No, the world does not have too many people. There are, however, too many people living a western lifestyle. We would be absolutely fine with 7 billion people if we all lived like some Germanic farmer from 300 bc.
If it does then we totally deserve it. The world will recover once it kicks us out, eventually.
Capitalism is a hell of a system, making it possible to do all kinds of heinous shit and shifting any and all blame on faceless entities.I wish they would sue the fuck out of all the people responsible for suppressing the science and knowledge about this. scientists knew about this way back but petrol comapnies kept them quiet. fuck all of them. take their billions away they made and put the mto good use
It was hot af the last 4 summers here. Guess it depends on where you live in Europe :)That's not what climate change does. You are confusing weather with climate. Completely different things. Weather can always vary greatly from year to year and is no indicator of climate. Just because we have an extremely hot summer this year doesn't mean we need air conditioning. Last two summers were very cold and wet. It's not like "and now we see climate is done".
or our solar system gets another venus.If it does then we totally deserve it. The world will recover once it kicks us out, eventually.
I still don't understand how people like you and my brother CHOSE to live in the desert while the rest of us are actually trying to avoid death by the sun you guys actually live on the sun. Bonkers.
Related, here's a vid on how Climate scientists themselves are struggling to cope with what they know will happen.
What you're thinking of would be achievable via aerosol injections.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-six-ideas-to-limit-global-warming-with-solar-geoengineering
It comes with issues though, as do all solar geoengeneering solutions.
Unfortunately everyone reading my post right now will be dead before the planet experiences crises that would kill millions, so many will just shrug their shoulders and forget about this post. But they will inevitably happen. Our species is fundamentally destructive and we don't nearly care enough to radically alter our lifestyles to a point where it would be sustainable for the Earth.
If you really want to help, the biggest thing you could do right now is cut out all meat and dairy from your diets because animal agriculture is a HUGE contributor to climate change and instability. But how many people will realistically do that after reading my comment? Very few if any. People are selfish, even many of us reading this thread on Resetera.
Exactly. People will give up plastic straws to save the fish but won't give up eating fish to save the fish. They're willing to make sacrifices but only tiny inconsequential ones.
You scroll down to that video's comments and there's an army of degenerates saying climate change is a hoax.
This here is the real problem.
The question is how to replace 2 billion refugees? We've seen countries completely cut their borders off from a few hundred thousand refugees. Just the sheer economic cost of 2 billion refugees alone, how do you even fathom that.
America has already adopted the wry man for himself model of global governance, it's not long before the rest of the world does as well.
To be honest, this scares me, to the point where I wonder whether or not it's better to live on and try to adapt to a life in that climate, or if it's better to just end it and not have to suffer its consequences.
We won't stop it, we won't even try, especially with the rise of right-wing fascists across the world.
Go talk to someone if this is your reaction to the news. Genuinely.Yeah it really just makes you wonder if it's worth living. I see less and less point to it everyday with this kind of stuff coming out.
this sounds more like depression than concern over climate change. One way or another the earth will cease to be hospitable for life, that doesn't mean it's not worth living - you just have to create or find that meaning yourself. It's not like this is the first time in history humans are facing harsh times, difference being that things on average are better now than ever before.Yeah it really just makes you wonder if it's worth living. I see less and less point to it everyday with this kind of stuff coming out.
Also people, please remember this is a thing:
Avoiding meat and dairy is 'single biggest way' to reduce your impact on Earth
And it's like a scientific consensus, not a vegan agenda thing.
Oh for sure you'll see closed borders and conflicts over diminishing resources that will make ww2 look like a kindergarden spat.
Related, here's a vid on how Climate scientists themselves are struggling to cope with what they know will happen.
And it's like a scientific consensus, not a vegan agenda thing.
On personal level, the biggest way is to not have kids. A friend of mine avoids flights and meat, but have two kids. I could fly with the Airbus 320 from my town to London back and forth four times every week till I die, and my impact is still significantly less than his.Also people, please remember this is a thing:
Avoiding meat and dairy is 'single biggest way' to reduce your impact on Earth
And it's like a scientific consensus, not a vegan agenda thing.
Admittedly many vegans, including some of my very closest friends, are very absolutist about it. Others bear their extreme belief as a standard, which can also be off-putting.I wonder where the vegan hatred comes from, anyway.
Oh. I actually don't wonder, I know where it's from: The right. Sponsored by the same people bashing climate change science and any meaningful social progress. But if one has to change one's own life, that ends, better mock those scary vegans instead, easier than changing.
Pretty sure it's a given fact that having a kid is the worst thing for the environment, for your finances, etc etc etc. That has always been the case.On personal level, the biggest way is to not have kids. A friend of mine avoids flights and meat, but have two kids. I could fly with the Airbus 320 from my town to London back and forth four times every week till I die, and my impact is still significantly less than his.
It's better to push the change on political level instead. Each successfully implemented regulatory framework could save billions of tons of CO2.
Well, that sucks. Time to post this one again.
"The planet is fine. The people are fucked".
Climate change isn't the result of people as a whole being selfish, it's the result of the rich greedy assholes who control our governments and are addicted to dirty energy profits. The solution is not people magically all giving up straws like that would fucking matter, it's getting rid of the selfish 1% who are destroying the world for their own temporary profit.
Making an effort yourself and kicking the elite aren't necessarily mutually exclusive :)Yeah yeah, kick the elite. It's the favorite song of people who don't really wanna make any effort thmselves.
On personal level, the biggest way is to not have kids. A friend of mine avoids flights and meat, but have two kids. I could fly with the Airbus 320 from my town to London back and forth four times every week till I die, and my impact is still significantly less than his.
It's better to push the change on political level instead. Each successfully implemented regulatory framework could save billions of tons of CO2.
Making an effort yourself and kicking the elite aren't necessarily mutually exclusive :)
Go talk to someone if this is your reaction to the news. Genuinely.
this sounds more like depression than concern over climate change. One way or another the earth will cease to be hospitable for life, that doesn't mean it's not worth living - you just have to create or find that meaning yourself. It's not like this is the first time in history humans are facing harsh times, difference being that things on average are better now than ever before.
The elite got a kicking in America? Where the fuck do you get that idea from? They're making more money than ever and the income disparity is greater than ever and those in power are more in the hand of the rich than ever.Depends how you define "the elite" since they got quite the kicking in America and Italy and now both countries are run by shitheads.