Should I buy GT Sport?

somewheretohide · Aug 4, 2018

3 main reasons I haven't bought yet myself:-

#1. Can only save online.
- So what happens in years (maybe 2?) when this game will then be useless?

#2. I get the feeling most cars are sports cars but I really like racing normal cars or the muscle cars
- Is there a list of normal cars available?

#3. Lack of tracks. Not interested in different layouts .Would love old GT3 tracks as well as Complex D and other greats such as Spar....

After recently getting a 4K TV and a G29, I am tempted as only £11 but I've still not bought out of principle of the above.

ghostcrew · Aug 4, 2018

somewheretohide said:
3 main reasons I haven't bought yet myself:-

#1. Can only save online.
- So what happens in years (maybe 2?) when this game will then be useless?

#2. I get the feeling most cars are sports cars but I really like racing normal cars or the muscle cars
- Is there a list of normal cars available?

#3. Lack of tracks. Not interested in different layouts .Would love old GT3 tracks as well as Complex D and other greats such as Spar....

After recently getting a 4K TV and a G29, I am tempted as only £11 but I've still not bought out of principle of the above.

I like GTS but I would say all of these are valid concerns. Saving offline is obviously a YMMV problem (I'm always online so it hasn't affected me yet!) but the car and track selection is lacking.

R.T Straker · Aug 4, 2018

ethomaz said:
That exactly why I said it is the best racing games on console by a good margin... others racing game actually needs to catch after GTS evolved racing games on consoles.

iRacing is probably the best comparison with GTS but it is on PC... a lot of ideias used in GTS are presents in that racer too.

Not even close.

Like someone said above there's plenty racers that are way better and GT S is not even the best in it's own genre either.

It's pretty sad that GT has come to trade blows with racers made by indie studios like AC or PC 2 and fail to come out on top.

Comparing it with either Forza is just laughable.

AaronWatermelon · Aug 4, 2018

ghostcrew said:
This is the main thing that is still missing from GTS for me. Part of old GT games to me was all the 'regular' cars at the start and tuning them up to silly degrees (even if I didn't know what I doing - just watching the numbers go up!) and racing them. GTS seems very focused on the racing spec stuff and special cars.

It was so much fun, huh? I really do hope for a more traditional GT in the future, but there are a few "civilian" grade cars in Sport that I've had a great time lowering and doing all sorts of dumb shit with. Not the same by any means, but there's a lot more variety in car makes than I expected (which was mostly supercars and prototype stuff)

riverfr0zen · Aug 4, 2018

somewheretohide said:
3 main reasons I haven't bought yet myself:-

#1. Can only save online.
- So what happens in years (maybe 2?) when this game will then be useless?

After recently getting a 4K TV and a G29, I am tempted as only £11 but I've still not bought out of principle of the above.

I think it's unlikely enough that they will shut it down in 2 years. If they do for some reason, they will probably enable offline saving since it probably means the Sport/FIA arrangement is over, so there is no point to block offline saves anymore.

Come on man, 11 quid for some of the best shit possible on your new 4K TV; stop pleasure delaying ;)

somewheretohide · Aug 4, 2018

riverfr0zen said:
I think it's unlikely enough that they will shut it down in 2 years. If they do for some reason, they will probably enable offline saving since it probably means the Sport/FIA arrangement is over, so there is no point to block offline saves anymore.

Come on man, 11 quid for some of the best shit possible on your new 4K TV; stop pleasure delaying ;)

I'm close lol but still not done as feel like I'm buying it because its £11 where I still have Driveclub, PC1 and Dirt Rally.

Dirt being the one I'm really thinking about sinking some serious time into after a shifter and handbrake mod to my g29 along with a diy set up of some stereo transducers.

Edit:- I also played the demo on my PJ a while back and wasn't overly impressed with the graphics. Seemed pretty standard....

Azerach · Aug 4, 2018

256 hours in I feel like I got my moneys worth.

For online it's by far the best experience out there for consoles. Spent about 50 hours racing online.

Single player is fun but it's not a guided experience like the past games.

