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Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 Beta |OT| The future is still black but without jetpacks
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It's the one thing that makes the unbelievably fucked up spawning/map design vaguely tolerable.
There's too much emphasis on smg's. I mean I love running round a map with a smg hip firing but the maps are so small, so corridored that the only logical way to play the game with any success is with a smg.
It's like treyarch think it's acceptable to make maps so small because at the other end of the spectrum you'll have blackout which will be a much larger scale mode with more range weapons. But that's such a cop out. They've had 3 years to make these maps with a good variety of playstyles and they've literally gone for the same kind of maps across the board.
It's like treyarch think it's acceptable to make maps so small because at the other end of the spectrum you'll have blackout which will be a much larger scale mode with more range weapons. But that's such a cop out. They've had 3 years to make these maps with a good variety of playstyles and they've literally gone for the same kind of maps across the board.
I think they mentioned toning down SMGs
As for acoustic sensor, it's ridiculous and Ive seen players prefire perfectly
However, it has a hard counter that many havent unlocked yet.
Id like to see maybe an operator that jams radar and EMPs certain things. But I wonder if that would hurt the already weak killstreaks
As for acoustic sensor, it's ridiculous and Ive seen players prefire perfectly
However, it has a hard counter that many havent unlocked yet.
Id like to see maybe an operator that jams radar and EMPs certain things. But I wonder if that would hurt the already weak killstreaks
So after using the Acoustic Sensor I agree that it's a worthy contender to armor, that said, I still think both of em are wildly overpowered and need severe nerfs.
It seems as though streaks are very underpowered in this game, UAV's can be shot out of the sky by a hand full of AP bullets, I can shoot a helicopter out of the sky with half an LMG mag and that's not even talking about how good the rockets are. Weirdly the operator abilities are better than the damn streaks, with some of them being equivalents to streaks in previous games (Torque's Barricade is literally a better version of the Guardian from 2 and 3)
Maps are a mixed bag for me, I like some of them but others appear to be half-finished.
It seems as though streaks are very underpowered in this game, UAV's can be shot out of the sky by a hand full of AP bullets, I can shoot a helicopter out of the sky with half an LMG mag and that's not even talking about how good the rockets are. Weirdly the operator abilities are better than the damn streaks, with some of them being equivalents to streaks in previous games (Torque's Barricade is literally a better version of the Guardian from 2 and 3)
Maps are a mixed bag for me, I like some of them but others appear to be half-finished.
Only sections are corridored and there's nothing stopping you and your team building a defence to catch people pushing though
It's good to have mixed sections on maps
Just remove armor, you're forced to use it unless you're willing to accept that you'll probably be at a huge disadvantage in every gunfight with someone who's using it.
Yeah I played against a level 25 last night and he watched the killcam and he was pre firing every corner.
Majority according to many posts at various forums. I don't work for SHG, so I dont have concrete numbers. Th SBMM in the game is ridiculous. The game was fine until they made changes in March or April, and then it went to the shitter.
I get it, SHG wants SBMM to cater to the casuals, since its more people available to buy loot boxes. However, SBMM destroys the experience quality.
My biggest fear is that Treyarch will implement SBMM once the population drops, just as SHG has done with WW2.
Nothing changed in my set-up. The problem is SHG and SBMM. I am in North America, but I get matched up with people in Europe and Mid-East? SBMM is ridiculous.
This game isn't for me at all. It's still full of futuristic crap and far from where I want this series to go back to. Its still about nonstop movement even though they removed the advanced movement options and were never good at it. I think Blops 3 was total and utter crap and this is just more of that and the dumb specialist abilities.
And I'm at odds with the shooting. Pumping kids with bullets and they're killing me with ease. I never feel against shooting in cod games but it feels off in this one.
And I'm at odds with the shooting. Pumping kids with bullets and they're killing me with ease. I never feel against shooting in cod games but it feels off in this one.
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I think armor should be removed, and acoustic sensor should be reworked into a perk that operates the same as sixth sense (so a weaker version of what it does now), while footstep sounds are turned up for all players. I've got the Sony Platinum headphones and it's crazy how little I can hear when enemies are sprinting in circles 6 feet away.
