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Ahahaha good job Danny, they made you film your mockup signing but refused to give you the same salary as max, BAM xD
that's a very nice kick in the nuts.
 

Astronut325

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Anyone here subscribe to F1 TV? I'm thinking about getting the $3/month plan. I know it doesn't have the live races, but are the races posted to that service after a few hours or days?
 

Moss

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I still think Sainz is done at RedBull, Gasly has to be the favourite for the seat. Rumours are that Sainz will join McLaren and Lando Norris will join Toro Rosso on loan, as some sort of deal so that James Key can join McLaren.
 

AlsoZ

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Max beat Sainz in their rookie season, especially in points. Sainz always seemed the more upset of the two about their rocky time at Toro Rosso. (Though that might have been because of their dads)
 

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Red Bull lost an amazing driver.

And the Renault will only improve, while nothing is certain with Honda, specially in a Red Bull.
 
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spitballing a 2019 grid real quick, albeit with some pretty big assumptions:

Mercedes: Hamilton/Bottas (confirmed)

Ferrari: Vettel/Leclerc (I think Ferrari manage to convince him/Vettel that Kimi should finally retire, or at least move down to Sauber, the B team)

Red Bull: Verstappen/Gasly (Sainz I reckon wants out of the RB system, and Verstappen can veto him as a teammate, leaving Gasly as the only real internal candidate, although I feel he'd be the weakest in the top teams by some margin)

Renault: Ricciardo/Hulkenberg (confirmed)

Haas: Magnussen/Perez (Grosjean goes back to writing cookbooks, or the WEC, Haas bring in a team-less Perez in the middle of all the FI confusion, I guess if you don't want an American driver than a Mexican one might be the next best thing)

McLaren: Sainz/Vandoorne or Norris (Alonso decides he's had enough of making insane amounts of money and goes off to do Toyota WEC and Penske or Andretti Indycar as a full time gig, McLaren replace him with Sainz after he gets passed over for the RB seat in a like-for-like Spaniard swap. I kinda doubt Norris wins F2 this year but either way they pull him out and either replace Vandoorne with him, sending Vandoorne to TR, or send him to TR and keep Vandoorne, as part of the James Key plea deal)

Whatever becomes of Force India: Ocon/Stroll (I don't think daddy Stroll actually buys FI but he at least brings the sponsorship over after he decides he's fed up at Williams, Ocon stays put)

Toro Rosso: Vandoorne or Norris/Hartley or Albon (really no idea about this, I assume it'll be 1 McLaren offcut and 1 Red Bull third-choicer, be that bringing back Hartley or re-signing Albon or whatever. Probably either Hartley/Norris or Vandoorne/Albon)

Sauber: Ericsson/Giovinazzi or Raikkonen (much like this year, it'll be Ericsson + a guy Ferrari wants around but doesn't have a place for, either Raikkonen if he doesn't want to retire or Giovinazzi or even Danil Kvyat if he does)

Williams: Sirotkin/Russell (with the Stroll money gone, Merc will give them a wad of cash to get their golden boy a seat here)
 

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I think Kimi stays on Ferrari for one more year and Leclerc goes to Haas before joining Ferrari 2020 when Kimi finally retires

Also if that happens I bet Leclerc gets the first race win for Haas in some crazy race when Vettel and Hamilton take each other out or something silly
 

Shaneus

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His comments about buying a quality product from Renault and not getting it.
Which is bullshit, because it's RBR who have been stubborn in not being willing to put in the upgraded whatever-it-is to improve reliability. If they think they're going to get better reliability out of a Honda which they'll also push to the limit, they're fucking kidding.

I almost wonder if RBR will experience a McL-esque downturn.

But the more I think about it though, the more I reckon Danny has made the right move. It'll be my first time in a while that I won't be going for a Red Bull driver, because it's the first time in 10 years (ish?) they haven't had an Aussie racing for them.
 

GestaltGaz

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Which is bullshit, because it's RBR who have been stubborn in not being willing to put in the upgraded whatever-it-is to improve reliability. If they think they're going to get better reliability out of a Honda which they'll also push to the limit, they're fucking kidding.

I almost wonder if RBR will experience a McL-esque downturn.

But the more I think about it though, the more I reckon Danny has made the right move. It'll be my first time in a while that I won't be going for a Red Bull driver, because it's the first time in 10 years (ish?) they haven't had an Aussie racing for them.
I'm with you. I'm happy to be done with them and the damn Dr. Can't wait to get some Ricciardo Renault gear. I think it's a good move too with Prost as a mentor who I believe had a similar style to Dan. Consistent and always setup his car for the race where the points are won. They'll be a good fit together.
 

Hamchan

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Which is bullshit, because it's RBR who have been stubborn in not being willing to put in the upgraded whatever-it-is to improve reliability. If they think they're going to get better reliability out of a Honda which they'll also push to the limit, they're fucking kidding.

I almost wonder if RBR will experience a McL-esque downturn.

But the more I think about it though, the more I reckon Danny has made the right move. It'll be my first time in a while that I won't be going for a Red Bull driver, because it's the first time in 10 years (ish?) they haven't had an Aussie racing for them.

Melbourne going to be full of the appropriate yellow colour for the country in 2019.

Honestly, only reason I supported Red Bull was because of Webber and Danny Ric, even while the team were shitting on those two and making them defacto number 2s while spouting their "equal driver" bullshit.

I'm actually really happy to completely villainise the whole team from now on and not have to support them anymore. Absolutely hoping they have a big downturn.
 

