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LiK

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Oct 25, 2017
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This won't just affect GotG. Future possible crossovers would be affected if he leaves. Recasting would be awful. He brought so much to the character.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't understand why people are getting "hype" about this development, and saying Dave is "winning."

This is getting increasingly ugly and public, and the longer this drags out, I'd imagine the less likely Disney will want to seem as "caving".

Don't know if your comment is serious but this just makes me think that GOTG will end up losing a director, actor, and future sequels at this point.
It was serious. People here getting hyped up like Disney is one to be fucked with. As if they're going to have the terms and tenor with which they protect The Mouse dictated to them. That shits not happening boys and girls, and many of you are going to find out with broken hearts. I'm about 99% sure that they'll give the entire franchise it's walking papers before being told how they are going to run their company and set their standards and use of discipline with people under their employ. Neither Marvel Studios nor the MCU are dependent on the current iteration of the Guardians. In many ways, they've served their purpose and are largely expendable at this point so be careful what you wish for.

Keep on pushing this and the death toll will be more than Gunn. Rest assured of that. And that may be what has to happen here, but this is very, very unlikely to end with Gunn being rehired people need to understand that if not respect or be content with it. Unfair shit happens to people every day and will continue to. Sorry for the bad news and it's not what any of us want, but sober perspective is sober. We don't always get what we want and life isn't fair.

Let all of this shit be a lesson to avoid doing and saying shit online or on video that can catch back up to you at the worst times and impact your career and pursuit of happiness. Go scrub your Grams, Twitters, and Facebooks of questionable shit. No reason to have it out there attached to your name. Try not to be an edge lord; those antics tend to be unfunny and age very poorly.
 

SixtyFourBlades

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Oct 27, 2017
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I dunno if I can watch a re-casted Drax. Dave is perfect in the role and I would be sad to see him go. GOTG & GOTG2 are among my favorites films in the MCU and this whole thing is just heart breaking honestly.
 

OnPorpoise

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's almost like Bautista read the part in the Variety article about Disney noticing none of the cast said they would quit and decided to fix that.
 

xyla

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Oct 27, 2017
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Germany
This is accelerating quite fast in a direction, where I won't give Disney money ever again.

Star Wars and Marvel be damned.
 

Garlador

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Oct 30, 2017
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I don't think they've made peace with it yet. They've just been silent while they try to figure out what to do from here.
Disney didn't expect the backlash, that I think is true. I think they expected SOME, but the "manageable" kind. The "this will go away in a week" kind. Sure, people complained when Edgar Wright was let go or Terrance Howard was recast, but they didn't have the whole cast of the movie going "you made the wrong move" with 360,000+ fans requesting he be reinstated while journalists and movie directors weigh in on the bad faith arguments and smear campaign that led to his termination in the first place creating a caustic and toxic work environment for any and all movie makers.

They expected a return to normalcy by now and actors like Bautista not letting it go and holding their feet to the fire is definitely NOT something they were anticipating. "He's under contract" they thought. "He'll fall in line." Yeah, but he's also using his platform to make them look FAR worse than if they'd just ignored the initial Gunn harassment campaign in the first place.
 

CloudWolf

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Oct 26, 2017
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Josh Brolin is gone from the MCU after next year though. Robert Downey Jr. is a better argument, dude was literally blacklisted from Hollywood for years because of his addiction problems.
 

ZattMurdock

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Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
Josh Brolin is gone from the MCU after next year though. Robert Downey Jr. is a better argument, dude was literally blacklisted from Hollywood for years because of his addiction problems.

Brolin won't be going anywhere. He's Cable now, and I'm damn sure that the plan is to integrate him in the MCU as him. How it'd be explained I have no idea, and I honestly couldn't care less right now.
 

NotLiquid

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Oct 25, 2017
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To be fair RDJ was brought on board during the Paramount years. By the time Disney got their hands on things he was a reformed superstar household name and it was thought that the MCU literally couldn't exist without him. They've obviously been trying to get rid of him ever since (though more so for the bills they have to pay rather than controversy). Though yes, I do agree there's enough skeletons in the closet for this company that Disney are still looking like self righteous hypocrites.
 

