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"Revenge of the Incels" - Brick remake shot on exact same locations parodying The Last Jedi hate.
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You realize that they have several websites right? People have told you to educate yourself yet you double down on nonsense while downplaying the fact that they have killed people and on the daily, encourage others to either kill themselves or kill others, or a combination of the two. How is that "trolling?"
User Banned (1 Month): Denying the existence of a violent misogynistic hate group.
Come on, this really didn't warrant a ban
Also, I don't really think you can dismiss people who dislike TLJ as incels. Yeah there's a seemingly sizable amount of people who dislike it because of the female characters but from what I've seen it's mostly because the casino scene is cheesy and they don't like how Luke is handled.
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so it's an accurate reflection of anti-TLJ posters, then
Denying a hate group that has had multiple mass shooters is worth a permanent ban.
He was denying the existence of a group of people now responsible for mass murder.
It's possible the title is a little bit tongue-in-cheek and not meant as a sworn deposition.
Not all TLJ haters are incels, but all incels are TLJ haters.
There's a difference between "not worshipping" a film and constantly making personal attacks against the people worked in it because of the promotion of inclusivity. Incels fall squarely into the latter.
Also if you seem offended that a short film is making fun of a group you wanna distance yourself away from, what does that say about you.
you guys realize this parody doesn't claim that right
Like the entire point of the parody is making fun of the people that harassed Kelly out of Instagram and announced they would do a "remake"
Thats fair enough, I'm not defending the crazies that go attack actors and directors (like the majority of people did during the prequels), but more so with framing the entire conversation around "oh you had problems with this film? you must be a dam incel".
Discourse about film online is already terrible and pushing it further into hyperbole seems irresponsible.
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that didn't take long.
If you read past the title of the short film, or watched more than 30 seconds of it, or read more than 3 sentences of the linked article in the OP, you'd learn that this isn't about the overall fan response to TLJ.
It's specifically about 1) the relentless social media harassment of kelly marie tran and 2) the self-identified incels who claimed they could and would rewrite and reshoot the film to make it fit their worldview more.
Folks swinging in here defensively shitposting about "hey man I hate TLJ but don't call me an incel' have completely lost the plot and are willfully illiterate of the context the OP provided.
Since when is that a surprise? You know nobody reads the OP on Resetera, or at least you should know. Lower your expectations. :p
As for the video, eh, I wasn't laughing out loud at it or anything, but it was alright. But I've never seen Brick, so I might have to go do that. After Evo, though.
Well, remember when not liking The Last Jedi automatically made you sexist and racist? Well now you're apparently an incel too so best not publicly admit on forums that you dislike the movie because people will think you're an unhinged psychopath.
Did you harass people involved in making the film?
No?
Then this movie isn't calling you an incel.
really makes you think what's making these people get so defensive about posts that clearly aren't even fucking directed toward them
Lol.
A question to you and the others taking this stance. Who is saying this about you? In this very thread, there seems to be none of that.
The bloody film, isn't saying that.
So where the hell are you getting this from?
I dislike the movie, I've watched this parody and literally doesn't do this at all. Why are people making shit up?
It's all I ever hear, on this forum and social media as well.
It's like not liking a movie makes you a pariah or something and this has been going on since the movie came out, like people who are so adamant about defending the movie don't know what a Venn diagram is or are unable to understand that just because two people dislike the same thing, it's not necessarily for the same reasons nor are they necessarily sharing anything else in common whatsoever.
I've been pretty vocal in the past about my disapproval of some Star Wars fans and their attitudes towards women but, as several people have already pointed out, these generalisations that lump everyone that doesn't like a movie in the same camp is just insulting.
Rather than pointing out these people are sick in the head independent of what films they do or do not like, labelling them as "people who don't like the sequel movies" and then making no attempt to distinguish them from normal people that just don't like the movies is extremely problematic.
Then you have reactions like those we've had in this thread and those that most people would have reading about this on social media, equating not liking a specific movie with being an incel.
Not a single person in this thread has done this, and neither has the parody. This paranoia is ridiculous.