Shaneus

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Melbourne going to be full of the appropriate yellow colour for the country in 2019.

Honestly, only reason I supported Red Bull was because of Webber and Danny Ric, even while the team were shitting on those two and making them defacto number 2s while spouting their "equal driver" bullshit.

I'm actually really happy to completely villainise the whole team from now on and not have to support them anymore. Absolutely hoping they have a big downturn.
100% in agreeance here. I'm now seriously thinking of going next year, whereas a week ago I couldn't have given a flying fuck.
 

Rolfgang

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Melbourne going to be full of the appropriate yellow colour for the country in 2019.

Honestly, only reason I supported Red Bull was because of Webber and Danny Ric, even while the team were shitting on those two and making them defacto number 2s while spouting their "equal driver" bullshit.

I'm actually really happy to completely villainise the whole team from now on and not have to support them anymore. Absolutely hoping they have a big downturn.

I get Webber, but when was Danny ever a defacto number two driver?
 

DBT85

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Had an interesting chat with a chap who works at Brixworth yesterday. Shan't go full Wax posting baseless rumour tho.

Fans turn on you quick man :(


Also, Fuck Ferrari.
Doesn't help when they generally don't favour the driver that nearly everyone likes over the one who's a bit of a nob, which they've now done twice lol
 

X1 Two

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Had an interesting chat with a chap who works at Brixworth yesterday. Shan't go full Wax posting baseless rumour tho.


Doesn't help when they generally don't favour the driver that nearly everyone likes over the one who's a bit of a nob, which they've now done twice lol

It's almost as if Red Bull prefers the better driver of the two they have. Stupid mistake.
 

X1 Two

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Ha.

From what he said, they know ferrari aren't burning engine oil and they do know what's causing all the smoke.

Also swapped to steel pistons as the ally ones were tearing apart.

It would be so glorious if that smoke is just smoke and mirrors to make everyone hunt for something that doesn't exist.
 

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There's way of going about it, especially after Danny rinsed 4x World champion Vettel in the same car.

In the year where only missing the top 4 spots in driver's championship allowed Vettel to go to Ferrari in the first place. Ric was able to beat a Vettel that did not want to perform because a) the car wasn't a winner anymore and b) he wanted out of his contract.
 

AlsoZ

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In the year where only missing the top 4 spots in driver's championship allowed Vettel to go to Ferrari in the first place. Ric was able to beat a Vettel that did not want to perform because a) the car wasn't a winner anymore and b) he wanted out of his contract.
I'm not a particular fan of that theory. When would Vettel have made that decision? He finished worse than Ricciardo throughout most of the season, including the beginning. And to trigger that clause, someone from a third team had to finish above him - which wasn't entirely in his control.

I'm more convinced that the car didn't suit him. He's not a driver that can compensate for any car like Alonso can, he needs certain characteristics to feel comfortable driving on the limit. He said as much himself in 2014.
Though taking that into account, Ricciardo would have still been roughly on his level in a car that suits him.
 
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Dr. Marko needs to swap the drivers for the rest of the season. Gasly needs to show he's got the speed in a top car on a consistent basis and can push Verstappen. Red Bull Honda can't be going into next season with a one driver team like Toro Rosso and McLaren this year.
 

unicornKnight

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Dr. Marko needs to swap the drivers for the rest of the season. Gasly needs to show he's got the speed in a top car on a consistent basis and can push Verstappen. Red Bull Honda can't be going into next season with a one driver team like Toro Rosso and McLaren this year.
Ric would opt not to drive at all. Kvyat had nowhere to go and had to accept the situation. Danny won't do such thing.
 

endlessflood

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Dr. Marko needs to swap the drivers for the rest of the season.
I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure that Ricciardo's contract would specify that this isn't possible ;)

One thing that might be workable would be swapping Sainz and Ricciardo, since there's a chance that both drivers might be in favour. But I can't see RBR wanting that, unless they feel that Ricciardo might take some late season technical knowledge with him otherwise.
 

ODD

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Dr. Marko can f*ck himself with a cactus. That's well deserved. I just watched the Corrida do Milhão on the Brazilian Stock Car race that ended few minutes ago, and Felix da Costa did a brilliant race against all the regular drivers, many of them with international experience, including lots of ex-F1 drivers. He finished third, just behind Max Wilson (ex-CART and V8 Supercars) and Rubens Barrichello. They dumped this little Portuguese with massive talent in exchange for Russian money.
 

DBT85

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In the year where only missing the top 4 spots in driver's championship allowed Vettel to go to Ferrari in the first place. Ric was able to beat a Vettel that did not want to perform because a) the car wasn't a winner anymore and b) he wanted out of his contract.
That's a very convenient excuse.
 

Shaneus

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Yes. They have been too tolerant on Max's shit towards Ric like Budapest last year.
I'd also say as per Baku as well. VER was driving like a little shit and was clearly holding Danny up before the accident. Almost wonder if that was the tipping point for RIC when they were placing equal blame on both for that.

Fans turn on you quick man :(
I was only ever a fan of RBR because they had Australian drivers for the last 10 years. I like to think most fans follow drivers for the most part, with the exception of teams like Ferrari and the tifosi.
 

Hamchan

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I'm thinking even if Vettel didn't veto Danny Ric, Ferrari wouldn't have picked him.

It's looking like all the top teams are doing a number 1 and number 2 driver set up. Danny Ric is a number 1 driver and there's no more room for that at Ferrari or Merc. There's clearly no room for him anymore at Red Bull too.

Taking a gamble, moving to Renault and building the team around himself as number 1 was the best move.