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When do you think Final Fantasy XVI will be out?
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Probably yes.
There will be an infinitely less wait than the last one.
(which was, however, a particular case at the end)
Final Fantasy XVI will use, surely, either the Unreal Engine 4 or the Luminous Engine.
But, since there is a division dedicated to the Luminous, I would not assume that it is done with the Luminous.
(since the Luminous team of Tabata is now dedicated to make a new IP)
But, at the same time, since it is anyway a proprietary Engineer, there would be no problem in using this too for further projects.
Having said that, whether it is done with the UE4 or the Luminous, Final Fantasy XVI will have no technical problems with the Engine.
(because these are only 2 options)
And, bearing in mind this, already more than half of the big technical work is already done with this choice. Once they have chosen, it will be enough to build the game based on the nature of the Engine.
(also based on the nature of previous games, such as Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts III)
For this, potentially, it is very likely that Final Fantasy XVI can come out already between 2020/2021.
I wonder whether SE would be willing to "downgrade" the whole thing to make it a PS5/Switch/PC game.
if they care about Japan that's absolutely the thing to do.
unless we are talking a 2022-2025 release year, a timeframe on which the switch is already out of the market and nintendo's next hardware is out there already.
if they care about Japan that's absolutely the thing to do.
unless we are talking a 2022-2025 release year, a timeframe on which the switch is already out of the market and nintendo's next hardware is out there already.
I think 2021. I believe FFVII:Remake is set for a blowout going into 2019 and will either release late 2019 or early 2020. Assuming the game is only two parts (not three like many seem to guess) there could perhaps be a gap of about two years between part one and two. In that gap is where I think FFXVI will slot. Of course going off these assumptions FFXVI would have to go into active development (production) this year to allow for a 3 - 4 year period out of pre-production, which is about as long as FFXV had.
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Also, I think it's extremely optimistic to think FF7R will be done in 2024.
Hm, I imagine around 2021? Made by BD5 (FFXIV/FFXII/TLR team). Could see it being singleplayer with optional co-op, probably zones-based instead of open-world, shared hubs, possibly custom characters - basically Destiny/Monster Hunter x FF. I guess technically FFXIV is already kinda like that since you can play most of it like a singleplayer game too if you want to, no?
BD2 (Tabata's FFXV team) have split off as their own company Luminous Productions in March and are working on their new next-gen IP alongside a small team working on the FFXV's 2019 DLC. They're not making FFXVI. Don't know if theoretically there's still a BD2 left and if it's filled with new staff maybe?
Also, Octopath is made by BD11.
I believe BD5 has been working on FFXVI for some time now. They've been hiring for a new project since at least early 2016 and some of the FFXIV leads were taken off after Heavensward was finished in 2015. See:
I guess they could also be making another game, maybe a FF spinoff or something. Considering the attention that the Ivalice universe has gotten recently and the abovementioned staff leaving, I wouldn't be surprised if there also was a new Ivalice game.
Uh, BD1 is making FFVIIR right now, lol. Did you miss them moving the remake from the external development at CyberConnect2 to in-house last year?^^
BD2 (Tabata's FFXV team) have split off as their own company Luminous Productions in March and are working on their new next-gen IP alongside a small team working on the FFXV's 2019 DLC. They're not making FFXVI. Don't know if theoretically there's still a BD2 left and if it's filled with new staff maybe?
Also, Octopath is made by BD11.
I believe BD5 has been working on FFXVI for some time now. They've been hiring for a new project since at least early 2016 and some of the FFXIV leads were taken off after Heavensward was finished in 2015. See:
duckroll said:
I guess they could also be making another game, maybe a FF spinoff or something. Considering the attention that the Ivalice universe has gotten recently and the abovementioned staff leaving, I wouldn't be surprised if there also was a new Ivalice game.
I'm gonna say 2021. Even though if BD5 started working on it two years ago that's still way too long, that's probably what we're looking at.
That'd be super cool... but not what I had in mind... lol
Please be excited for Tabata's new IP. Wouldn't be surprised if it's based on Agni in some form. Remember that his team has been the most recent lead of the AP aka. WITCH project and he was the last one to officially present new videos from that project at the Microsoft Build conference in 2015.
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/04/30/build-demo/
5-6 years from now. I expect FF VII Remake- Episode 1 to be released in the 2nd year of the next generation, I can see even the game being both in Ps4/One and Ps5/Next Xbox. Then a couple of years after that the second chapter. And then FF XVI is announced to be released after the final chapter.
