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killerrin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,238
Toronto
It was better for the Liberals to let Ford happen versus presenting the NDP as a better alternative because they assume it'll swing back to them in the next election. Part this mess is on them for letting it happen. Stupid fucking people just waver between Liberal and PC and don't take any other option given to them, despite the fact that the actual vote share in Ontario swings more left than right.

My district:
PICKERING-UXBRIDGE
56/56 polls reported
Candidate Votes Share
Peter Bethlenfalvy
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PC

22,447
42.20%
Nerissa Cariño
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NDP

17,029
32.01%
Ibrahim Daniyal
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LIB*

10,851
20.40%
Adam Narraway
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GRN

2,105
3.96%
Brendan Reilly
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LTN

273
0.51%

Look, about 23,000 votes leaning right versus about 30,000 leaning left. But look who's got power. It's this, but province-wide. What a fucking disaster.

The previous party in power and the electorate that imagines it to be a two-party system are all a bunch of fuckwits, and this is what they brought on in their idiocy: wannabe provincial fascism and far-right dissolution of governing bodies.

And we're only a month or two into this shitstorm. What a mess, ugh.

You think that's bad, look at my fucking riding. 3 way split and the PCs won by 176 votes. This will never not piss me off.

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lunarworks

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,169
Toronto
Trump gets away with his bullshit because the US media barely pushes back against him. Hopefully the Canadian media shows a spine. I know CityNews isn't taking his bullshit.

Also, I'm still amused a media scrum is only a Canadian thing. Harper tried to neutralize those too.
She was the incumbent.

Also personally I'd have taken her over Ford any day.
Wynne wasn't the problem. I liked her. (Well, up until that bizarre late campaign speech.) All the recent failings of the Liberal party were dumped on her, though.
 

killerrin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,238
Toronto
Trump gets away with his bullshit because the US media barely pushes back against him. Hopefully the Canadian media shows a spine. I know CityNews isn't taking his bullshit.

Also, I'm still amused a media scrum is only a Canadian thing. Harper tried to neutralize those too.

Wynne wasn't the problem. I liked her. (Well, up until that bizarre late campaign speech.) All the recent failings of the Liberal party were dumped on her, though.

The stupid thing is that that bizarre late campaign speech where she conceded defeat ACTUALLY GAINED HER VOTES! Like WTF Ontario Electorate.
 

Pandaman

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
1,710
Weaponizing fear of the NDP.
Not that the PCs didn't screw things up even worse after them, of course.
nobody fears the NDP. The NDP will never win, all they will ever be is a parasite. Ontario handed them every conceivable possible advantage in this last election and they still failed, they need to be recognized as the failures they are and their supporters need to be chased out. What kind of a joke of a party complains that the only reason they 'lost' is that they couldn't magically absorb literally all of another parties voter base as if that's not an insane pipe dream. Shameless puerile nonsense.
 

Deleted member 25709

User Requested Account Closure
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,046
Look, about 23,000 votes leaning right versus about 30,000 leaning left. But look who's got power. It's this, but province-wide. What a fucking disaster.

The previous party in power and the electorate that imagines it to be a two-party system are all a bunch of fuckwits, and this is what they brought on in their idiocy: wannabe provincial fascism and far-right dissolution of governing bodies.

And we're only a month or two into this shitstorm. What a mess, ugh.

You think that's bad, look at my fucking riding. 3 way split and the PCs won by 176 votes. This will never not piss me off.

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Fuck this electoral system, Christ.

Check out these close ridings in Scarborough. Guildwood almost went to a Toronto cop under investigation for threatening someone after asking why he was avoiding debates. Doug Ford doesn't actually have the popular support in the suburbs many people including himself claim to have. These 2 ridings could have easily went NDP.

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Joeku

Member
Oct 26, 2017
23,477
nobody fears the NDP. The NDP will never win, all they will ever be is a parasite. Ontario handed them every conceivable possible advantage in this last election and they still failed, they need to be recognized as the failures they are and their supporters need to be chased out. What kind of a joke of a party complains that the only reason they 'lost' is that they couldn't magically absorb literally all of another parties voter base as if that's not an insane pipe dream. Shameless puerile nonsense.
This is absolute horseshit. Where the fuck are you getting this from? The final days of the Liberal party throwing NDP members under the bus should tell you what you need to know, so what the fuck?