I loved Brick when I watched it, but I didn't realise the director of that film also shot The Last Jedi. Rian is somebody I also know on Twitter, I recall he very politely and effectively educated somebody about the realities of Gamergate last month.
Edit: okay I now realise he also directed the film Looper and one of the most highly acclaimed episodes of a serial drama (Breaking Bad: Ozymandias, which I must now watch!)
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So there's a disclaimer somewhere that states only a small number of people that dislike the sequel movies actually dislike it for sexist and racist reasons and the parody is aimed only at that specific subset and in no way implies any generalisations or accusations?
'cause let's not kid ourselves. Most people aren't even going to watch the video and will only pay attention to the fact it's called Revenge of the Incels and is a parody of people that don't like the sequel movies, a pretty sweeping generalisation.
It doesn't need a disclaimer when the whole plot of this video is about the people who harassed KMT off Twitter.
Oh, now I understand why you're so mad.
Maybe watch the video, it's not parodying people who dislike the sequels. At all.
Why would it need a disclaimer? It's pretty obvious to anyone with a brain that watches the first minute of this parody.
I've never seen Brick, but even without the references knowledge, this was damn well shot, and funny.
It's a parody of the sexist asshats who didn't like the movie because they're sexist asshats
PS a bad way to defend hating a movie is to pretend that people who aren't lumping you in with toxic bad people are in fact doing so because the net result is that it downplays the prevalence of the toxic bad people, chills the discussion on the toxic bad people, makes it all about you and in turn annoys people who want to talk about the toxic bad people but now have to hold your hand so you don't feel sad.
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Its not a sweeping generalization. Its a fan film making fun of this loud alt right/incel anti-TLJ people that you find all over social media.
No need to get all worked up.
Its a parody movie. Making fun of the alt right/incels who are all worked up about TLJ online. Thats it. Its just fun.
This is a great post. Very good explanation of this.
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Let me take a step back and explain to you the problem with what you're doing here.
This harassment campaign, much like gamergate before it, tries to muddy the water by mixing their message of women hate (and let's be real, that what it is, maybe with a dash of racism) with the crowd of people who just don't like TLJ, which is a perfectly fine opinion to have. They're doing it because then they can pretend like this thing is based on a reasonable opinions rather than hate. But that only works if people play along with this, and I'm sorry to say, you are playing along with them, even if you don't mean to.
Don't do that, seriously, the video isn't even about that or you, there are a ton of places you can argue about the merit of TLJ.
User warned: derailing, ignoring context of OP
Right because not wanting to be associated with these "toxic bad people" just because we dislike the same movie for completely different reasons is unreasonable despite the fact that this very association has been and will continue to be used against me and basically anyone that doesn't like the movies just because it's an easy card to play when you want to dismiss opinions contrary to your own.
I'm sorry that men calling me sexist towards women is something of a raw nerve for me. I'm also sorry that I've been fighting against sexism within the Star Wars fandom for over ten years but, now men are actually paying attention to the issues (or at least pretending to) that have been problems since before I ever got involved in the fandom, I get a little touchy when they simultaneously try branding me as a heretic and try to teach me how harmless generalisations are.
Brah you're bitching that a video not about you didn't have a disclaimer saying it's not about you.
But i get it you're the actual victim of the harassment campaign against women.
So, you still haven't bothered watching the video and even after being told by multiple people this video isn't about what you assume it's about, you are STILL going to act like it is.
Why?
The actual content of the parody itself is as irrelevant as the op in a thread, which you're lucky if people will even skim. The majority of folks on the internet just don't have the attention span.
So no, I'm actually bitching about the fact perception matters and basically nobody is going to actually watch the video. All the majority of people will take away from this is that Rian Johnson retweeted a video called Revenge of the Incels that parodies people that don't like the new movies.
Again, perception matters - and clickbaity news like this only really adds another label to give people that don't like a movie.
Oh and please tell me one woman that isn't a victim of the harassment campaign against women. That's kind of the point, after all, right? Or did you miss the part where there are men in any fandom that don't want women to be a part of it?