Man, the way that you are coment on plagiarism using plagiarism is too meta for me to handle...
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IGN removes their Dead Cells Review, investigating plagiarism. (Update: Writer Responds)
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Yikes. I feel bad for the guy but honestly this is the outcome that should happen. Plagiarism, especially in journalism is pretty fucking bad.
What? No, that's a terrible excuse. From the time that we're kids writing essays, teachers hammered it into our brains NEVER to plagiarize. There's no excuse for this at all.
FIFA was on his own channel. (Didn't get caught)
Dead Cells was on IGNs. (Got caught)
Also it's possible unless a candidate isn't caught for plagiarism during the hiring process. The hiring manager won't go out looking for it which is how he got the NVC/Nintendo editor gig
Indeed. I not wished for him to be fired, but of course plagiarism is a serious problem for everythink with payed job.
As an occasional NVC listener, this isn't totally shocking to me. I always found Filip somewhat stilted and it felt like he was "performing" the podcast. He never seemed comfortable. This is total armchair psychology, but I feel like his plagiarism has more to do with a lack of confidence in his writing than trying to take a shortcut. Whatever his reasons, it's obviously not okay, but I think maybe this is why some people are feeling sympathy for him.
I think it's less of a "let's disrespect him by not even mentioning him by name" and more of a "let's not name drop him so he doesn't get harassed by a ton of people who want to dance on his figurative grave."Damn didn't even refer to him by name in the statement. IGN going the full
treatment.
Not that it will stop people from giving him grief since his name is already out there. But IGN isn't going to be a part of that.
What's with people feeling bad for the dude who stole another person's work?
It was entirely his fault.
It was entirely his fault.
Well yes. As I said it's a colossal undertaking, but it doesn't mean it's impossible. Finding the list of Dead Cells review is actually quite easy, simply hire a freelancer for $5 on Fiverr or something. However, screening them one by one should be quite monumental. For this case, checking the first minute of every review should be enough, it'll take some time but it's possible. I've just learned that this is Filip's first video review for IGN. I think a more thorough QC should've been applied before publishing.
That sounds like quite a task, but tbh that's something that my company would do every time we hire a new content creator.
Yeah I don't think anyone wants his life to go to complete shit and for him to never find succsss or hapienes again. I hope he learns a lesson and figures things out. But obviously IGN had to move on from him. Plagiarism is basically the worst thing a writer can do.
...I gotta say after finishing reading the tweet I was surprised you didn't demand Tina to marry Boomstick Gaming as well
Also yikes @ that Schreier tweet. That young gentleman has.. a lot of room for improvement to put it politely
Also yikes @ that Schreier tweet. That young gentleman has.. a lot of room for improvement to put it politely
Man, can't help but wonder what the hell he was thinking.
He must have been under some serious pressure like a deer in the headlights to try this.
Pulling something like this in this day and age is crazy when its easier than ever to get caught. Must have been desperate.
Turning in a bad review or none at all would have been a better option than throwing this blackmark on his career.
He must have been under some serious pressure like a deer in the headlights to try this.
Pulling something like this in this day and age is crazy when its easier than ever to get caught. Must have been desperate.
Turning in a bad review or none at all would have been a better option than throwing this blackmark on his career.
Trust me I'm not excusing it but you'd think that a journalist would have some background in journalism.
Hopefully now we can get back to some good, honest reviewing.
Can you explain what's wrong with the New Leaf review?
Filip if you need a job you can take Venom's place, you can't do any worse than what he wrote.
This is goddamn hilarious. You pretend that you care so much about the dude getting wronged, you can't even be bothered to spell his handle correctly.
Trying to get famous by acting all noble while riding on the controversy, eh? Hahah.
Do you think he actually read the review and not just the score?
Maybe it's time to finish that sitcom pilot about the sassy robot.
Where is Flip from, and is his background focused in writing? I think some of this has to do with the US having a poor education system, especially when it comes to writing.
