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I'm not a fan of hunting for sport, but I wouldn't mind carrying over my shooting skills to do a bit of practical hunting. And I love fishing. Haven't had much time in recent years, but it's something I'm interested in. Would love to hear about people's experiences and advice on starter equipment (bows probably better since I doubt my husband would agree to even a rifle in the house).
 

TheExecutive

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My parents just bought quite a bit of land up near Cotopaxi Colorado. We used to go hunting a lot when I was younger but lost that when I went to college and after- when I started working. I am excited to pick back up. Looking for a whitetail tag and a turkey tag this year.
 

Rackham

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Hunting for sport is not cool. Also, if you really want the thrill of the hunt, then why not use rubber bullets/blunted arrows? You can achieve the same effect, except without the whole murdering part.
I mean JFC. Talk about some real sociopathic shit. Don't hunt for food, just go around and hurt animals for fun- as long as you don't kill them!
 

Subpar Scrub

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Ok, I was just guessing about a name that sounded right when I said "blunted arrows," but I obviously meant some form of arrow that doesn't kill any animal. Maybe an arrow with foam on the tip of it like a nerf gun has. Or better yet, a camera.

As I edited in, there's no reason to make a projectile which won't kill the intended target. It won't cater to 99% of the hunting market. If people didn't want to kill the target, they'd already be using paintball guns or foam-tipped arrows, which exist for competitive bow-fighting matches (similar to paintball, you should check it out, it's fun as fuck).

And as for the camera comment... sure, it'd be nice, but that's not the intention of the thread.

I mean JFC. Talk about some real sociopathic shit. Don't hunt for food, just go around and hurt animals for fun- as long as you don't kill them!

Yeah, this is the issue I've been having with this narrative lmao
 

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I mean JFC. Talk about some real sociopathic shit. Don't hunt for food, just go around and hurt animals for fun- as long as you don't kill them!

I don't know dude. I was bending over backwards to try to offer non-lethal alternatives to the people in here who say they hunt for the primal thrill of it. That's the real sociopathic shit, as far as I'm concerned.
 

Molecule

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I don't hunt or fish. I was with you too on judging hunters in the past, but I am a meat eater and found it to be hypocritical. Hunters that eat their kills (or at least give the food away) I'm ok with.

To boil it down, the meat you eat go through hell in the farms anyway, and if society devolved to shit you'd be out there hunting boar and camp firing delicious pork.
That's how I feel. As long as what they hunt is eaten then I'm ok with it. People that hunt for fun only I'm not ok with.
 

zoukka

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I don't know dude. I was bending over backwards to try to offer non-lethal alternatives to the people in here who say they hunt for the primal thrill of it. That's the real sociopathic shit, as far as I'm concerned.

Labeling people who enjoy hunting 'sociopathic' is ridiculous.
 

iguanadolphin

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Went archery carp fishing a couple of weeks ago. Kind of fun. Didn't get a dear tag this year. I've been coyote hunting several times too.

Fishing s my thing though.
 

Camstun187

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I hunted for a few years.

Built my own tree stand, learned how to track (not well), vacuum-sealed my clothes, had that special soap, studied field-dressing and even had a jar of deer urine that i would spray myself in on those early mornings before going and taking 2 hours to traverse the one-mile field that led to my tree stand, where I would wait with a playlist on my iPhone 3 as I hunted deer, butchered them, and lived off their meat for weeks at a time.

I visited my tree stand earlier this year after not having gone back to it in almost 5, and no one messed with it. Hopefully another skilled hunter has utilized it somehow.
 

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Thank you for taking the time to make this comment.
I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not.

Anyway, I did a lot of fishing growing up and used to go to hunting expos. Was never all that into actually killing the fish though, the enjoyable part is mostly being out in nature. Now I get a similar experience from bird / wildlife photography, but I still think hunting is orders of magnitude less objectionable than factory farming. Most hunters tend to be nature conservationists who care a lot more than the average joe.
 
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I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not.

Anyway, I did a lot of fishing growing up and used to go to hunting expos. Was never all that into actually killing the fish though, the enjoyable part is mostly being out in nature. Now I get a similar experience from bird / wildlife photography, but I still think hunting is orders of magnitude less objectionable than factory farming. Most hunters tend to be nature conservationist who care a lot more than the average joe.
Sorry, i should have been clearer. I definitely wasn't being sarcastic. I just appreciated the fact that you were not being dismissive like some of the other people.
 

