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Planet at risk of heading towards irreversible 'hothouse' conditions, new report says
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Exactly. People will give up plastic straws to save the fish but won't give up eating fish to save the fish. They're willing to make sacrifices but only tiny inconsequential ones.
With the amount of marine life that's gonna die from acidification? Nope.
Yeah... levity, however dark, is probably not appropriate here :(
Took this pic during my commute home today in phoenix.. even by phoenix standards this is insane.
Not to mention, last week my area had one of the biggest dust storms in the last decade with winds 85mph+. I lost two trees, three windows, a chunk of my solar panels, and portion of my roof.
Climate change man
Not to mention, last week my area had one of the biggest dust storms in the last decade with winds 85mph+. I lost two trees, three windows, a chunk of my solar panels, and portion of my roof.
Climate change man
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The question is how to replace 2 billion refugees? We've seen countries completely cut their borders off from a few hundred thousand refugees. Just the sheer economic cost of 2 billion refugees alone, how do you even fathom that.
Been wondering, why can't this be mitigated by creating a nuclear winter by (carefully) blowing off one or more nuke somewhere safe (if there is)? As I understand doing that in a high enough amount would cool down the whole planet a few degrees.
I figure killing life on the planet to save life on the planet isn't getting you very far.
Cooling the planet in that way would block out the sun. It'd destroy all life on the planet, but it would be colder.
The amount of nukes needed to set off nuclear winter would most certainly create such amounts of radiation that would render most of the planet's surface uninhabitable. Not to mention nuclear winter would not get rid of the CO2 problem.
I still don't understand how people like you and my brother CHOSE to live in the desert while the rest of us are actually trying to avoid death by the sun you guys actually live on the sun. Bonkers.
ok, but what does any of this even mean
i guess we could attack the political systems that allow for rampant pollution, but yeah nuking ourselves is probably easier
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Man temperatures in northern parts of Norway we are talking close to the Russian border exceeded 35c that's 95 degrees Fahrenheit which has never happened before.
Also the extreme heat in southern Europe right now you had civil defense in Italy handing out water bottles, the effects of climate change is happening faster than anyone anticipated.
Also the extreme heat in southern Europe right now you had civil defense in Italy handing out water bottles, the effects of climate change is happening faster than anyone anticipated.
To cause a nuclear winter you'd have to detonate a shit ton of nukes. That would just fuck up things even more.
People live in phoenix because they can't afford to live on the coast in California. We sacrifice the 9 months of 100+ highs for 3 months of coastal weather. Or its because we can carry a concealed weapon without any license and can't stand a liberal state.
Heat doesn't phase me at this point but at 120F, you could die in an hour exposed/ The arizona sun is no joke. A few years ago my sunglasses melted to the dashboard of my car.
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Oh I see,wasn't aware you needed to nuke so much. Thought that just setting of 1-3 nukes would be enough and that the radiation issue could be mitigated as well somehow (by e.g. using H-bombs but not sure if H bombs are able to create nuclear winters).
Didn't WW2 nuclear bombings and possibly Chenorbyl cause minor cooldowns?
It's okay guys. With Trump hell-bent on causing war with anything that moves, Brexit round the corner, trade wars galore, people trying to blow up presidents with drones etc. there's a high chance none of us will even be alive to experience this.
The world is fucked up in a lot of ways lately.
The world is fucked up in a lot of ways lately.
A nuclear winter is basically the equivalent of a meteor that wiped out the dinosaur era except it'd be completely global. It is a winter because so much dust and debris blocks out the sun. Radiation would be a lesser concern, it'd kill any photosynthetic life on the planet. The "winter" fallout can't be localized, maybe there is some stuff w/ H-bombs but like I said, it'd have to be like a dinosaur extinction event to make a difference.
By the time the sea temperatures actually dropped, most life on the planet would be gone. It'll take centuries to radiate all that heat. It took over a century to just get it to this point and that was active heating with the industrial revolution. Passive cooling? gotta be like 200-300 years
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I mean, alright but we knew this since at least 30+ years.
The problem is many people don't want to change, sure they want to avoid this, but they don't want to change anything themselves.
The list of things everyone could do (and could have done already) starts with don't eat so much meat (it's fucking unhealthy and disgusting anyways) and don't use an AC if you don't really need to (aka if you're a healthy young or middle-aged person) and hundreds of other things to save energy and resources.
Krakatoa was 4x the Tsar Bomba and it took around five years for the climate to go back to normal.
Nukes would never work.
That's not what climate change does. You are confusing weather with climate. Completely different things. Weather can always vary greatly from year to year and is no indicator of climate. Just because we have an extremely hot summer this year doesn't mean we need air conditioning. Last two summers were very cold and wet. It's not like "and now we see climate is done".
Future generations will loathe us and wonder what we were doing that was more important
Strap in
Strap in
One of the reasons why I didn't want kids. Unfortunately, my gf talked me into it, and we are living in an overcrowded Europe, which will turn into a living hell for them if the shit hits the fan.
I just hope that the scenario predicted plays out over a century at least. Perhaps my children will then realize that bringing kids in to the world would be a bad idea
I just hope that the scenario predicted plays out over a century at least. Perhaps my children will then realize that bringing kids in to the world would be a bad idea
A while ago I read an article on how some climate scientists are having mental issues due to the severity of the climate change situation (and society's inability to listen). So yeah, I think we'll have steadily worsening news coming. We deserve everything though.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/veganera-ot-eat-your-veggies.1099/
And just to add insult to injury, plastic straws are insignificant in the larger picture. Fishing nets are the real issue, amounting to around 50% of the aste in the oceans. If you want to save the pceans, stop eating fish.
People needs to start taking their owns choices more seriously, and the media needs to start reporting on the things that will actually make a difference. We need to cut our meat and dairy consumption. Going all in wouod help tremendously, but just cutting down to having some meat free days would make an impact.
It's really frustrating how ridiculously lax the EU is on countries like my own (the Netherlands) when it comes to failing to reach emission targets. The Commission should be fining them until our government gets it into their thick fucking skull that we are destroying our future.
The general public will become defeatist so downplaying the effects is the best thing they can do.
Climate change isn't the result of people as a whole being selfish, it's the result of the rich greedy assholes who control our governments and are addicted to dirty energy profits. The solution is not people magically all giving up straws like that would fucking matter, it's getting rid of the selfish 1% who are destroying the world for their own temporary profit.
What you're thinking of would be achievable via aerosol injections.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-six-ideas-to-limit-global-warming-with-solar-geoengineering
It comes with issues though, as do all solar geoengeneering solutions.
That's not wrong per se, but from the point of view of the rest of the world, westerners are the greedy 1%. If everyone was at our level of consumption, the oceans would boil.
To be honest, this scares me, to the point where I wonder whether or not it's better to live on and try to adapt to a life in that climate, or if it's better to just end it and not have to suffer its consequences.
It would also help if we stopped playing videogames and reduce the amount of electricity we use in general.