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Twentieth

Member
Oct 26, 2017
373
Weird enough that they chose two songs with his name on it only to remove it. Developers chose the songs and the NFL told them to censor his name, I suppose?
 

Fitts

You know what that means
Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,234
Yup so it was EA who was just shit stirring. Well, at least they got people talking about their mediocre game I suppose.
 

TooBusyLookinGud

Graphics Engineer
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
7,966
California
For people who are still onboard after the last several years of racism, misogyny, and brain damage, I very much doubt that this will be the final straw for too many people. But ratings are down, and they are down for a reason.
With them trying to push that anthem rule, I am sure their ratings will be worse than last years.
 

Driver

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,053
Southern California
I'm surprised EA just didn't pick one of the million other songs that don't mention Colin Kaepernick. They're idiots for picking the song. They're even bigger idits for editing the song. God EA sucks.
 

Powdered Egg

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
17,070
The last Madden I bought new was 09 and I bought 11 used for around five bucks. Last week i was contemplating a Madden 19 purchase to get some online matches in. This news cost them $60.
 

Thurston Last

Banned
Jul 26, 2018
1,350
So what's the consensus here:

1. NFL directed EA To do this cuz they mad at Kaepernick.

2. EA did it on purpose because they don't like Kaepernick.

3. Dumb mistake around not understanding the legality of including him in the game.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,689
EA's incompetence + NFL's shittiness = Whatever the fuck this situation is

Poor Kap, man. Even RG3 has a contract rn. Shit's not fair
 

ISOM

Banned
Nov 6, 2017
2,684
So what's the consensus here:

1. NFL directed EA To do this cuz they mad at Kaepernick.

2. EA did it on purpose because they don't like Kaepernick.

3. Dumb mistake around not understanding the legality of including him in the game.

He's not in the game. He's in the song. They have nothing to do with each other. If there was a legal area it would be taken by Kaepernick for having a song include his name but that's not the issue here.
 

Htown

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,320
So what's the consensus here:

1. NFL directed EA To do this cuz they mad at Kaepernick.

2. EA did it on purpose because they don't like Kaepernick.

3. Dumb mistake around not understanding the legality of including him in the game.
Either somebody at the NFL directed them to do it, or EA did it on their own because they thought the NFL wanted them to do it and they don't want to rock the boat and jeopardize their exclusive license in the future.

The legality excuse is complete bullshit.
 

AztecComplex

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,371
you know what? they didn't give some fluffy vague pr statement subtly dodging any kind of accountability and actually said the words "we made an unfortunate mistake" and "we messed up" and they explicitly apologized to Colin, YG, and Big Sean

is it the truth? who knows, but as far as statements from big corporations go it's solid

still though, fuck the NFL and fuck Roger Goodell
100%. Case closed.
 

Nabs

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,695
Remember folks, EA pulled this shit last year as well. Tweets on the other page.
 

Deleted member 11421

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,935
So what's the consensus here:

1. NFL directed EA To do this cuz they mad at Kaepernick.

2. EA did it on purpose because they don't like Kaepernick.

3. Dumb mistake around not understanding the legality of including him in the game.

Probably a combination of 1 and 3, but 2 isn't impossible. However, the developers had him in the game last year as an option for people to sign, but somebody else removed him from a song.

Whoever handles the music editing might never have even interacted with the devs responsible for keeping him available. Or maybe they didn't like Kaepernick and thought they were being slick.
 

Dorfdad

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
731
It's silly they cut his name from the song and they are correcting it, but personally I don't care for the guy and glad he's out of the NFL for his antics.
 

deepFlaw

Knights of Favonius World Tour '21
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,497
Oh, regarding last year's game, I saw this by chance last night:



Not that the claim makes any sense to me, though...
 

OneBadMutha

Member
Nov 2, 2017
6,059
President bends a knee to Putin due to corruption. NFL leadership bends a knee to the President out of cowardess. Yet we punish a black athlete for peacefully protesting injustice.

Fuck the NFL! Don't care what your political beliefs are. This is cowardess. Not supporting the product until there's a new commissioner with different values.
 

Driver

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,053
Southern California
Maybe people should stop buying Madden and stop watching the NFL.

Madden has sucked for a long time but football is still great. I don't see why EA cutting Kaepernicks name from a song makes you think the world should stop watching football. It's ok to disagree with certain aspects of things while still enjoying them.

