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Oct 25, 2017
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Not sure how I feel about this. A popular movies category would serve only to inflate movies who are already backed by huge studios and have already made a shit ton of money.

It's like having a "best AAA game" for a video game award. It ends up being meaningless imo.

I disagree. An AAA category for games is pointless because AAA games already win regular awards. Blockbuster films do not (atleast not at the oscars). So this gives films which normally woildn't be highlighted outside of special effects or soundtracks etc.. a chance to be recognized.

Althougth ideally they would just nominate these films normally, but that wont haooen anytime soon
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,745
Basically treating "Popular Movies" like "Animated Features" and relegating them to a participation trophy.

Garbage move.
 

Kill3r7

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd say it plays a large part. The genre has not only proven that it can last but we're in an age where 2-3 of them end up being some of the best reviewed movies of that year and audiences are bored with seeing great movies that they enjoy get snubbed. It can't be ignored any longer but they sure are trying.

Paddington 2 reviewed better than any of the superhore movies this year. Should it get an Oscar nod as well?
 

Meows

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Oct 28, 2017
6,399
Best Popular movie? Why is the Academy lowering themselves to the People's Choice Awards.
 

Kongroo

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Oct 31, 2017
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I disagree. An AAA category for games is pointless because AAA games already win regular awards. Blockbuster films do not (atleast not at the oscars). So this gives films which normally woildn't be highlighted outside of special effects or soundtracks etc.. a chance to be recognized.

But AAA films do get recognized when the level of quality is there. Lord of the Rings, Dark Knight, Forrest Gump, Saving Private Ryan and Mad Max Fury Road are all examples of very popular films that won academy awards.

Giving them a separate category cheapens the films who actually are good enough to get recognized for BP.
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
26,620
lmao best popular movie.

Aka the shitty comic book movie award for fanboys who think their factory line moty isn't getting enough recognition.
but what are the odds something like Return of the King or Fury Road would've never broken into the Best Picture field if there was a popular movie category they could've been shuffled off into instead? This thing is going to be used in the same way that the animated and foreign language categories are used: to keep movies out of best picture.
 

Xe4

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Oct 25, 2017
10,295
Holy shit, the Oscars manage to get worse with each new rule change.

Who gives a fuck about best film editing, documentary short, or animated short, we don't need to show those in full. What we need is best popcorn award. Thems what's the kids into nowadays.

Well, at least Disney will now have two categories to give them guaranteed awards each year.
 

Bronx-Man

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Oct 25, 2017
15,351
I like this. They should expand best picture so you could potentially win both categories (which may happen once in a blue moon) as well.

We all know their preference for oscar bait will never change for BP, so this is a way to acknowledge the strongest pop culture flicks of the year.
I'd rather they just...give it a best pic nomination.

All this is a ghetto for blockbusters. Just like foreign films and animated films get their own ghettos instead of being recognized as the best of the year.
 

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Oct 24, 2017
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While I appreciate them trying to cut down the runtime, I do not know how to feel about awards being given during commercials

As for that Popular Movie award.. I got nothing
 

Meows

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Oct 28, 2017
6,399
How is there a Best Popular Film category before Best Stuntwork or Best Voice Work/Performance or sth?
 

Scullibundo

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Oct 25, 2017
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but what are the odds something like Return of the King or Fury Road would've never broken into the Best Picture field if there was a popular movie category they could've been shuffled off into instead? This thing is going to be used in the same way that the animated and foreign language categories are used: to keep movies out of best picture.
I'm not disagreeing with you. It's a shit move for quality popular movies that have earned the right to sit alongside other greats.

I even expect dudes like Tarantino to get shuffled in here.
 

Window

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Oct 27, 2017
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But AAA films do get recognized when the level of quality is there. Lord of the Rings, Dark Knight, Forrest Gump, Saving Private Ryan and Mad Max Fury Road are all examples of very popular films that won academy awards.

Giving them a separate category cheapens the films who actually are good enough to get recognized for BP.
The Dark Knight actually did not get nominated for BP which is what many believe led to the nomination list being expanded from 5 to up to 10.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,609
But AAA films do get recognized when the level of quality is there. Lord of the Rings, Dark Knight, Forrest Gump, Saving Private Ryan and Mad Max Fury Road are all examples of very popular films that won academy awards.