Edit:

Frox said:
Not even close.

Like someone said above there's plenty racers that are way better and GT S is not even the best in it's own genre either.

It's pretty sad that GT has come to trade blows with racers made by indie studios like AC or PC 2 and fail to come out on top.

Comparing it with either Forza is just laughable.

AC has zero attraction with it's single player. No ranked matchmaking.

PC2 is a similar clusterfuck as PC1 was. Also no ranked matchmaking.

Forza is more comparable to Driveclub in its physics. Different kind of game really. Also no ranked matchmaking.

Deleted member 37928 · Aug 4, 2018

I've played it for almost 300 hours. It's one of those games that just pulls you in and entertains you with a lot of varied content. I loved everything about it; the photo mode, livery creator, challenges, circuit experience, lobby, sport mode etc. My only gripe is perhaps the track number, which is very low. And many of them are familiar as well so there's not many surprises.

somewheretohide said:
After recently getting a 4K TV and a G29, I am tempted as only £11 but I've still not bought out of principle of the above.

Those are two major reasons alone to buy it for that ridiculously low price. It is one of the best looking games of the generation and it feels superb with a racing wheel. You will likely never get a better chance to test the potential of that investment.

Sonicfan059 · Aug 4, 2018

Frox said:
Not even close.

Like someone said above there's plenty racers that are way better and GT S is not even the best in it's own genre either.

It's pretty sad that GT has come to trade blows with racers made by indie studios like AC or PC 2 and fail to come out on top.

Comparing it with either Forza is just laughable.

It's laughab that you put Forza at the top. It gets outclassed by those two games you just mentioned.

To the OP, GTS does break tradition but in a good way imo. The single player is all about teaching you how to drive better. It does a better job in helping you to become a better driver than any simulator before it.

R.T Straker · Aug 4, 2018

Sonicfan059 said:
It's laughab that you put Forza at the top. It gets outclassed by those two games you just mentioned.

Motosport? Yes.

Horizon? Not even close.

Tho they're not really comparable in a direct way since both AC and PC 2 are proper sims and Horizon is pretty much a simcade with the slider going more into the arcade way.

eso76 · Aug 4, 2018

somewheretohide said:
3 main reasons I haven't bought yet myself:-

#1. Can only save online.
- So what happens in years (maybe 2?) when this game will then be useless?

#2. I get the feeling most cars are sports cars but I really like racing normal cars or the muscle cars
- Is there a list of normal cars available?

#3. Lack of tracks. Not interested in different layouts .Would love old GT3 tracks as well as Complex D and other greats such as Spar....

After recently getting a 4K TV and a G29, I am tempted as only £11 but I've still not bought out of principle of the above.

#1 is annoying. My PS4 is always online when it's on, but since I seldom use it I always shut it down and as a result I often have to update if I want to go online.
Sometimes I just want to play GTS and advance in career mode, turn on PS4, am told I need to update, can't be arsed.

#2 is my number one problem with it. What I liked the most about these games was picking an everyday car and racing it. Not even necessarily upgrading it, just racing it around improvised tracks.
That was my problem with forza Motorsport after 4 too: it removed most normal cars. Forza gradually reintroduced them but it's still not the same, especially sonce the focus shifted to actual racetracks (not ideal for your 2015 1.3cc Ford Fiesta).

#3 this i dont agree with. Yes, GTS doesn't have many tracks but the selection still offers a lot of diversity. It didn't feel like it was lacking as a result, to me at least.

elektrixx · Aug 4, 2018

Gran Turismo Sport can be found for real cheap, so that's a reason to go for it. I'd prefer you bought Forza Motorsport 7 though.

Those Forza Rewards are my weekly ritual. Forza Motorsport is my podcast game, which feeds into Forza Horizon and most of the other games via weekly payouts. Here's where I'm at:

Diablos · Aug 4, 2018

It's easily the worst major game purchase I've made for PS4. It has lots of potential but is severely held back by really bad decisions and poor execution. I wish I could get my $20 back.