Rivi

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3030 Winchester rifle of choice when deer hunting. Very little kick and packs a punch and have gotten quite a few one shot drops over the years with it. Prefer it to the 270
 

Ombra

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I can definitely understand the need for it, but when it comes to guns I see it less as "hunting" and more exterminating.

Oddly enough, barehanded, knife or bow hunting gets my utmost respect.
 
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I'm actually thinking about getting a bow and trying my hand at harvesting some deer.

I do have a 300 rifle, but admittedly, it's not set up for hunting varmints.
 
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I like to shoot, but mostly paper. I've done a few quail hunts over the years but its usually a lot of time, effort so I stick to shooting paper. I find < 200 yard deer bow hunts incredibly interesting to read about/watch though.
 

Akira86

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Have a hunting thread. I'm cool with it. If Tabris shows up looking like Don Jr, surrounded by elephant skins, I will post accordingly.

otherwise, I like guns and jerkied meats as much as anyone.
 
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I can definitely understand the need for it, but when it comes to guns I see it less as "hunting" and more exterminating.

Oddly enough, barehanded, knife or bow hunting gets my utmost respect.
This is a fair point, the thing many people simply do not understand is that shooting a rifle at range.. hell shooting a handgun at 25 years is difficult. If you put a .308 in the hands of every ERA member and asked them to hit a target at 300 yards (not very far for hunting), 95% of them would miss every single time, especially in a real world scenario where you're not using a bipod on a level table. There is real skill involved in hunting, even with rifles at high calibers. Every single piece of media, video games, TV shows and movies gives the impression otherwise. That you simply aim point shoot and sure maybe practice to get better. On the contrary, if I loaded a magazine on a 9mm handgun and asked someone to hit it at 50 yards they would likely miss every single round.

Anyways, not arguing with you at all because you make great observations but I just wanted to add too your comment and talk about the difficulty with shooting accurately in general.
 

jjreamPop

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Not magically, no. But I'm on the other side of the world. Do you think there has never been any connection to any of the places having any of these animals now? For all I know, there might have been some common and well adapted ancestor on there, resulting in just another type of pig, for example.
The way you phrased it, you think humans magically found their way there.
My statement was more an exclamation of surprise anyway.

Hey, I know the conversation moved on and you probably peace'd out, but for you and other people wondering: Every placental mammal in Australia besides bats are invasive species. Australia split off from the rest of the world before mammals figured out how to not lay eggs or need pouches.

So the species OP is hunting are all 100 bonafide introduced and destructive species. The sooner they're wiped out on that island, the better.

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Back on topic. I don't hunt and have no real desire or reason to hunt. I used to despise all hunting, but now I realize it's just plain hypocritical and arrogant to do so... for the most part. I don't support canned hunting in the slightest.

For a while I was interested in Falconry and Bow hunting, but never actually went anywhere with it, haha. If I were to go out and kill stuff.. I'd probably do so with a bird or bow! Just seems more fun/fair.
 

Westbahnhof

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Hey, I know the conversation moved on and you probably peace'd out, but for you and other people wondering: Every placental mammal in Australia besides bats are invasive species. Australia split off from the rest of the world before mammals figured out how to not lay eggs or need pouches.

So the species OP is hunting are all 100 bonafide introduced and destructive species. The sooner they're wiped out on that island, the better.

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Back on topic. I don't hunt and have no real desire or reason to hunt. I used to despise all hunting, but now I realize it's just plain hypocritical and arrogant to do so... for the most part. I don't support canned hunting in the slightest.

For a while I was interested in Falconry and Bow hunting, but never actually went anywhere with it, haha. If I were to go out and kill stuff.. I'd probably do so with a bird or bow! Just seems more fun/fair.
I've read up on the whole thing now, and I really never realized how few placental mammals there are! You never stop learning, I doubt many people know about this.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though, but as I understood it, rats and mice are also not invasive, right?

But yeah, in any case, Australia sure is the hunters paradise, I guess. Loads of animals to remove to restore the order that had been there before it got screwed by humans.

Concerning hunting with a bird: That sounds pretty cool, I just caught a falcon demonstration recently. Probably the kind of hunting I'd like to try most, but not exactly easy to start.
 

jjreamPop

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I've read up on the whole thing now, and I really never realized how few placental mammals there are! You never stop learning, I doubt many people know about this.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though, but as I understood it, rats and mice are also not invasive, right?