Also, I'm surprised more people aren't bothered by the gear that speeds up healing, reduces its cooldown, and lets you fire while healing. It can win you extended gunfights time and time again.
Also, I'm surprised more people aren't bothered by the gear that speeds up healing, reduces its cooldown, and lets you fire while healing. It can win you extended gunfights time and time again.
Thanks for the info!
I'm on the fence on BO4 (until I play the open PC beta) because it's continuing the "future war" setting but IW's next title is rumored to be MW4. Hopefully they tone down the series closer to CoD4. This futuristic crap got old years ago. It's why I was hyped for WW2. Too bad everything else sucked about it.
I feel like people playing this game running n gunning at the lower skill range are playing wrong. Your gonna get killed due to the higher health. If you run into 2 people you're dead. All I see is people running into their deaths standing back is benefiting me greatly especially on modes like Control.
And that's the other thing, playing modes like control
Idk how I feel about the game so far, except that I think BO3 is better. The maps were on point, and everything seemed more polished and fluid, even on the beta. And it still played like a cod game
I need to play more , keep playing control, try more weapons, find a set up that works for me etc. So my mind could change. But even if I end up buying and liking it, it might be for different reasons that I normally like cod for
This is all from someone that has gotten the mothership like 400 times, and can go 98-6 etc on domination (BO3 and previous black ops games)
I hate modern cod because youre always running into 2+ jackasses around every corner. I miss when it was more like kill, small breathing time, see enemy again.
Its very frustrating. Add the aim assist that makes it even harder to target one enemy at a time and its just stupid
Players are hyper aggressive, so if their teammate dies, theyll swoop in to keep up the pressure and kill you at half health. Thats if their not already holding hands with their teammate.
Last gen cod hardly had players double rushing around the map
They need to stay as gear. All of the gear are powerful. Its just that acoustic and shields affect the gunplay
I think shields should require activation during combat and that acoustic should be fine as is
Players ought to run UAV jammers to counter, and Id like to maybe see an EMP class that jams radar when you get near him
Between a scorestreak, perk, and crouching, it should keep it in check
Eh, I'd say the decreased ability cooldown and lowered streak cost gears are a cut below the rest. Those were regular perks in previous games, and now they're meant to stack up against two brand new advantages (faster, more efficient, less cumbersome healing and Juggernaut Jr in a game that already has a longer TTK) plus the combination of Awareness and a supercharged Sixth Sense.
Sounds like I need to give acoustic sensor a shot.
Are those basically stopping power then?
I'm liking the game but I don't love it...yet.
I'm a Hardcore player so that's where my fun is but I do appreciate the higher TTK.
Been running around with the first shotgun, with long/choked barrel, rapid fire and dragon breath. You can OHK close range but it doesn't happen all the time. When it does? It feels so good lol. Without armor, you're getting 2 hit kills most of the time.
Want to unlock the other shotgun to see how it is. Also curious about the Tac Knife.
In terms of scorestreaks, I have a care package equipped, in hopes of seeing the higher streaks. Looking forward to that sentry. Should be a game changer when defending flags. A sentry AND barbed wire? Damn, gotta try that.
Ajax and Crash are my two favorite at the moment but I may lean more towards Crash. Using that health boost is great. Just make sure your team is alive or else it seems dead ones don't get that benefit. I believe when you use this ability on a full team, you'll get +250 towards your streak. The gear to earn these abilities faster is a good one to pair this with.
Will be home soon so I may stream for the rest of the night as well. Also, if anyone wants to join up, feel free to add me: espanajefff
I'm a Hardcore player so that's where my fun is but I do appreciate the higher TTK.
Been running around with the first shotgun, with long/choked barrel, rapid fire and dragon breath. You can OHK close range but it doesn't happen all the time. When it does? It feels so good lol. Without armor, you're getting 2 hit kills most of the time.
Want to unlock the other shotgun to see how it is. Also curious about the Tac Knife.
In terms of scorestreaks, I have a care package equipped, in hopes of seeing the higher streaks. Looking forward to that sentry. Should be a game changer when defending flags. A sentry AND barbed wire? Damn, gotta try that.