Riderz1337 · Aug 4, 2018

somewheretohide said:
3 main reasons I haven't bought yet myself:-

#1. Can only save online.
- So what happens in years (maybe 2?) when this game will then be useless?

#2. I get the feeling most cars are sports cars but I really like racing normal cars or the muscle cars
- Is there a list of normal cars available?

#3. Lack of tracks. Not interested in different layouts .Would love old GT3 tracks as well as Complex D and other greats such as Spar....

After recently getting a 4K TV and a G29, I am tempted as only £11 but I've still not bought out of principle of the above.

If they shut down the online then they can easily enable offline saving. Right now the reason they don't allow it offline is for some FIA championship or whatever but if that ceases to exist then it can easily be disabled.

The car and track selection is much better now than it is on launch. Definitely a lot more road cars and a few muscle cars available, but alas they can't match the thrill/adrenaline you get when driving any of the sportier/super cars.

One thing I like is the fantasy tracks. Polyphony make the best fantasy tracks in the genre, bar none, and they have a lot more coming down the pipe line from previous GT games.

OH and all of the updates thus far have been completely free, which is nice

Riderz1337 · Aug 4, 2018

tomofthepops said:
How much of a grind is getting cars ? Don't want to invest days of play to just get one not that good car.

The game gives out free cars like candy.

I think I've went to the store to buy a car I didn't have only a couple of times.

Riderz1337 · Aug 4, 2018

tomofthepops said:
How much of a grind is getting cars ? Don't want to invest days of play to just get one not that good car.

The game gives out free cars like candy.

I think I've went to the store to buy a car I didn't have only a couple of times.

Juj · Aug 4, 2018

It's a game about the racing. Straight up. I feel like the added GT league (their attempt at a career mode) is so bare boned (there's no story for example). There is a lot of technical options to tune your car, but not in the way of buying new equipment for the car like in a NFS game for example to gradually increase the power of your car, you can press on a button to level it up after you get some points from racing.

If you like the idea of some of the best racing experience too (GT sport was the first time I 'got' sim race games, because the tutorial is very good in explaining how driving on a race track actually works and so on) - then buy it.

If you're looking for something with a bit more features, where you can sit and tinker around with different parts of your car and so I believe another game would be better

Tusken77 · Aug 4, 2018

Azerach said:
256 hours in I feel like I got my moneys worth.

For online it's by far the best experience out there for consoles. Spent about 50 hours racing online.

Single player is fun but it's not a guided experience like the past games.

OP, this is how I feel. I'd say definitely worth purchasing, it's fantastic.

Sonicfan059 · Aug 4, 2018

Frox said:
Motosport? Yes.

Horizon? Not even close.

Tho they're not really comparable in a direct way since both AC and PC 2 are proper sims and Horizon is pretty much a simcade with the slider going more into the arcade way.

Yes Motorsport. Horizon isn't even being considered. It'd be like comparing NFS to these games.

ethomaz · Aug 4, 2018

Hedon said:
GT Sport doesn't even come close to iRacing, PC2, Asseto, Race Pro and the like as far as physics and simulation. GT Sport is still a simcade like Forza.

Frox said:
Not even close.

Like someone said above there's plenty racers that are way better and GT S is not even the best in it's own genre either.

It's pretty sad that GT has come to trade blows with racers made by indie studios like AC or PC 2 and fail to come out on top.

Comparing it with either Forza is just laughable.

Sorry but except for iRacing neither of the others do what GTS does... they are stuck in the past.

GTS envolved the sim racing games on consoles just like iRacing did on PC.

AC and pCars2 do somes things great but basically does nothing for others parts... they looks unfinished and unpolished.

There is nothing like GTS on consoles and there is nothing like iRacing on PC... others games needs to play the catch up ASAP.

somewheretohide · Aug 4, 2018

Just bought it - I'm a sucker!

s3ltz3r · Aug 4, 2018

Yes! The racing genre is the least of my priorities, but the game has been super fun, and I play it consistently enough. But yea, the whole racing genre for me is meh, Im not even buying Forza Horizon 4 until it is steeply discounted....if ever.

