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I’m a WNBA player. Men won’t stop challenging me to play one-on-one (WaPo)
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I remember reading that. The mentality that people off the streets can compete with athletes that have reached the pinnacle of their sport is just hilarious.
Met a cool brazilian guy at a festival, who lives in europe. He's a tall black guy and on one festival day he had a Tshirt on saying "No, i don't play basketball".
Oh, that is really good.
Reminds me of my Kickbox trainer. He looks like a slim dork with receding hairline and dresses also a bit strange, but when we start sparring, that guy is just a mean killing machine. You would never guess what he can do.
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She hates the toxic masculinity aspect. I've talked with top tier gamers in fighting games or rhythm games casually, and have dropped things like "it would be cool to play against/with you". I think she's tired of the sentiment that "oh I'm a man so I have a shot". There's a clear difference between the two. I got matched up in casual matches with a few of the top quake 3 players back in the day and it was fascinating playing against them and seeing them operate.
All of this being said I wouldn't just drop a request or question like that randomly unless I was having a friendly conversation, and again there's a difference between being impressed and appreciating someone's skill and thinking you can take them.
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The top WNBA teams would lose to a good percentage of high school boys teams.
It doesn't surprise me a lotta dudes think they're therefore good enough to beat them, but they're not.
They'll lose to more talented players, but they won't lose to the average dude.
It doesn't surprise me a lotta dudes think they're therefore good enough to beat them, but they're not.
They'll lose to more talented players, but they won't lose to the average dude.
I mean it's not so crazy. As a Bulls fan, it's been a huge deal that Denzel Valentine was lit up for 44 points by a 9-5 shoe salesman in the Drew league. Denzel Valentine is questionable as a pro baller period though.
I had a roommate who said he could take on any woman in MMA with just a little training, because men are just stronger than women. I was just like, "Are you fucking stupid? They'd rock you."
Maybe its not masculinity. Maybe its something else..
You can't really point and blame someone for their genetic makeup. Can you?
I think you are not quite right on rankings. A good male high school team might still beat the top wnba teams.
Professional female athletes play against male high school teams for practice sometimes, not college. And it's to challenge themselves.
That's not to take anything away from the accomplishment of female athletes. Or to give pass to the sexism of men challenging them to feel better about themselves.
ive literally been told that I shouldn't reproduce
i'd rather have your problem
emotional bullying based something that you literally can't fix > having to lean
Who fucking cares. Why do mother fuckers always have to turn things like this into a competition?
Oh you have depression? Big deal i have schizophrenia.
Being like curry is more than just shooting. Constant running, fighting through screens, driving to basket, etc. And shooting in game is more than just being accurate . Curry is an elite male athlete who is considered relatively unathletic by nba standards. The nba is unachievable to most elite male atheletes.
But boy do guys love to bring it up over and over and over and over again.
ItsI basic privilege and tribalism.
People like to be on "winning" team even if they've done nothing to earn it
Don't MMA fighters always get this to? Some dipshit thinks they can take 'em so they start a fight?
Because I'm sensitive to public figures being treated in weird ways. They deserve to feel normal. Eat out at a restaurant. Meet regular people without people challenging in their area they work.
I was kind of including you in that, BG. Her experience has devolved into guys going through the Rolodex of sports to confirm that women can't compete in the top levels, but just to make sure that we don't give them too much credit, let's go even further and make it clear that even some high school teams can 'trounce' them. But, here's a back-handed compliment on how they do it to challenge themselves. Thanks?
I can believe it. Us dudes are embarrassing like that. Too much testosterone and too little respect for the hard work this woman has put in to reach the pinnacle of her sport.
On that note, this topic went about as expected. There's always that one person, well-meaning but not a sports fan, who conflates the men's and women's leagues, and then it opens the floodgate. It only took 5 posts for us to get there. Yikes.
Haha in this age of the internet people have to be real dumb to think that they could take an NBA player. Without NBA-caliber defense on them a lot of NBA players are just automatic with their shot. The NBA is the most exclusive pro sports league I believe- basketball is more accessible, more people play it around the world, and the fewest people make it to the NBA. Even the worst NBA player on a roster is phenomenal.