That is Tabata's new ip
On topic I think we will see ff16 in 2024 after all ff7 episodes
Absolutely not possible unless they scale back the production values expected of the next entry in the series.
2022 at the earliest since they're focusing on finishing up KHIII now and VII-R episodes for the next few years. Most probably 2023-24 initial release with a complete product by 2026.
FFXV actually sold much more in the West than in Japan when in the past Japan's sales were pretty much always bigger than the US or EU sales respectively. It still was the second best-selling PS4 game in Japan though after DQXI.
FFXV should be at at least over 7.5 million by now with this year's Windows Edition alone (last number from the recent Steam leak was at ~490K) and probably even a bit higher with the Royal Edition sales. Don't have exact numbers right now, but afaik of those sales around 1.1M were from Japan (not including digital, iirc) and 2.5-3M from US and EU each with the rest of Asia adding several hundreds of thousands (China was #2 after Japan in Asia with surprisingly good numbers).
Regarding mobile games, the mobile FF games are very successful in Japan, especially Brave Exvius. FFXV's mobile game A New Empire actually has been doing huge numbers too, though mainly in the West (it's developed and run by Machine Zone and not SE though, so SE likely gets a huge upfront sum for the license but no constant royalties). Btw, SE for the first time made almost as much money from their mobile segment in the last fiscal year as from console games and MMOs together.
Now about your idea of Crystal Dynamics working on a mainline FF: I've recently been phantasizing a lot about how it would be if a Western AAA studio would make a new mainline FF in collaboration with key staff from an internal SE team for the creative framework and concepts. Technically FFIX already kinda did that - it was developed in Hawaii with some Japanese key staff working with a lot of American staff, including CG artists like Jake Rowell who made many of the pre-rendered backgrounds or concept artists like Christian Scheurer who's still working on Hollywood movies (most recently Aquaman).
Another creative collaboration - though different than what I meant above since it was still mainly developed in Japan - happened for the Agni's Philosophy tech demo from 2012 where SE/Visual Works worked together with Crystal Dynamics:
You've seen Square Enix's Agni's Philosophy tech demo right? If you haven't watch it, it's pretty amazing. During CEDEC 2012, Square Enix's Luminous Studio team explained how they created the tech and it's a mix of East and West.
Concept artwork for Agni and the summoner were shared during the session:
Agni was designed by Ryo Iwata, Lead Technology artist, while the summoner was a created by Brian Horton from Crystal Dynamics.
Final Fantasy XIII art director Isamu Kamikokuryo and Brenoch Adams from Crystal Dynamics contributed environmental concept art.
To get Agni's hair right, the Luminous Team used a model and HDR camera.
Here are some shots of cloth testing…
… and facial animation tests.
Square Enix nailed the design of the wolf-like creature shown in the demo. They had fur animation tests for all of the creatures too.
They even got a dog to do motion capture work for the wolf-like monster!
Here's a look at the facial capture work based on Visual Works' technology.
Source.
That's way too pessimistic, lol. I think FFVIIR-1 will come Late 2019/Early 2020, with a PC/next-gen port a year later or so.
In this year's financial report SE showed that they're expecting a huge spike in income between April 2019 and April 2020, so I guess that's either Avengers and/or FFVIIR:
Agreed!That's way too pessimistic, lol. I think FFVIIR-1 will come Late 2019/Early 2020, with a PC/next-gen port a year later or so.
In this year's financial report SE showed that they're expecting a huge spike in income between April 2019 and April 2020, so I guess that's either Avengers and/or FFVIIR:
According to SE, development is going really well, and whilst they could be lying, the confidence they've shown in interviews is not soemthing I've seen in a long while. They've even got Kitase on active development duty. I don't think it's pessimistic to think they're hoping to release this game next year (but will probably release it early 2020).
Hopefully we should know how the multi part situation is going to play out. I'm still hoping for two parts only.
It depends on how big the first part is. If they decide to go The Hobbit route and bloat each of the three parts to be as large as the original game, I can see them releasing the game 3 or 4 years from now.
TBH I'm not happy at all with the decision of making three games. If the second or third game end looking or playing really better compared to the first part, it will be a strange remake. At the end it seems like a money-based decision: lots of players love FF VII and SE wants to milk every dollar they can from the franchise, even if it means releasing 3 shorted games at full price.