M1chl · Aug 4, 2018

s3ltz3r said:
Yes! The racing genre is the least of my priorities, but the game has been super fun, and I play it consistently enough. But yea, the whole racing genre for me is meh, Im not even buying Forza Horizon 4 until it is steeply discounted....if ever.

OT: Well it's going to be on the GamePass so you can get your trial ready for that.

s3ltz3r · Aug 4, 2018

M1chl said:
OT: Well it's going to be on the GamePass so you can get your trial ready for that.

It a matter of spending time. Racing games are low priority, so even as free, I don't see myself spending time with Forza Horizon 4.

Sky87 · Aug 4, 2018

Haven't seen the OP post after his initial post, but if singleplayer and content were your two major concerns then i can't really recommend the game in its current form. I'm sure the online is great (haven't got PS Plus, so can't comment on that part), but the SP stuff is really lack-luster compared to the earlier GT's. I miss upgrading ordinary starter road cars by buying new components and making them crazy powerful. I feel the ''campaign'' in Sport is too strict in that regard. The game is also really lacking in tracks and cars compared to earlier GT's, which i found strange considering it launched so late in PS4's life cycle.

I can't understand how anyone can say GT Sport has a good offering for singleplayer centric gamers when comparing it to other racers. If you do own PS Plus and are into multiplayer though, i'm sure the game is great, if not better than most other racers currently.

John Wick · Aug 4, 2018

Heromanz said:
Got paid and looking for something to buy. I was put off by the lack of single player and content at launch. And how different it was compared to old games. Have things changed for the better or wors

Heromanz said:

Got paid and looking for something to buy. I was put off by the lack of single player and content at launch. And how different it was compared to old games. Have things changed for the better or worse?

Click to expand...

Click to shrink...

Sport mode is sublime!
I hated some of the previous GT games. The driving was unexciting and didn't feel fun.
Now the driving is exhilarating and great fun. Even with a pad it feels great. I couldn't go back to the old GT's

M1chl · Aug 4, 2018

s3ltz3r said:
It a matter of spending time. Racing games are low priority, so even as free, I don't see myself spending time with Forza Horizon 4.

Ohh, alright, get it : )

Crayon · Aug 4, 2018

At that sale price it's a safe bet.

xFiona · Aug 4, 2018

ethomaz said:
Sorry but except for iRacing neither of the others do what GTS does... they are stuck in the past.

GTS envolved the sim racing games on consoles just like iRacing did on PC.

AC and pCars2 do somes things great but basically does nothing for others parts... they looks unfinished and unpolished.

There is nothing like GTS on consoles and there is nothing like iRacing on PC... others games needs to play the catch up ASAP.

Nope. As far as simulation realism, GT Sport and Forza Motorsport are not even in the same league as those other racers. AC, PCars, iR, etc. all simulate driving and racing substantially better. Sure, they are not as polished as GT and Forza in their graphics, their UI, the stability, the bugs, nor the sales. But those sim racers do exceed at what is most important. Simulation. GT Sport and Forza will always be seen as the simcade.

I play AC, PC2, GTS, FM interchangeably all the time. I took a break from iRacing. GTS and FM would need to start over from the ground up if they want to be sim racers, but then they would alienate most of their audience, which tend to be the more casuals.

If you want to see more good info on sim racing, checkout insideracingtv. They have great stuff on the wheels, hardware and games and the realism. If you are big into sim racing, generally you will get laughed out of the room if you bring up GT/FM. Personally, I enjoy them.

Kaze13 · Aug 4, 2018

Heromanz said:
Got paid and looking for something to buy. I was put off by the lack of single player and content at launch. And how different it was compared to old games. Have things changed for the better or worse?

Buy if you want actual competitive simulation style racing online on console. Buy if you like sublime graphics and detail. Buy if you are not going to strictly play Single Player. If you are in it just for Single Player, DO NOT BUY.

xrnzaaas · Aug 4, 2018

For a quarter of the original price (in the new EU sale) it's a steal. Even if you won't fall in love with the Sport mode there's still plenty of singleplayer content to enjoy.