On that note, this topic went about as expected. There's always that one person, well-meaning but not a sports fan, who conflates the men's and women's leagues, and then it opens the floodgate. It only took 5 posts for us to get there. Yikes.
Haha in this age of the internet people have to be real dumb to think that they could take an NBA player. Without NBA-caliber defense on them a lot of NBA players are just automatic with their shot. The NBA is the most exclusive pro sports league I believe- basketball is more accessible, more people play it around the world, and the fewest people make it to the NBA. Even the worst NBA player on a roster is phenomenal.
Watching those clips, Valentine was also shamelessly double teamed every time down the court. Kind of a rough comparison.
I cross paths with celebs a lot on the street (NYC), nearly 100% I leave them alone except for the time i was drunk at a concert and yelled "what up Diddy!" as he was making his way through the crowd. Hahaha I've seen Mark Margolis a lot, I could imagine he's tired of people going "Ding ding ding!" at him.
The 1 on 1 aspect is what kills these lil boys. They have no teammates to blame for losing a game and God forbid a woman beats them. About 20 years ago, not too far from me someone got killed after a bball game because the guy who lost was so ego damaged.
Societally, I hope men can get better but that's going to have to be an aggressive endeavor and an undoing of a lot of Male centered aspects of society. My daughters have such a huge advantage over the women in my family, there's a huge gulf in how they see themselves and what they can and can't do, even from my gen to theirs.
Societally, I hope men can get better but that's going to have to be an aggressive endeavor and an undoing of a lot of Male centered aspects of society. My daughters have such a huge advantage over the women in my family, there's a huge gulf in how they see themselves and what they can and can't do, even from my gen to theirs.
Care to explain? I'd ask the same question to men, too. I think you are the unaware one. There is no masculinity involved in wanting to see a rare level of exceptionalism. It's like when I go to comic con and ask an artist to draw something for me.
Do you think an athlete at the top of the game actually wants to deal with random fuckers on the street who insist on undermining their skill by asking for them to play a 1v1 for free, and that this is comparable to a convention-going artist who is specifically there to make money by drawing things for people?
If you want to watch athletes play in real life, buy a ticket to one of their games.
So when you see an artist you recognize at a restaurant, you walk up to them and challenge then to a drawing competition?
I don't carry a hoop in my back pocket. Why would I ask a ball player, or an artist, to interrupt their dinner?
"I'd ask the same of men" changes nothing about this being a gendered issue.
Absolutely nothing that happens to women happens in a vacuum. Leave them the fuck alone when they tell you something bothers them.
Interesting article. Brings back memories for me.
I grew up in Chicago during the Jordan era when I believe it was illegal to not play basketball. As a girl who played (ironically, most of my male friends didn't ) , I mostly played against other guys as not many girls were playing yet at least casually at neighborhood courts.
I was a pretty promising player up to high school when I quit. At 14 I was only person to score on a WNBA visiting player one on one at a basketball camp I attended. I could handle my father one on one, and could hold my own against most guys my age.
When a guy would challenge me it was rarely a challenge as most guys who challenge in that way (because you are a girl ) are insecure and not that good themselves. Most could not handle "real" defense so it was easy for me to strip the ball or disrupt their shot (which was probably not great either). I was also just extremely good with handling the ball (Allen iverson being one of my fav players, and consuming and 1 mixtapes) , I was actually known for breaking people's ankles as we called it back then. I didn't have to be stronger or faster , I understood how to identify the side they were weak on defending, and how to use a bit of psychology in trash talk before I had my way with them.
I found out after I quit playing I had a counsin who was playing in the NBA, and my father briefly played when he was younger so a lot of my athletic gifts were just that only I combined it with a cerebral mindset.
I also had elite male friends who went on to play professionally overseas. I noticed they would never make these type of challenges even in early years. They also would never groan when playing with a girl. Elite athletes don't need to play one on one to prove anything they are only looking to improve themselves so the battle is with themselves.
