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IGN removes their Dead Cells Review, investigating plagiarism. (Update: Writer Responds)
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Plagiarism is an area where firing a writer is a completely valid, rational response. This isn't a "pitchfork mafia" situation because of a "mistake."
They even pulled his stream from last night, dude is super fired.
I thought they were just being sarcastic?
(If not...well I coudln't tell anymore...)
This 100%. I haven't followed IGN for a good few years so I don't know anything about the guy in question but if it was intentional he has to go. Unless there was a press release given to reviewers that we haven't seen and they both worked off that (which is still poor work) I can't think of a way it wasn't.
there are so few words in the english language, my man. writing exactly the same thing as others is more common than you think! let's not be hasty here!
So after watching the comparison video a lot of the examples provided are pretty weak, but a few of them are pretty damning. To me it looks like this is either straight up plagiarism of the YouTube video or copying the press release. Even if it is just copying the press release it's still not ok and the IGN reviewer should be reprimanded because that's lazy work (not to start a "lazy reviewers" bit). I suppose the only thing that would come of that is it also makes the YouTuber look bad for also being lazy and then making a fakse claim that IGN plagiarised his review.
But if they didn't both just copy a press release then to me this looks like IGN copied the YouTuber. While a few of the examples are weak, there are some that are very strong and hard to excuse.
But if they didn't both just copy a press release then to me this looks like IGN copied the YouTuber. While a few of the examples are weak, there are some that are very strong and hard to excuse.
Hahahaha I think this is a collateral reaction from what happened, I don't think is some press conspiracy tactic.
And who benefits from that? That's exactly what Big Thread Derailing wants. And we're playing right into their trap!
#StayWoke #Can'tHideTheTruth #StayOnTopic
Haha
That's good not at all what I was implying
Great Alex Jones gif and The Q is a crazy abstract cult they know nothing about the media just tea party practices
But hey you don't think that this helps everyone
New power in media
Revenue for everyone
Up the chain the story goes
YouTubers ,Games media control this newscycle this gives them traffic
That's my point
That's good not at all what I was implying
Great Alex Jones gif and The Q is a crazy abstract cult they know nothing about the media just tea party practices
But hey you don't think that this helps everyone
New power in media
Revenue for everyone
Up the chain the story goes
YouTubers ,Games media control this newscycle this gives them traffic
That's my point
It's amazing how people still spin anything to fit their own personal narratives.
the problem is that Jose was an amazing host that knew how to keep things moving along. Hell, he was the host during some of the worst times to cover Nintendo and he did it in a way that didn't come off as whining about Nintendo every week. I'm glad he got the gig at Nintendo, but I selfishly wish he didn't just because I really enjoyed all of his content when he was in the press.
The guy will almost certainly lose his job over this. Deservedly so. But as often with these situations thanks to social media etc, people tend to go overboard. Looking at this guys twitter, stuff on Reddit and on this forum it is now a shit storm of abuse (some pretty nasty over the top stuff too). You really would have to worry about his mental health. I am not sure if I could handle it if I were in his shoes. Losing his job is bad enough but having to deal with hundreds of comments screaming for his head. No thanks
10 million subs on YouTube and you think it's dying?
This forum really is a bubble.
It's the story of a guy plagiarizing a review.
And he'll be fired for it.
Nothing more.
Certainly not "win win" for him.
One thing you have to learn if you do anything in the games industry... Grow a thick skin. Very quickly.
And you're saying this having watched the video where the points are worded in the same order at the same time stamp.
All you people saying no big deal must have been students in my wife's English class. I have never seen such blatant shit going down than in her class. Two people turned in the same paper, word for word, and they tried to play it off like it was a coincidence that they just happened to write the same paper.
Lol, christ.
Lol, christ.
User Banned (3 Days): Posting conspiracy theories, vilifying an entire media outlet.
I don't think he should lose his job cause I'm not gonna sit here and pretend IGN is actually some type of place with integrity. They've been doing paid reviews since forever.
Edit - Ok, so obviously I crossed way over the line here. I'm in no position to be challenging anybody's integrity. I don't really believe what I wrote nor do I even particularly dislike IGN or anyone working there. On the contrary, I think their podcasts are quite good and they have some really talented personalities. You can see that in quite a few of them getting even biger opportunities elsewhere.
I never intended to vilify anybody but I suppose words can be more powerful and malicious when I don't think before I speak.
Edit - Ok, so obviously I crossed way over the line here. I'm in no position to be challenging anybody's integrity. I don't really believe what I wrote nor do I even particularly dislike IGN or anyone working there. On the contrary, I think their podcasts are quite good and they have some really talented personalities. You can see that in quite a few of them getting even biger opportunities elsewhere.
I never intended to vilify anybody but I suppose words can be more powerful and malicious when I don't think before I speak.
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Holy shit! I haven't really followed Filip besides hearing him on NVC, but he always seems like he's in over his head. This is still surprising as heck.
I must be getting old, because the race to get in the "sickest burn" just feels tiring to me now. Like... let's just not guys.
I must be getting old, because the race to get in the "sickest burn" just feels tiring to me now. Like... let's just not guys.
Already verified the "press release" possibility, not likely:
Plus, the structure is downright identical (no hyperbole). The wording itself cannot claim to be unrelated if you look at the transcript in the video's description.
No backup I suppose?..
Anyone working in any sort of journalistic medium should be well aware of the risk you take when you plagiarize. I can't sympathize with this guy at all.
You mean paid by the publisher? If so, what reviews are you referring to?
Pretty much. People are always talking shit about games journalism and for once they have an actual reason to be upset so they're gonna go in on this until he's let go, unfortunately people can't make a fair criticism and then call it a day.
Someone took the EA Mass Efffect IGN gif from the early 2010s seriously....
Watching that video, definitely some similar wordings, and the one with the identical time stamp is a yikes.
That said, they both barely seem like reviews. More like a reading of bullet points about the game, instead of any unique insight into what they liked/disliked about the game. The kind of info you literally could have gotten from anywhere, including as others have pointed out, from the game's press releases.
That said, they both barely seem like reviews. More like a reading of bullet points about the game, instead of any unique insight into what they liked/disliked about the game. The kind of info you literally could have gotten from anywhere, including as others have pointed out, from the game's press releases.
Define forever. I worked there 18 years ago, which was just a few years after they launched, and they weren't doing "paid reviews" then.
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