ThanksgivingDinner · Aug 4, 2018

Astronut325 said:
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Thanks for the link! I'll be reading more about that today.

ethomaz · Aug 4, 2018

Hedon said:
Nope. As far as simulation realism, GT Sport and Forza Motorsport are not even in the same league as those other racers. AC, PCars, iR, etc. all simulate driving and racing substantially better. Sure, they are not as polished as GT and Forza in their graphics, their UI, the stability, the bugs, nor the sales. But those sim racers do exceed at what is most important. Simulation. GT Sport and Forza will always be seen as the simcade.

I play AC, PC2, GTS, FM interchangeably all the time. I took a break from iRacing. GTS and FM would need to start over from the ground up if they want to be sim racers, but then they would alienate most of their audience, which tend to be the more casuals.

If you want to see more good info on sim racing, checkout insideracingtv. They have great stuff on the wheels, hardware and games and the realism. If you are big into sim racing, generally you will get laughed out of the room if you bring up GT/FM. Personally, I enjoy them.

I strong disagree so far in simulation GTS loses nothing to AC or pCARs... but hey gamers should play what they believe is better.

xFiona · Aug 4, 2018

ethomaz said:
but hey gamers should play what they believe is better.

True. We will just agree to disagree.

Crayon · Aug 4, 2018

I don't feel like the absolute fidelity of the simulation is all important. We all loved classic gt because it gave a satisfying impression of driving.

feroca · Aug 4, 2018

Waiting for a similar sale in NA to grab it.

Azerach · Aug 4, 2018

Hedon said:
Nope. As far as simulation realism, GT Sport and Forza Motorsport are not even in the same league as those other racers. AC, PCars, iR, etc. all simulate driving and racing substantially better.

Regarding GTS that is just plain wrong. none of these games are 100% there in terms of simulation. Some fall victim to the age old "harder is better", some on feature creep where they try to simulate tons of things but the whole package lands farther from real racing than simpler games. GTS is a full on sim and belongs right there with AC, PC and iRacing.

Sonicfan059 · Aug 4, 2018

To address the OP, who cares about content? The ONLY thing people care about in racing simulators are the trees and I can confirm GTS has the best trees of any of them. Light realistically transfers through foliage and reflects off at certain angles just like real life. Lots of them actually real trunks too.

Now let's be honest, when racing simulators come out the only thing ANYONE complains about is how the trees look compared to the cars. Here you're getting much better tree simulation as well.

Apex88 · Aug 5, 2018

somewheretohide said:
3 main reasons I haven't bought yet myself:-

#1. Can only save online.
- So what happens in years (maybe 2?) when this game will then be useless?

#2. I get the feeling most cars are sports cars but I really like racing normal cars or the muscle cars
- Is there a list of normal cars available?

#3. Lack of tracks. Not interested in different layouts .Would love old GT3 tracks as well as Complex D and other greats such as Spar....

After recently getting a 4K TV and a G29, I am tempted as only £11 but I've still not bought out of principle of the above.

1. What are you expecting to happen in 2 years? Short of PSN being turned off I don't see the issue.

2. There is a huge list of non-sportscars, classics and muscle cars. And due to the quality of the modelling, sounds and physics, they all look, sound and feel unique. So many current games (and old GT's) copy & pasted these elements to the point few had a character of their own.

3. I don't know what the current number of tracks are right now but I go weeks before completing the full rotation. Plus there's been a new track (and variations) released most months.

If you have a 4K TV and G29 you cannot imagine what you're missing out on. I've played sims for 30 years, I have over 400hrs in GT Sport, I no longer even keep the likes of Assetto Corsa, PCars, Dirt etc. on my HDD.

Kaze13 said:
Buy if you want actual competitive simulation style racing online on console. Buy if you like sublime graphics and detail. Buy if you are not going to strictly play Single Player. If you are in it just for Single Player, DO NOT BUY.