Usually when playing one on one with those who's skill and just overall build was different or greater than mine it would be more about us helping each other with a particular challenge we were having with our own game.
I do have fond memories of playing against other neighborhoods. The look on the face of some guys when my friends showed up with me was priceless, and once we destroyed them , the feeling was priceless.
I grew up in Chicago during the Jordan era when I believe it was illegal to not play basketball. As a girl who played (ironically, most of my male friends didn't ) , I mostly played against other guys as not many girls were playing yet at least casually at neighborhood courts.
I was a pretty promising player up to high school when I quit. At 14 I was only person to score on a WNBA visiting player one on one at a basketball camp I attended. I could handle my father one on one, and could hold my own against most guys my age.
When a guy would challenge me it was rarely a challenge as most guys who challenge in that way (because you are a girl ) are insecure and not that good themselves. Most could not handle "real" defense so it was easy for me to strip the ball or disrupt their shot (which was probably not great either). I was also just extremely good with handling the ball (Allen iverson being one of my fav players, and consuming and 1 mixtapes) , I was actually known for breaking people's ankles as we called it back then. I didn't have to be stronger or faster , I understood how to identify the side they were weak on defending, and how to use a bit of psychology in trash talk before I had my way with them.
I found out after I quit playing I had a counsin who was playing in the NBA, and my father briefly played when he was younger so a lot of my athletic gifts were just that only I combined it with a cerebral mindset.
I also had elite male friends who went on to play professionally overseas. I noticed they would never make these type of challenges even in early years. They also would never groan when playing with a girl. Elite athletes don't need to play one on one to prove anything they are only looking to improve themselves so the battle is with themselves.
Usually when playing one on one with those who's skill and just overall build was different or greater than mine it would be more about us helping each other with a particular challenge we were having with our own game.
I do have fond memories of playing against other neighborhoods. The look on the face of some guys when my friends showed up with me was priceless, and once we destroyed them , the feeling was priceless.
I'm 6'6", play a bit of basketball just for fun and I definitely wouldn't challenge her to a 1-on-1. It would just end in tears.
Mine. Not hers.
I would leave a hand drawn map with directions to the nearest court, and say "See ya there".
Also back in the day you could go up to a Hardcore champion, and flat out challenge them 24/7 to a title match. You would still have to hire a licensed ref so it was a hefty price to try it.
Can't challenge any lady players to a one on one match through the OT. What's the point?
That may actually be correct. It would, however, take a considerable amount of being a maladjusted prick who doesn't understand basic social graces, as no one owes you a performance.
Logical conclusion: guys who pulls that shit aren't men, but a bunch of shitbirds. Good job all around.
People bringing up NBA vs WNBA are missing the entire point. You think Steph Curry is rolling up on her challenging her to a 1 v 1?
Fuck no, it's some tall jackass that works at T-Mobile who was a starter on his high school basketball team and plays pick up at lifetime fitness once a week. She, a finely tuned athlete, is going to and has smashed all those stupid bastards.
Fuck no, it's some tall jackass that works at T-Mobile who was a starter on his high school basketball team and plays pick up at lifetime fitness once a week. She, a finely tuned athlete, is going to and has smashed all those stupid bastards.
Seriously, they're professional athletes. There is no point for them to oblige. All it takes is for one reckless amateur to potentially inflict injury and ruin their career.
That's still a shitty pickup line lol. 9.9 times out of 10 women don't want to be approached by random creepodorks.
Go make a short thread dude.
Go watch TV or go to a game. WNBA players don't care for your challenge.
Thanks for the insight. Lol damn, scoring on a pro at 14? Why'd you quit?
I honestly don't know how to respond to this.
Not because I disagree, but because I honestly don't know what the correct thing to do is.
Should I have not responded to the post I originally responded to, even though I don't think it's (currently) accurate?
I think the issues clearly brought up in the OP are important and have merit. And importantly is something that we should address and fix as a society.
But I don't think claims that are consider inaccurate are helpful. They are probably counterproductive.
I genuinely want to hear your thoughts here.
