and beheaded for calling for freedom and democracy then the Saudi regime drones come out and call him a terrorist, even after his death they still want to kill his name.
All I can say is Fuck the Saudi royal family from it's founding king to MBS, fuck them all to hell.
"Change takes time" does it? How long should we give a cadre of oil drunk barbarous aristocratic fools?http://www.bbc.com/arabic/middleeast-38484078
Yeah kidnapping this man in front of his house a killing him is not so terrorist?
So much for the group calling for freedom and democracy .
I hope that you search what that group did in al-Qatif.
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A lot of social media influencers are vocal about many problems in the kingdom and they weren't put inside prisoners.
I know that SA isn't a pinky world where everything is perfect but change takes time.
You can be completely against the death penalty while still recognizing that some methods of execution are way more barbaric and inhumane than others.
Not for pets we dont. Animals for slaughter is a whole other ball game, they're not afforded the same care and humane treatment as pets.
That'a real woke.
Probably.I feel this thread is going to turn into a thread about capital punishment in general
http://www.bbc.com/arabic/middleeast-38484078
Yeah kidnapping this man in front of his house a killing him is not so terrorist?
So much for the group calling for freedom and democracy .
I hope that you search what that group did in al-Qatif.
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A lot of social media influencers are vocal about many problems in the kingdom and they weren't put inside prisoners.
I know that SA isn't a pinky world where everything is perfect but change takes time.
Probably.
Like I stated numerous times before: the death penalty should not exist. Not ever.
The gruesome display is a bonus. Not satisfied with just being bloodthirsty, gotta show it off too. Great stuff. Disgusting.
Too drunk to give a fulfilling answer right now. I'll get back to you tomorrow when I sober up if I rememberI'm not really sure what the practical difference this point makes. Tell me where my trains of thought has gone wrong
1. Killing people who have committed certain crimes is fine (At least from the logic of the USA and Saudi Arabia)
2. Killing by cutting the throat of an animal is humane (By the standards of the UK, and I assume other western places)
3. Beheading is functionally equivalent to throat cutting (my personal opinion)
4. Therefore beheading must be humane
5. Watching the victim die/being dead is OK (At least from the logic of the USA and Saudi Arabia)
6. Therefore having someone being tied down who poses absolutely no further threat to and then inviting people to come watch them gasp for air for up to 2 hours as they die "sedated" - and cutting someones head off (which afaik should be an instant kill) and displaying the body for all to see are equivalently despicable.
What makes the US system so much better and the Saudi's "barbaric"? It feels like people are simply reacting to the method and manner being "different" rather than the exact facts of the way we treat condemned criminals in what is considered the most powerful and influential country in the "civilized" world.
The first passage of your paragraph literally quotes the Saudi authorities, if you expect anyone here to believe what these "authorities" have to say about any justifications for the arrest of Sheikh al Nimr then you're seriously underestimating people's minds around here.
On the other hand Al Nimr's execution was condemned by a multitude of global Human rights organization
http://www.adhrb.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/2015.11.20_IRF-Sheikh-Nimr_Final1.pdf
Whatever trumped up and phony charges the Saudi authorities can cook up to save face on TV, they might as well flush it down the toiled because no one is buying it.
The only group that is sowing chaos in al Qatif are the saudi royals and their thug army trying to oppress the Shia, the uprising in Bahrain shook them so hard the Saudi royals nearly shat their pants and sent their army against civilians to prop up their puppet king there, so they stepped up the oppression against the Shia in Al qatif.
It's something in our religion. So you think a murderer doesn't deserve to be killed? Or you have other opinion about it?
As strong as Crown Prince Salman wants to seem to the world, his actions are the actions of a scared little boy. The latest actions against Canada are yet another sign that the house of cards propping up the House of Saud isn't as "strong and stable" as it might seem, to steal a phrase from the Brexit debacle..
It's something in our religion. So you think a murderer doesn't deserve to be killed? Or you have other opinion about it?
I never said it's okay for innocent people to die. All I said was a murderer deserves to die because taking away an innocent life isn't acceptable.Capital punishment gets lots of innocent people killed, if you advocate for it you're saying it's okay if innocent people die in your quest for bloodlust.
That's not even getting into the moral argument that a government shouldn't be allowed to kill its citizens
Is this some very odd way to express the "both sides" sentiment?Meh if you proposed this happen to Trump or the Charlottesville marchers a good amount would get behind it.
Meh if you proposed this happen to Trump or the Charlottesville marchers a good amount would get behind it.
Is this some very odd way to express the "both sides" sentiment?
"Well, if it happened to someone you dislike, you'd support it".
No. Just no.
http://www.bbc.com/arabic/middleeast-38484078
Yeah kidnapping this man in front of his house a killing him is not so terrorist?
So much for the group calling for freedom and democracy .
I hope that you search what that group did in al-Qatif.
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A lot of social media influencers are vocal about many problems in the kingdom and they weren't put inside prisoners.
I know that SA isn't a pinky world where everything is perfect but change takes time.
It doesn't.First i want to say I'm against death penalty, i think it's barbaric.
From i have been reading lethal injections, the electric chair, the gas chamber causes lots of pain and discomfort, but beheading kills you right away.
I never said it's okay for innocent people to die. All I said was a murderer deserves to die because taking away an innocent life isn't acceptable.
Meh if you proposed this happen to Trump or the Charlottesville marchers a good amount would get behind it.
I'll always take the "No death penalty" stance, and so will many others. Additionally, this is about decapitation and crucifixion. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.LOL it's not both sides, but it is true. Go into a thread about an offending pedophile. Plenty of calls for the death penalty and no-one is going to take up the anti-death penalty cause in that context.
So when someone is executed and they turn out to be innocent, does everyone who participated and condoned the execution get killed as some part of sick chain reaction? I mean, they all participated in taking away an innocent life.I never said it's okay for innocent people to die. All I said was a murderer deserves to die because taking away an innocent life isn't acceptable.
I'll always take the "No death penalty" stance, and so will many others. Additionally, this is about decapitation and crucifixion. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.
SA uses the death penalty on its critics, they're not executing Nazis.