I feel like I'm in with the 2022 crowd. Maybe 2023.
All I really hope for is that the team that gets assigned to the project is given at least 3 or 4 years for focused development. I don't have any demands for its setting or gameplay design -- I just want an impression that it was given time to be all that it aspired to be. I just want the team to be creatively motivated to make it and to have a good amount of time to realize their goals. Just avoid another stalled/unfocused development process like FFXV had, despite me really enjoying that game for what it is.
All I really hope for is that the team that gets assigned to the project is given at least 3 or 4 years for focused development. I don't have any demands for its setting or gameplay design -- I just want an impression that it was given time to be all that it aspired to be. I just want the team to be creatively motivated to make it and to have a good amount of time to realize their goals. Just avoid another stalled/unfocused development process like FFXV had, despite me really enjoying that game for what it is.
Well we were confirmed at over 7 million 6 months ago before the Royal Edition even hit and the PC version hadn't been released yet. So with that info on steam we're confirmed at over 7.5 million and probably hovering around 8 million.
I think the whole 'FFXV wasn't successful' stuff needs to be debunked over and over again. Outside of MMO's, it was their best selling Final Fantasy game since the merger when Sakaguchi left 17 years ago. (FFX being the last game that sold more)
Yeah, though they've been getting less frequent it's still funny to see posts wondering if FFXV even broke even or thinking SE made losses on it when actually they broke even on day one and made very good profits since:
XV's strong launch is proof XIII did not even close to sink the franchise. If it had XV would have launched lower worldwide
Bit of a hyperbolish opening post
Anyway
XVI is 2022 at the earliest. It must be in pre production but VII remake project is the next big FF entry for now
Bit of a hyperbolish opening post
Anyway
XVI is 2022 at the earliest. It must be in pre production but VII remake project is the next big FF entry for now
Actually, in the theoretical development line, Final Fantasy XVI could easily come out in 2020/21
(this if the production of the game started from 2016/17, the year in which Final Fantasy XV was released)
And maintaining, however, a productive quality of Kingdom Hearts III, Final Fantasy XV and Final Fantasy VII Remake.
And the existence of the project Remake VII, does not imply the immobility of the other BD of Square Enix dedicated to the titles of Final Fantasy.
In addition, I believe that Final FantasyXV has succeeded perfectly complete already from DayOne
(November 29, 2016).
And try to look for a random or invented motif today to fear or worry about HOW it will come out Final Fantasy XVI is nonsensical and illogical from my point of view.
(If not as another reason to "complain without reason")
Serious answer? Work on it won't start until the latter half of final fantasy 7 remake development, so at earliest 2021
Satirical answer? We will see a trailer changing the Roman numeral 7 into 16 flash on the screen in the year 2030
Satirical answer? We will see a trailer changing the Roman numeral 7 into 16 flash on the screen in the year 2030
It's funny how when you look at actual sales figures, the hardcore segment of FF fandom that's been bitching about the games 'flashy modernization' since VII are at odds with the general audience. IIRC, all-time FF's top sellers should soon be FF7, 10, 8 & 15. The hate for 8 & 15 here is pretty staggering. Meanwhile there are a lot of people calling for a return to FFIX or XII style, when those are literally the lowest selling in the modern era (especially IX).
i expect it sooner rather than later, fairly early into next gen. but i won't play nostradamus and put a date on it.
expecting a very "modernized" FF ... i'd hate to say GaaS as it's a loaded term already but i anticipate online features, continually added content and such. in which case you can rule out turn-based, open world is pretty much a given.
expecting a very "modernized" FF ... i'd hate to say GaaS as it's a loaded term already but i anticipate online features, continually added content and such. in which case you can rule out turn-based, open world is pretty much a given.
2023. Hopefully the PC version is day and date with consoles, and hopefully they partner with Nvidia again because I love the exclusive GPU options and effects.
Also lol at XIII almost killing the franchise. Not even close tbh.
Also lol at XIII almost killing the franchise. Not even close tbh.
Please god, no. Keep Nomura as far away from XVI as possible. Plz Square, bring back Matsuno. I want another game set in Ivalice.
Back to topic. I don't expect 7R to be out until 2022, so I don't think we can reasonnably expect XVI before 2025 and that's being optimistic.