CloudWolf

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Oct 26, 2017
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Brolin won't be going anywhere. He's Cable now, and I'm damn sure that the plan is to integrate him in the MCU as him. How it'd be explained I have no idea, and I honestly couldn't care less right now.
Even if they choose to integrate Deadpool as he is now into the MCU (which I don't believe actually, if anything Deadpool will get his own separate series of movies), Brolin can be easily written out. They can even have Deadpool make a joke like "Hey, where did that big, angry guy go?"
 

Soundscream

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Nov 2, 2017
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To be fair RDJ was brought on board during the Paramount years. By the time Disney got their hands on things he was a reformed superstar household name and it was thought that the MCU literally couldn't exist without him. They've obviously been trying to get rid of him ever since (though more so for the bills they have to pay rather than controversy). Though yes, I do agree there's enough skeletons in the closet for this company that Disney are still looking like self righteous hypocrites.

Definitely

"I can say there's been a lot of internal discussion about [Song of the South]. And at some point we're going to do something about it. I don't know when, but we will. We know we want people to see Song of the South because we realize it's a big piece of company history, and we want to do it the right way." – Dave Bossert "

http://www.post-movie.net/disney-producer-encouraging-about-song-of-the-south-release/
 

StarCreator

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Oct 25, 2017
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It is interesting to me that Bautista's line in the sand isn't Gunn being brought back as director, but his script to be used. I'm not sure meeting that low bar is really going to solve anything. Gunn will still be persona non grata unless Disney actually retracts their judgement of him.

Brolin won't be going anywhere. He's Cable now, and I'm damn sure that the plan is to integrate him in the MCU as him. How it'd be explained I have no idea, and I honestly couldn't care less right now.
If they do somehow integrate Deadpool into the MCU, I think Cable and Thanos look different enough that it's not a big deal.
 

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To be fair RDJ was brought on board during the Paramount years. By the time Disney got their hands on things he was a reformed superstar household name and it was thought that the MCU literally couldn't exist without him. They've obviously been trying to get rid of him ever since (though more so for the bills they have to pay rather than controversy). Though yes, I do agree there's enough skeletons in the closet for this company that Disney are still looking like self righteous hypocrites.

To layer on top of that, the only reason RDJ got the Iron Man job is because Mel Gibson put up the insurance money in case he relapsed again.
 

ZattMurdock

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Oct 26, 2017
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More like you're not actually going to boycott since you can't even bother to do something meaningless like not have an entirely Marvel themed avatar.

That's a LOT of assumptions about someone you don't know. I won't be watching Marvel Studios or Disney films in movie theaters if Gunn doesn't come back. And even if he does and I support it again, it won't be the same ever again. But hey, let's talk about how you clearly know more about how I'm taking this than I do.

nah, its just the equivalent of that old screenshot of that steamgroup about modern warfare 2

I didn't get the reference.
 

Wrighteous86

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Oct 27, 2017
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Even if they choose to integrate Deadpool as he is now into the MCU (which I don't believe actually, if anything Deadpool will get his own separate series of movies), Brolin can be easily written out. They can even have Deadpool make a joke like "Hey, where did that big, angry guy go?"

Even if they COULD write Brolin out, they wouldn't. Which is the point. They are hypocrites and only fire Gunn because Right-Wing Twitter manipulated them.
 

Chiaroscuro

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well I guess integrity isn't a family value for the house of M.

Massive kudos to Bautista. He seems to be the friend (and man) we all deserve. My respect for him rose a lot.
 

xyla

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Oct 27, 2017
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But Disney isn't accelerating shit. They already made their statement and peace with it.

But the actors haven't and I haven't. I don't wanna be reminded every time I'm watching a Disney movie that Disney and Marvel don't have enough backbone to stand up to a single stupid cyber nazi with a Twitter account to defend one of their own. It's not even worth a statement or an investigation. He was once a pillar in their plan to continue the MCU for another decade. In a day he was removed.