Giving them a separate category cheapens the films who actually are good enough to get recognized for BP.

I wouldn't out private ryan and forest gumo in the same category as the others you listed. Those are exactly the type of films the Academy loves. Also the others one you listed have nominations but had no chance of actually winning
 

ViewtifulJC

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Oct 25, 2017
21,020
And putting all the "other" awards off the show but keeping every fuckin song is just stupid. Imagine Roger deakins finally winning an Oscar during a commercial break.

I'm just baffled by this. Black panther and Fury Road are now separate but equal.
 

Joule

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Nov 19, 2017
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I think we can thank the people who genuinely thought Black Panther was Best Picture worthy for this new category. It feels like it was made specifically to cater to the twitter crowd that complain about everything that doesn't go their way. It's unfortunate because BP is a pretty good movie in itself and has real solid shots at being nominated for other real awards the Academy has had for a long time like Best Costume and Best Soundtrack.


Glad they want to make it shorter.

EDIT: just read it lol. the author I pretty much wrote what the author said regarding bp
 

Xe4

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Oct 25, 2017
10,295
Seriously, if they're so worried about runtime, cut back on the stupid ass gags and jokes no one cares about. Don't prioritize one award as being better than another, invalidating people's extremely hard work.
 

Meows

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Oct 28, 2017
6,399
What about if there is a major movie like Titanic that broke records? It just gets a random free win because it was big?

This is a really stupid decision by the Academy.

I'm all for bringing the ceremony down to three hours though.
 

okayfrog

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Oct 25, 2017
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Seeing as how they upped the number of nominees for Best Picture so as to include more popular films, hopefully the Popular Film category means they're going back to five nominees for Best Picture (doubt it).
 

Scullibundo

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Oct 25, 2017
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You're aware your precious Avatar would've been relegated to this, right?
I thought that at first, but then realised that if the Academy had done that, they couldn't market their bullshit David vs Goliath/First Woman Director Indie vs Ex-Husband Director of the largest Blockbuster ever that we've happened to sit in the seat behind bullshit scenario.
 

Extra Sauce

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Oct 27, 2017
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Not sure how I feel about this. A popular movies category would serve only to inflate movies who are already backed by huge studios and have already made a shit ton of money.

It's like having a "best AAA game" for a video game award. It ends up being meaningless imo.

Or giving a gold medal for having won the most gold medals.
 

Meows

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Oct 28, 2017
6,399
Seeing as how they upped the number of nominees for Best Picture so as to include more popular films, hopefully the Popular Film category means they're going back to five nominees for Best Picture (doubt it).
I'm all for this if they are really making a sellout category tbh.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Best Popular Movie?

Are we going to get Best Kiss and Best On Screen Couple next ?

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Window

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Oct 27, 2017
8,284
What about if there is a major movie like Titanic that broke records? It just gets a random free win because it was big?

This is a really stupid decision by the Academy.

I'm all for bringing the ceremony down to three hours though.
Titanic swept regardless of this category existing so of course it would win and it wouldn't be random. The question is which category would it have been nominated in.
 

Ithil

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Oct 25, 2017
23,390
Eh, we're still in the decade that saw a garbage movie get nominated for Best Picture because Tom Hanks died on 9/11.
Yeah, except people now just say it for any non-blockbuster film nominated for Oscars.
Dividing these categories just furthers the anti-intellectual bent of the whole "Oscar bait" term.
 

Meows

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Oct 28, 2017
6,399
Titanic swept regardless of this category existing so of course it would win and it wouldn't be random. The question is which category would it have been nominated in.
It would have been nominated in both and won both. The award is kinda disrespectful to big movies that were good enough to, well, get nominated and win.
 

Not

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Oct 25, 2017
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JFC.

Do people actually think Wonder Woman or Black Panther deserve best pictures nominations?
Sure. They're both better movies than Three Billboards, The Post, Hacksaw Ridge, The Imitation Game, Birdman, American Hustle, Her, Argo, Les Miserables, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, Hugo, The Help, Avatar, The Blind Side, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Crash, Finding Neverland, Ray, American Beauty, Shakespeare in Love, The Thin Red Line, Good Will Hunting, Braveheart, Scent of a Woman,
 

Alexandros

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Oct 26, 2017
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I am surprised by the negative reaction to the new popular movie category. It seems like a neat idea to me.