President bends a knee to Putin due to corruption. NFL leadership bends a knee to the President out of cowardess. Yet we punish a black athlete for peacefully protesting injustice.

Fuck the NFL! Don't care what your political beliefs are. This is cowardess. Not supporting the product until there's a new commissioner with different values.

What? When did the NFL concede anything to Trump? I thought the NFL reversed the anthem protest ban the owners voted for in June.
 

marrec

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
6,775
Madden has sucked for a long time but football is still great. I don't see why EA cutting Kaepernicks name from a song makes you think the world should stop watching football. It's ok to disagree with certain aspects of things while still enjoying them.

You don't see the connection between the NFLs continued blackballing of Kaep and this EA debacle?
 

marrec

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
6,775
I see it as typical EA incompetence. I think EA was trying to avoid a lawsuit and there was a serious lack of communication. I do not think the NFL pressured EA to remove the lyric.

It's possible that EA pre-empted any request by the NFL and removed without any feedback. I think that's like in fact. However it comes from the NFLs egregious treatment of Kaep and their hardline stance against protest as a whole.

Also, the actual product they're putting out is increasingly boring anyway.
 

Driver

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,053
Southern California
They knew it would cause controversy, why even include the song then

That's what I'm wondering, just avoid the whole debacle and pick a different song. Hard to expect anything but the worst decisions from EA anymore.

It's possible that EA pre-empted any request by the NFL and removed without any feedback. I think that's like in fact. However it comes from the NFLs egregious treatment of Kaep and their hardline stance against protest as a whole.

Also, the actual product they're putting out is increasingly boring anyway.

Too many play reviews are slowing the game down. Constantly changing rules around helmet contact are making nearly every play flaggable. Game tickets are way too expensive to also charge so much for concessions. As an ex-season ticket holder of 10 years, I can definitely agree the product is getting boring and it's costing them money.
 

Zohar127

Member
Oct 27, 2017
171
So what's the consensus here:

1. NFL directed EA To do this cuz they mad at Kaepernick.

2. EA did it on purpose because they don't like Kaepernick.

3. Dumb mistake around not understanding the legality of including him in the game.

My thoughts...

4. An individual audio dev experienced some kind of miscommunication between a few other individuals and ended up making an unnecessary edit that was just unlucky enough for it to relate tangentially to an unmitigated political shit storm. And because it's EA it just makes it fresh bait for the "EA is evil" circle jerk to blow it way out of proportion and start ass-pulling theories about internal conspiracies between the NFL and EA. Sprinkle in outright rejection of EAs statement about how it was simply a mistake, and their reversal of the edit as a campaign of lies and deceit instead of just simply correcting the error, and there ya go. Simple.

Can no one accept that it was simply human error? Does everything have to be a fucking conspiracy?
 

GlitchyDegree

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Dec 4, 2017
5,491
It's silly they cut his name from the song and they are correcting it, but personally I don't care for the guy and glad he's out of the NFL for his antics.
He kneeled during a shitty song to protest a very serious issue in our country that's way bigger than your stupid ball game. Get the fuck over it.
Ya how could anyone like someone who protests police brutality what a jerk right
I know right? Leave the politics at home we got a game of football to play!
 
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Dorfdad

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
731
User Banned (1 week): Inflammatory false equivalencies surrounding race
He kneeled during a shitty song to protest a very serious issue in our country that's way bigger than your stupid ball game. Get the fuck over it.
I know right? Leave the politics at home we got a game of football to play!

A Shitty song?? Really that's not flame bait bannable offense here? But I assume since I'm goi g to call you out as a piece of shit for your comment on America I'll be reprimanded. I fought for this country for 4 years served time during the Gulf wars and Panama.

My fellow soilders risked their lives for this country so pardon me if me and millions of others are offended that a rich millionaire who works for an organization decides to disrespect both his profession his country and millions of others and some who gave their lives for our freedoms. Yeah I got a problem with him he's a pile of shit.

The cause of social injustice and racial profiling is a legit issue and sadly it does happen in BOTH directions and needs to be addressed. Not on the NFL stage, Not hijacking the national anthem and offending us.

maybe someday your kids will grow up and serve a country and if they happen to parish doing it you might change your tune on what's acceptable and disgracful.