The voting numbers speak for them-fucking-selves. See below.

Check out these close ridings in Scarborough. Guildwood almost went to a Toronto cop under investigation for threatening someone after asking why he was avoiding debates. Doug Ford doesn't actually have the popular support in the suburbs many people including himself claim to have. These 2 ridings could have easily went NDP.

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Barf.
 

Deleted member 25709

User Requested Account Closure
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,046
Almost forgot about Rouge Park. I can't believe 4 out of 6 Scarborough ridings could've went to the NDP had people rallied for them but no, the votes were split. Imagine that only ~40% of voters in Scarborough supported Doug Ford.

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DrEvil

Developer
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,647
Canada
So I discovered something interesting.

If you report a twitter account, it asks you to include tweets in your report to justify your submission.

Apparently that tool shows deleted tweets.

If you go to http://www.twitter.com/ontarionewsnow - it shows that the account has two tweets.

Well, this is not the case

These were mysteriously deleted:

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
Breaking news at this hour. @Ryan_Lever has been fired from his job at Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel in Sudbury.

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
BREAKING: @Ryan_Lever served as a dishwasher at Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel in Sudbury before being fired today.

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel management fired dishwasher @Ryan_Lever after it was learned that Mr. Lever had broken over 1,000 dishes. ...

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
It was also discovered that @Ryan_Lever smoked meth at work and screwed a fat chick on the salad bar. #BreakingNews

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel management was also disturbed to discover @Ryan_Lever is, in fact, a male prostitute named @SudburyStud. #Sudbury

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
Source: @Ryan_Lever was seen smoking crystal meth outside Howard Johnson of Sudbury following his termination by management.



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wonder what they have against Ryan Lever.. and the "screwed a fat chick on the salad bar" is real quality journalism.
 

Deleted member 2625

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,596
Toronto already said no to Ford, why do you think he's trying to fuck them over with slashing their city council in half in the middle of elections?

Sorry, I was being too glib – what I meant was, won't fly in Queen's Park. I've worked there.

DrEvil that is extremely strange, and I'm gonna show it to some people I know
 

killerrin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,238
Toronto
nobody fears the NDP. The NDP will never win, all they will ever be is a parasite. Ontario handed them every conceivable possible advantage in this last election and they still failed, they need to be recognized as the failures they are and their supporters need to be chased out. What kind of a joke of a party complains that the only reason they 'lost' is that they couldn't magically absorb literally all of another parties voter base as if that's not an insane pipe dream. Shameless puerile nonsense.

Oh fuck off with this. Why is it that everything is always the fault of the NDP. "Oh NDP Supporters"... "Don't vote NDP, the Conservatives will win". "Lend your vote to us because you have no chance of winning.", "I know we have no chance of winning, but you have an even less chance. Vote for us", "your platform is far too extremist. The electorate wont vote for you. Vote for us because we are the moderate center", "Why did you take votes from us. Now the Conservatives Won".

Every. Single. Fucking. Time. It's always the NDP's fault in the eyes of Liberals. We are expected to share our votes with the Liberals no matter what no questions asked. To be unofficial members of a party that doesn't share our views. And yet the moment we fight back when the Liberals drop the ball and have no chance of being elected the Liberals can't even return the fucking favour to prevent the very boogyman they used against us for years. And in fact they put roadblocks to ensure their boogyman wins. It's bullshit, plain and simple.

Anyhow we're not talking about the NDP taking literally every single vote from the Liberals. The margins between the NDP and the PCs in all the key ridings were so incredibly tiny. We're talking less than 10,000 votes total to completely flip the election to a Minority. A number that would have easily been achieved if the Liberals didn't pull the shit they did in the final days of the election after already conceding defeat.

And if the end result was that the Liberals lost all but 2 of their seats while still having a million votes, then maybe they will learn their lesson on how trash this voting system is like the Greens and NDP learned a long time ago. Hopefully BC and PEI actually go through with fixing this broken electoral system so we can take out the stupid fear mongering arguments against PR in this country.
 