From what I remember, growing up it was awful until I got into college. There were a lot of terrible writing assignments consisting of a forced topic that was difficult to work with unless you had an opinion or passion about the subject matter. The only other style was research based, involving pulling information from other sources and citing them. This conditioning probably results in disasters like this, where someone has trouble articulating strong opinions on things and when asked to express them in writing, resorts to...this, possibly not even knowing that plagerizim is not simply just copy pasting word for word.
From what I remember, growing up it was awful until I got into college. There were a lot of terrible writing assignments consisting of a forced topic that was difficult to work with unless you had an opinion or passion about the subject matter. The only other style was research based, involving pulling information from other sources and citing them. This conditioning probably results in disasters like this, where someone has trouble articulating strong opinions on things and when asked to express them in writing, resorts to...this, possibly not even knowing that plagerizim is not simply just copy pasting word for word.
For me personally, I watched him on youtube and was happy for him when he got his dream job. When he took over NVC there was a group of commenters who had it in for him from day one and I felt really sorry for him. It's very difficult to fill Jose's shoes, but it just felt like people didn't like him because he was a youtuber and young. Since then he has settled in and got more comfortable with the team. Then this happens. It's just the ultimate fuck up.
What's the issue here exactly? I'm assuming you just don't agree with the scores?Hopefully now we can get back to some good, honest reviewing.
No. That's plagiarism. He's presenting the same ideas in the same order from the source he is copying. Simply changing some words and altering the sentence structure a bit doesn't make the ideas his own.
Schreirer posted more in the twitter thread where the same thing happens. Again, the same ideas in the same order.
Yeah I was just thinking this. My degrees are in Exercise Science and Business Administration with a focus on Human Resource Management, and both my schools constantly reinforced how serious plagiarism and that even the suspicion of it could lead to being expelled. It seems to me that the degree in question is irrelevant; if you have one, then you know how to avoid plagiarizing, as if you didn't you wouldn't have graduated.
He's still a human and makes mistakes like the rest of us. He's also a parent and has a kid to look after.
I'm not condoning what he did wrong, he deserves to be punished and IGN did the right thing, he totally 100% put himself in this situation. In saying that I feel sorry for him as he's just majorly screwed himself over by taking the short cut instead of reaching out for help and not taking on more than he could handle.
...I gotta say after finishing reading the tweet I was surprised you didn't demand Tina to marry Boomstick Gaming as well
Also yikes @ that Schreier tweet. That young gentleman has.. a lot of room for improvement to put it politely
I got banned once from saying I don't know who the guy is.
While an open offer for a job is insane, it would be a very sweet gesture to use Boomstick's video review as the official IGN one, perhaps with an extra layer of polish in the edit or something.
Hopefully now we can get back to some good, honest reviewing.
This guy saw that Venom's post was starting to die down and decided to try and keep the cringe going.
I can't imagine anyone in the world thinking Halo 4 is a 9.8, not even 343 themselves.
???Hopefully now we can get back to some good, honest reviewing.
Is this a "I don't like these games, stop liking these games." post?
Opinions, how do they work?Hopefully now we can get back to some good, honest reviewing.
Besides New Leaf is beloved and deserves that score anyway.
This post hits the nail right on the head. I liked him on NVC but always felt that he came off as rehearsed. But your "performing" the podcast line is the much better descriptor. He was wrong and IGN did the right thing in letting him go because what he did was completely unacceptable. What I'm having a hard time with is the amount of schadenfreude and even glee that some folks on here have shown for this man losing his job.
He was wrong yes, he needed to be let go yes, but this doesn't make me happy. This outcome doesn't make me salivate at the mouth, this isn't a "victory" for me. It sucks that a young man with a family has shot his career half way to hell and in turn it has also set back IGN's reputation for years to come. Let me make one thing clear to some of you, they're no winners here.
Yes, it is.
And used one of the most beloved games on the 3DS to try and make his point. lol
It's your lucky day, cuz you don't need to imagine it. You can just read the opinions of the person who did the unimaginable. And your mind might be actually blown when you see Destructoid, Joystiq, Machnima, and others awarded the game perfect scores.
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