But yeah, in any case, Australia sure is the hunters paradise, I guess. Loads of animals to remove to restore the order that had been there before it got screwed by humans.

Concerning hunting with a bird: That sounds pretty cool, I just caught a falcon demonstration recently. Probably the kind of hunting I'd like to try most, but not exactly easy to start.

I forgot those. Right, rats and mice, too, are indigenous, but they got there way after marsupials and monotremes.

I got the chance to handle raptors when I volunteered at my school's wildlife rehab center. It's what really made me consider picking up falconry. Seeing raptors in flight is crazy.
 

Westbahnhof

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I forgot those. Right, rats and mice, too, are indigenous, but they got there way after marsupials and monotremes.

I got the chance to handle raptors when I volunteered at my school's wildlife rehab center. It's what really made me consider picking up falconry. Seeing raptors in flight is crazy.
The show we got included loads of birds, including bald eagle, golden eagle, griffon vulture and the massive creature called Steller's sea eagle, with females reachin 9.5KG.
I'd love to get to handle one of those, but even watching was breathtaking, especially when it flew over our heads, just inches above us.
 

tabris

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Have a hunting thread. I'm cool with it. If Tabris shows up looking like Don Jr, surrounded by elephant skins, I will post accordingly.

otherwise, I like guns and jerkied meats as much as anyone.

Huh? I'm extremely anti-gun. Not sure why you called out me. Don't want to derail but I would be in support of a complete gun ban including hunting.
 
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Seems like there might be enough people for a combined hunting/fishing thread.

Should we make a new thread or just convert this one?
 

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I'd love to get into hunting, but I live in NYC lol. Hunting seems very gear intensive. No space for that here.
 
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We have to harvest deer/wild pig in this country. We just do. Because of awful choices in resource/environmental management that have been made in the past, there are no/insufficient numbers of natural predators for those animals. And even when we reintroduce species like wolves, in areas where they would be set up to have enough food, dumbass ranchers/farmers still take out the predators.

I've harvested deer before. A good hunter makes sure there is a clean kill. And if you take the right shot, and have the right equipment, the animal doesn't suffer. Also, I can help out the less fortunate as well. The game butchers I have used, in conjunction with local food banks, will take/prep/deliver an animal. I can't eat a whole deer. So I take what I want, and the rest is given to a food bank. I haven't come across one that charges to deliver to a food bank, and the one I use, I foot the bill to have the meat processed, turned into sausage, whatever it needs to make it easier to serve.

If you are anti-gun/vegan, whatever, I understand you have your reasons for it. But don't think its some sort of weird rush to harvest an animal. I don't get a rush out of it. Sometimes, it makes me sad. But, I've got food in my fridge and food for my family, and then food for those who need it.

Hunting in the United States is still a viable way for many people to economically and ecologically obtain healthy protein. Honestly, harvesting a deer has way less environmental impact that one cow in factory farming.

I've never taken a trophy. I've never even taken a picture of a deer I've harvested. Its not my thing.

I can't say what happens to hogs after a hunt, since the only hog hunt I've even witnessed was a rite of passage in Hawai'i. And those get eaten. I can't say what happens on the mainland other than feral hogs are an artificially introduced invasive species that need to be controlled.
 

Congo Jack

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I'm in a bit of a dilemma with my hunting rifle, I can't decide if I should put a scope on my trusty .243 or if I should leave it with just iron sights. My dad got a scope for cheap that he doesn't need so he offered it to me, but I kinda like iron sights when I'm out deer hunting so I haven't put it on my rifle yet.

As for fishing, I haven't gone in 5 years or so, but I'm hoping I can go out to the lake sometime this summer before I head to university.
 
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If you use the whole animal for food, sure. But if you're just killing it to feel like a big man...fuck that bs
There are legitimate reasons other than food for hunting.

As I've said multiple times in this thread, in Australia, there are many types of invasive and destructive introduced species such as feral pigs, cats, rabbits and foxes which are absolutely devastating native animals and leading to catastrophic levels of extinctions.

Recreational hunters are a key aspect of keeping those populations of introduced pests under control.
 

S-Wind

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I am not a hunter. I do not own any guns.

But, as an omnivore, I have a lot of respect for people who kill their own meat.

Trophy hunters can fuck off and die.