Ajax and Crash are my two favorite at the moment but I may lean more towards Crash. Using that health boost is great. Just make sure your team is alive or else it seems dead ones don't get that benefit. I believe when you use this ability on a full team, you'll get +250 towards your streak. The gear to earn these abilities faster is a good one to pair this with.
Will be home soon so I may stream for the rest of the night as well. Also, if anyone wants to join up, feel free to add me: espanajefff
Don't underestimate the faster healing
I actually use lower scorestreak item. Combined with crash, it can really stack up and chain killstreaks that win the game.
And unlike acoustic, it has no counters
Just played my first match and i actually enjoyed it , submachine gun seems like the way to go. But man i didn't expect the game to look so rough , do we know what resolution it's running at?
I don't think the problem ive run into is people running in squads but people thinking they can solo run n gun entire squads. The gameplay of this game doesn't really work well for that.
I think I'm done for this weekend because my PS4 sounds like a jet engine ready to take off when I am playing. I can even hear it above my headphones.
Bring on the XBOX One weekend. Gonna get to max rank so that I can get that unlock token for the full release.
Bring on the XBOX One weekend. Gonna get to max rank so that I can get that unlock token for the full release.
Got to really give this game credit for one thing,
The shooting actually feels better than it already ever did.
Always felt good but the sound really has a bite to it in this and the health bar animation is amazing.
The shooting actually feels better than it already ever did.
Always felt good but the sound really has a bite to it in this and the health bar animation is amazing.
How are people feeling about the lack of grenades? I haven't played the beta but it's not looking great to me. Few grenades and no advanced movement is a big downer for me.
I love it because I don't have to deal with (not as often anyway) get stunned and spammed with grenades.
What I do miss is the sparrow. She was my favorite spwcsplist in BO3.
Streaming for a bit:
http://www.twitch.tv/espanajefff
Currently using the pistol.
When I saw 2xp I thought it was for our character but it's actually for weapons. So now's your chance to get those attachments!
http://www.twitch.tv/espanajefff
Currently using the pistol.
When I saw 2xp I thought it was for our character but it's actually for weapons. So now's your chance to get those attachments!
I'm not feeling it. Not sure what's off.
One thing that I do want changed, is audio in options. The goddamn SFX is all jumbled up under one volume setting, and all these guitar solos and drum solos for anything you do is annoying!! I just want gunfire and reactionary audio (and voice).
One thing that I do want changed, is audio in options. The goddamn SFX is all jumbled up under one volume setting, and all these guitar solos and drum solos for anything you do is annoying!! I just want gunfire and reactionary audio (and voice).
Playing with Battery and the Cluster Grenade feels pretty great. I love it. Had looooads of kills with it.
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Yeah she was awesome. Loved using the bow.
I'm really surprised they dropped one of the just three(!) female characters.
Me too. It's hard to adjust to not having a grenade on every spawn, but I think I'm actually doing better with it because I'm more careful. Had a 5-man kill with one grenade earlier, I wish I'd saved it.
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be running on dedicated servers. All(?) the recent CoDs have had dedicated servers and it should only fall back to P2P if it can't get you a spot on one. My games all appear to run on dedis, with about 10-20ms ping.
So after reaching level 30 i think i already have a feel of the game: in terms of gunplay, moment to moment etc it feels like the best COD since BO2, maps are a mixed bag, some are horrible, only balance issues are with the armor and the acoustic sensor as most have already said, at last i still cant believe Activision still uses a peer to peer system, buy some servers for fuck sake.
EDIT: Already got 2 Strike teams(not on a care package) and those dudes are amazing fun.
EDIT2: Also i looooove how much tatical and teamplay based this game is. Fuck i even like the Destiny cursor thing, i didnt expect to be this impressed.
EDIT: Already got 2 Strike teams(not on a care package) and those dudes are amazing fun.
EDIT2: Also i looooove how much tatical and teamplay based this game is. Fuck i even like the Destiny cursor thing, i didnt expect to be this impressed.
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Think so, they apparently shred the armour
I don't have my netduma router any more but they did have hybrid servers back in the AW days, basically a mixture of dedicated servers and P2P ones, in the UK I always connected to a dedicated server on the south coast.
Interesting, its just that i had some host migration and some pretty laggy games.
i feel like body armor to only be good but not removed or kept in it's current state is just have the armor protect you from the back.