There's already far, far more single-player content that all but the most exhaustive RPG's. A quick glance at the Campaign, Driving School and Circuit Experience will give you an idea of how many weeks, if not month(s), it will take to get through it all. And that's without factoring in other features like Scapes and the Livery Creator.

xFiona · Aug 5, 2018

Azerach said:
Regarding GTS that is just plain wrong. none of these games are 100% there in terms of simulation. Some fall victim to the age old "harder is better", some on feature creep where they try to simulate tons of things but the whole package lands farther from real racing than simpler games. GTS is a full on sim and belongs right there with AC, PC and iRacing.

Not even close. But there is no reason to try and sway your opinion.

Mexen · Aug 5, 2018

Things to be wary of:
1. Massive update
2. Online requirement

If you can deal with that, you are in for a fantastic driving sim!

DrDeckard · Aug 5, 2018

Gran turismo sport is 10.99 on the UK store with ps plus. That price is insane. Well worth the purchase for a tech demo alone. Can't believe how fast it's dropped to a rock bottom price

xrnzaaas · Aug 5, 2018

Mexen said:
Things to be wary of:
1. Massive update
2. Online requirement

With number 1 it's also the requirement for a lot of free space on the hdd (for every single update). I don't have an exact number but it's at least 80-90GB, otherwise the game won't update and you won't be able to play it (aside from offline with no progression saves). It's pretty annoying, me and buddy encountered this issue, I actually ended up deleting GTS (for the time being) because I didn't want to delete other big games from the library.

MysticGon · Aug 5, 2018

I bought it on sale for $19.99. It's incredible value. Sure it's less content that other racers but what does it does EXTREMELY well. I highly recommend it.

Kaze13 · Aug 5, 2018

Apex88 said:
There's already far, far more single-player content that all but the most exhaustive RPG's. A quick glance at the Campaign, Driving School and Circuit Experience will give you an idea of how many weeks, if not month(s), it will take to get through it all. And that's without factoring in other features like Scapes and the Livery Creator.

The Driving School and Circuit Experience didnt take me that long but the Campaign is just boring now with the online component. Give me an incentive to finish those! Finish Endurance Race? Award GX or GR1/2 car. Something like that would make me want to complete it. You can definitely spend hours in Scapes and Livery Creator though lol.

MP! · Aug 6, 2018

Astronut325 said:
You never needed PS+ to save. You just need to be connected to the internet.

Oh I always figured you needed PS+
I equated "need internet to save" to needing PS+... if not PS+ then what's the internet connection for?

WillySJ3 · Aug 6, 2018

MP! said:
Oh I always figured you needed PS+
I equated "need internet to save" to needing PS+... if not PS+ then what's the internet connection for?

https://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/09/14/gran-turismo-sport-eight-things-you-need-to-know/

In order to ensure fair racing for all, GT Sport will require an internet connection for the majority of functionality. This connectivity requirement is to ensure that progress, car availability, and driver ratings are properly maintained at all times.

PlayStation Plus will only be needed for online multiplayer. Portions of the Arcade Mode, including limited two-player split screen, single-player races on select tracks, and time trials can still be played in an offline environment.

MP! · Aug 6, 2018

WillySJ3 said:
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/09/14/gran-turismo-sport-eight-things-you-need-to-know/

thanks

Roy · Aug 6, 2018

somewheretohide said:
3 main reasons I haven't bought yet myself:-

#1. Can only save online.
- So what happens in years (maybe 2?) when this game will then be useless?

#2. I get the feeling most cars are sports cars but I really like racing normal cars or the muscle cars
- Is there a list of normal cars available?

#3. Lack of tracks. Not interested in different layouts .Would love old GT3 tracks as well as Complex D and other greats such as Spar....

After recently getting a 4K TV and a G29, I am tempted as only £11 but I've still not bought out of principle of the above.

I use a G29 too and while the latest update has improved FFB some but it's still miles behind F1 2017. Even PC2 is quite a bit better.

Crayon · Aug 6, 2018

At $20 and under, my reccomendation leans hard towards "yes buy it".

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