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LukeOP

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,749
This is what every reporter should do. Call them out to their faces. Directly. Every single time.

Fascists deserve no benefit of the doubt.

That's not civil though.

I heard Ford got in because many liberals where upset about the lack of change occurring with the old leadership.

I guess they'll be seeing a lot of change now?
 

Lexxism

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,806
Toronto
The stupid thing is that that bizarre late campaign speech where she conceded defeat ACTUALLY GAINED HER VOTES! Like WTF Ontario Electorate.
Seriously. The momentum that NDP got went down after she conceded defeat. It was definitely intentional so that the PC will win and they got a chance to win again in 4 years. I seriously hate party first before country (province) first mindset.
 

killerrin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,238
Toronto
That's not civil though.

I heard Ford got in because many liberals where upset about the lack of change occurring with the old leadership.

I guess they'll be seeing a lot of change now?

It had nothing to do with the lack of change. There was plenty change in the form of Pharmacare for under 25 & over 60, Climate Change, Minimum Wage Increases, Increased OSAP Grants, Progressive Education programs, An unprecedented provincial wide transit build out, ect.

Where they screwed up was they Privatized Hydro, signed into crappy Hydro Contracts which had the result of skyrocketing rates, increased "taxes" through Carbon Pricing, and Sex Education (whose mere existence pissed off and galvanized the Conservative base). Plus 15 years of Leadership, Scandals and Corruption. It was their time to go no matter what, and they helped the OPCs burn the NDP bridge in the final days of the election to ensure a Ford win. Fearing that the NDP with all of its social policy announcements would actually be likable and stay in power for a couple terms
 
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SixPointEight

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,287
That's not civil though.

I heard Ford got in because many liberals where upset about the lack of change occurring with the old leadership.

I guess they'll be seeing a lot of change now?

They could've made an Inanimate Rod their lead and they would've won.

The Inanimate Rod would have been a better option.
 

Parch

Member
Nov 6, 2017
7,980
This 'fake news' nonsense is such garbage and bad neighbor influence. Ford creates a fabricated news network to spread his propaganda, and they've got the nerve to call that the REAL news? He expects to get away with avoiding ACTUAL media? Bullshit. That is not democracy.
 

FPX

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,273
So I discovered something interesting.

If you report a twitter account, it asks you to include tweets in your report to justify your submission.

Apparently that tool shows deleted tweets.

If you go to http://www.twitter.com/ontarionewsnow - it shows that the account has two tweets.

Well, this is not the case

These were mysteriously deleted:

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
Breaking news at this hour. @Ryan_Lever has been fired from his job at Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel in Sudbury.

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
BREAKING: @Ryan_Lever served as a dishwasher at Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel in Sudbury before being fired today.

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel management fired dishwasher @Ryan_Lever after it was learned that Mr. Lever had broken over 1,000 dishes. ...

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
It was also discovered that @Ryan_Lever smoked meth at work and screwed a fat chick on the salad bar. #BreakingNews

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel management was also disturbed to discover @Ryan_Lever is, in fact, a male prostitute named @SudburyStud. #Sudbury

Ontario News Now @OntarioNewsNow
Source: @Ryan_Lever was seen smoking crystal meth outside Howard Johnson of Sudbury following his termination by management.



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wonder what they have against Ryan Lever.. and the "screwed a fat chick on the salad bar" is real quality journalism.

That HAS to be tweets of whoever was sitting on the twitter account before I think. Then scrubbed before the government propoganda machine was launched...Though, the account's page says they've joined twitter July 2018. Maybe when accounts change ownership, there's a thing on twitter's side to make it "official" so previous holder can't make a claim of ownership, but that tool still pulls tweets from previous ownership?

Either that or whoever the gov hired to run it went rogue and was swiftly dealt with before it was launched to public/anyone noticed.
 

Damisa Sarki

Alt-Account
Banned
Jul 19, 2018
158
Wynne lost this election. A lot of people were still salty over Hydro One being sold and prices going up.
 

Chalphy

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,561
Looks like Ford is doubling down on shutting out the media. What a complete low life.