Exactly. I would label myself as a run and gun player. I have to be in people's faces. Yesterday as I was playing, I found myself having to adjust by stopping for a few seconds before advancing and playing a bit longer of a range than before.
In previous games, I would rush two people on my own. Now, I'm checking to see if any teammates are nearby because it's not effective. I've only tried Dom/Hardpoint since I mainly play Domination in CoD, but this was my first impression.
So like Phantom's rearguard trait from Infinite Warfare. That's good, although in that case, I wouldn't put it in the valued gear section.
Search and Destroy (along with a raised player cap) should now be available to play in the beta. If you missed out this weekend, you should still be able to play next weekend as well - along with Xbox and PC.
We're also looking at performance issues that some folks are experiencing along with balancing complaints ( we track a lot of stats during gameplay and use that data for tuning ).
We're also looking at performance issues that some folks are experiencing along with balancing complaints ( we track a lot of stats during gameplay and use that data for tuning ).
But the problem is that you still get 2-3 guys rushing you and if you kill one, you are bound to die to his buddy aggressively sliding/jumping on you
His assault pack gives you +25 for each kill, and you get like +50 every time a teammate picks up some resources.
Put that together with the lower Scorestreak gear and you can chain together streaks pretty nicely
So, my criticisms with this at this point:
-I don't like that map design continues to encourage so many players to pile on in lanes. It's very tough dealing with 2v1s when enemies seem to spawn together. It's just not fun dealing with these kind of scenarios when you know you're as good as dead.
I dont know why modern COD games are like this. Play the older titles, and you will notice enemies arent nearly as packed together. I just want some breathing room between kills. it's easily my biggest annoyance with COD games now. Even the map design would be fine if it didnt force in 2-3 enemies down a corridor.
-Armour is annoying, and I also share concerns with just how many ways the game has enemies marked/spotted. It feels like Im constantly looking at the minimap, which just isn't fun to me.
I see that the fog of war instantly marks enemies within your vicinity. I really dont know how I feel about that. On one hand it kills off campers, but it allows anyone to pinpoint your location, and exacerbates the issue I have with 2-3 enemies piling on a player.
-Map design still isnt as good as older COD games. I think high TTK makes these maps more enjoyable than what I saw in games like WWII and BO3, but I generally wish map design went back to BO1, COD4, etc. Every map plays the same, and none of them really have the personality of old maps.
-I don't like that map design continues to encourage so many players to pile on in lanes. It's very tough dealing with 2v1s when enemies seem to spawn together. It's just not fun dealing with these kind of scenarios when you know you're as good as dead.
I dont know why modern COD games are like this. Play the older titles, and you will notice enemies arent nearly as packed together. I just want some breathing room between kills. it's easily my biggest annoyance with COD games now. Even the map design would be fine if it didnt force in 2-3 enemies down a corridor.
-Armour is annoying, and I also share concerns with just how many ways the game has enemies marked/spotted. It feels like Im constantly looking at the minimap, which just isn't fun to me.
I see that the fog of war instantly marks enemies within your vicinity. I really dont know how I feel about that. On one hand it kills off campers, but it allows anyone to pinpoint your location, and exacerbates the issue I have with 2-3 enemies piling on a player.
-Map design still isnt as good as older COD games. I think high TTK makes these maps more enjoyable than what I saw in games like WWII and BO3, but I generally wish map design went back to BO1, COD4, etc. Every map plays the same, and none of them really have the personality of old maps.
After a very negative first impression, i'm kinda coming around on this. Control can be a fun mode when you have two decently balanced teams going at it. It's not exactly what I want from a Call of Duty game but i'm enjoying it all the same.
Blackout is going to have to be tremendous for me to feel good picking this up though. Normally if the multiplayer is only ok I always have the campaign to fall back on (looking at you Infinite Warfare), but being a little unsure of the multi and having no campaign makes this a much tougher sell for me.
Blackout is going to have to be tremendous for me to feel good picking this up though. Normally if the multiplayer is only ok I always have the campaign to fall back on (looking at you Infinite Warfare), but being a little unsure of the multi and having no campaign makes this a much tougher sell for me.