There are plenty of other ways to get the message out that would gather more support.
 

bishoptl

Remember
Member
Oct 26, 2017
699
Vancouver
The cause of social injustice and racial profiling is a legit issue and sadly it does happen in BOTH directions and needs to be addressed. Not on the NFL stage, Not hijacking the national anthem and offending us.

maybe someday your kids will grow up and serve a country and if they happen to parish doing it you might change your tune on what's acceptable and disgracful.

There are plenty of other ways to get the message out that would gather more support.
Thank you for your service.

You're full of it, however.

As Kaepernick later explained, his protest had nothing to do with the military. He was protesting police violence against minorities. After talking with Army vet and former Seahawks long snapper Nate Boyer, Kaepernick decided that, in order to show respect for those who have served, he would no longer sit during the anthem. Boyer suggested a new form of protest…

cheers
 

AimLow

Member
Dec 10, 2017
969
Holy crap. This whole time I thought his last name was Kirkpatrick.

*head explode gif*
 

affeinvasion

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,953
If only the US national anthem wasn't originally a British drinking song, we could imbue it with the sacred respect it deserves. But it is.
 

bonch00ski

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,813
A Shitty song?? Really that's not flame bait bannable offense here? But I assume since I'm goi g to call you out as a piece of shit for your comment on America I'll be reprimanded. I fought for this country for 4 years served time during the Gulf wars and Panama.

My fellow soilders risked their lives for this country so pardon me if me and millions of others are offended that a rich millionaire who works for an organization decides to disrespect both his profession his country and millions of others and some who gave their lives for our freedoms. Yeah I got a problem with him he's a pile of shit.

The cause of social injustice and racial profiling is a legit issue and sadly it does happen in BOTH directions and needs to be addressed. Not on the NFL stage, Not hijacking the national anthem and offending us.

maybe someday your kids will grow up and serve a country and if they happen to parish doing it you might change your tune on what's acceptable and disgracful.

There are plenty of other ways to get the message out that would gather more support.


Yeah you really haven't kept yourself in the loop on this to know that an army vet actually told him kneeling is the respectful thing to do.

Nice try though dude!
 

Dorfdad

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
731
Yeah you really haven't kept yourself in the loop on this to know that an army vet actually told him kneeling is the respectful thing to do.

Nice try though dude!

Sure bud I talked to an African American who said it was cool for me to use the N word as well. Guess what millions of others would punch me In The nuts for saying it.

I do t because it's disrepctful and I have followed this forever so good try bud.
 

bonch00ski

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,813
Sure bud I talked to an African American who said it was cool for me to use the N word as well. Guess what millions of others would punch me In The nuts for saying it.

I do t because it's disrepctful and I have followed this forever so good try bud.


So you're putting kneeling for the anthem and saying the N word on the same level?
 

TheYanger

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,153
Either somebody at the NFL directed them to do it, or EA did it on their own because they thought the NFL wanted them to do it and they don't want to rock the boat and jeopardize their exclusive license in the future.

The legality excuse is complete bullshit.
This. Extremely unlikely EA as a corporate entity has any opinion on the matter, but that they would rather not rock the boat with the NFL would be why it would be on EA and not the NFL.

A Shitty song?? Really that's not flame bait bannable offense here? But I assume since I'm goi g to call you out as a piece of shit for your comment on America I'll be reprimanded. I fought for this country for 4 years served time during the Gulf wars and Panama.

My fellow soilders risked their lives for this country so pardon me if me and millions of others are offended that a rich millionaire who works for an organization decides to disrespect both his profession his country and millions of others and some who gave their lives for our freedoms. Yeah I got a problem with him he's a pile of shit.

The cause of social injustice and racial profiling is a legit issue and sadly it does happen in BOTH directions and needs to be addressed. Not on the NFL stage, Not hijacking the national anthem and offending us.

maybe someday your kids will grow up and serve a country and if they happen to parish doing it you might change your tune on what's acceptable and disgracful.

There are plenty of other ways to get the message out that would gather more support.
Last I checked, standing for the anthem isn't a sign of respect for soldiers. It has nothing to do with you. Source: My entire family, from the time this country was formed, has been soldiers. You know how I respect soldiers? By individually respecting them when I meet them. By observing their sacrifices on veterans day and memorial day. Not by standing for the national anthem at a sporting event.