And if Bautista risks his career to draw this line in the sand, the least I can do is to stop giving a company like that money anymore. It's not gonna be fun, but there's enough other means of entertainment around.
 

PhoncipleBone

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's a LOT of assumptions about someone you don't know. I won't be watching Marvel Studios or Disney films in movie theaters if Gunn doesn't come back. And even if he does and I support it again, it won't be the same ever again. But hey, let's talk about how you clearly know more about how I'm taking this than I do.
What happened to the full boycott?
 

Ashhong

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Oct 26, 2017
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Why are u guys talking about Brolin as if Disney is going to fire him to not look like hypocrites? That's just not going to happen. It's different with Gunn because he's just the director/writer. He's not a star. If they cared enough they would fire whoever they want, but they don't want to. It's that simple.

Also I've always thought Disney would use Gunns script anyway. Cool of Dave to have his back, but there's nothing to stress about there imo
 

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That's a LOT of assumptions about someone you don't know. I won't be watching Marvel Studios or Disney films in movie theaters if Gunn doesn't come back. And even if he does and I support it again, it won't be the same ever again. But hey, let's talk about how you clearly know more about how I'm taking this than I do.



I didn't get the reference.
Waiting to see it after its in theaters isnt what you said before.

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"Dropping MCU altogether" to waiting for streaming/bluray?
 

ZattMurdock

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Oct 26, 2017
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What happened to the full boycott?

It's very much still on. Questioning if I will or not boycott is pointless though, isn't it? Call me out if I don't, not keep teasing me before I do anything.

Waiting to see it after its in theaters isnt what you said before.

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"Dropping MCU altogether" to waiting for streaming/bluray?

I can do that. Will I burn my eyes if my friends and acquaintances are watching and I'm around? Nope. Will I call them out on their bullshit? Yes. Will I be spending money like I've been the last ten years? Fuck no. I still think this "Gotcha" bullshit is stupid as fuck, and I'd like it to stop.
 

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It's very much still on. Questioning if I will or not boycott is pointless though, isn't it? Call me out if I don't, not keep teasing me before I do anything.
Waiting to see a movie outside of theaters is not "dropping the MCU altogether" though.

That is still actively supporting Disney/Marvel and giving them your money.
 

ZattMurdock

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Oct 26, 2017
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Waiting to see a movie outside of theaters is not "dropping the MCU altogether" though.

That is still actively supporting Disney/Marvel and giving them your money.

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You and others here have a thing of trying to bait me that I will never understand. What an waste of fucking time.

Always thought it looked silly.

I've picked the avatar precisely so you'd think it looks silly. Mission accomplished.
 

hordak

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Oct 31, 2017
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If the entire guardians crew do that, that'll basically force Disney to come to their senses. I really hope they do. It'd be such a nice thing to happen amidst all the shittery.

Hope the rest of the cast threatens to walk too. Disney can't do shit if they want to make money off GotG.

Wow. Good shit. Imagine if they try recasting him.

unfortunately since he is covered in makeup, he, groot and rocket would be the easiest to recast imho. You would just need a big buff guy who is bald. Yes, it wouldn't be the same, but his bluff wouldn't be nearly as powerful as Pratt or Saldana threatening to quit. Ironically Bautista would have the most to lose since Pratt, Diesel and Zaldana have other franchises and Bradley Cooper, well he's bradley cooper.
 

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You and others here have a thing of trying to bait me that I will never understand. What an waste of fucking time.
Noticing you changed your boycott from done with the MCU altogether to waiting for home video/streaming isnt baiting. You can't make a proclamation of a boycott then scale it back without expecting to be asked about it lol.
 

ZattMurdock

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Noticing you changed your boycott from done with the MCU altogether to waiting for home video/streaming isnt baiting. You can't make a proclamation of a boycott then scale it back without expecting to be asked about it lol.

I am boycottying if Gunn doesn't come back. I won't be buying their stuff. I might download their shit and watch with friends eventually, but not as how I used to for the last ten years. I didn't scale back. Stop with the pointless arguing or telling me what to do.