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Deleted member 9197

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Oct 26, 2017
660
Its his money, he can do whatever he wants. stop being so salty. People shouldn't work fo amazon if they have issue with wage or working conditions.

Instead of complaining about Bezos, people should take it up to government to get rid of tax avoidance loopholes. He is just smart at what he does. Not commiting any crime.

You are correct. Tax law must change to prevent situational like this from happening. Unfortunately, people like Bezos have a disproportionate amount of political influence and can shape the direction of tax law in his favor far more easily than your average American voter. This is a fact.

But what really chaps my ass is this comment: "People shouldn't work fo[r] amazon if they have issues[ s ] with wage or working conditions."

That's bullshit. I don't have time to really get into this, but this is what's happening: Amazon specifically goes to communities with low tax rates and low paid workers so that they can pay less for labor than they would have to in places with more diverse economies, for instance. In a town like mine, small businesses have been decimated over the years by companies like Wal-Mart and Amazon, and if you're an unskilled laborer, you don't have much of a choice but to work for one of those big companies if you want to support your family.

The logic of people who say what you've said is that there is a diversity of available jobs in any given community and that workers have the ability to just go choose where they'd like to go. But even if they do, it's often trading one kind of evil for another, and so it's often in their interest to stay in their initial bad situation because at least then you're holding on to whatever vacation or seniority or whatever you've accrued. But that's just a pittance. Even IF you manage to swing from one shit job with health insurance to another with health insurance, many employers require that you've been on staff for six months before they'll offer coverage, so, again, if you have a family it's a hard decision to go without that for half a year. Around here if you can't work in a hospital or university but need to support a family, you have no choice but to go work for Amazon, Wal-Mart, DIRECTV, or at some shitty retailer at the mall. None of these are career track positions, and none treat their employees particularly well.

And "it's his money" deliberately ignores so much about how that money is gotten. Exploiting tax loopholes while technically following the letter of the law (which is designed to filter as much money as possible upward toward people like Bezos) is such a shit excuse. It's cancerous opportunism, and just because it's technically legal doesn't mean it's right, and people are right to be incensed when faced with this kind of information.
 

mercenar1e

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Dec 18, 2017
639
Amazons stock would take such a hit if the founder came out and announced hes giving his personal wealth and will unionize his warehouse workers. I guess you can argue that he should be taxed at a higher rate but the Democrats and the Republicans do not want that at all.
 

rambis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,790
You give them other things to do, you focus their drive and passion beyond simply making their bank account even bigger simply for the fact of "well I can so I will". I mean you could functionally tax the top-1000 people in the 1% 85-95% of their earnings every year and they wouldn't even notice. But that money would make a huge difference in funding.
Most rich people I know are excessively prudent about even tiny amounts of money. I've had to argue with and get threatened by a millionaire who didn't want to pay a mileage fee to come to his house. It was like 10 or so dollars.


I find it difficult to conceive such wealth being owned by one person still.
Well he doesn't actually have that amount of money and theoretically he could lose it all today.
 

Jecht

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,650
In the case where it's legal to hoard the gold someone always will. Blaming Bezos is naive.

And people are naive for thinking they're vote is worth more than the Amazon lobby cash. Guess we are all a little naive here.

he does as required by law.

good for him, definitely a figure I look up to.

also lol at the hate in here for the rich, so salty

It's not salt. It's anger.
 

brownmagic

Member
Oct 25, 2017
505
I'm not sure why so many of you people direct your anger at Bezos or "capitalism" (lol) rather than your city, state, and federal governments. Maybe spend less time bitching at the rich and more time campaigning for representatives that stand for better labor laws?
 

Eros

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,657
He could at least help his employees. Or hire more of them so that they're not so pressed for time that they can't even take a fucking piss.
 
Oct 26, 2017
876
The rights to my King Arthur Origins series could be available for such a sum, if Mr. Bezos was looking to spend a little moolah on another property for his streaming service. :-)
 
Jan 29, 2018
9,387
He could at least help his employees. Or hire more of them so that they're not so pressed for time that they can't even take a fucking piss.

He already hires more than he needs so he can get local tax breaks for creating X amount of jobs, which has the added benefit of not needing them to work enough hours for benefits.
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
Its his money, he can do whatever he wants. stop being so salty. People shouldn't work fo amazon if they have issue with wage or working conditions.

Instead of complaining about Bezos, people should take it up to government to get rid of tax avoidance loopholes. He is just smart at what he does. Not commiting any crime.
Lmao
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
I'm not sure why so many of you people direct your anger at Bezos or "capitalism" (lol) rather than your city, state, and federal governments. Maybe spend less time bitching at the rich and more time campaigning for representatives that stand for better labor laws?
Stop complaining, you can only do one thing at a time!

You guys are hilarious.
 

Branu

Banned
Feb 7, 2018
1,029
He's a disgusting human being with no moral compass. Can't see myself ever spending a dime on Amazon, so I'm not contributing to his wealth.
 

Burt

Fight Sephiroth or end video games
Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,138
yo there no avatar billionaire defense brigade
 

Deleted member 36578

Dec 21, 2017
26,561
he does as required by law.

good for him, definitely a figure I look up to.

also lol at the hate in here for the rich, so salty
Are you joking? Sarcastic? I honestly can't tell. If you're serious I guess we're lucky laws exist to prevent slave labor from happening due to people with your mindset.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Remember guys, morality doesn't matter, empathy doesn't matter only the law.

Interesting that the law is so far slanted towards the pieces of shit of this world though.
 

CerealKi11a

Chicken Chaser
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May 3, 2018
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Bezos having a good idea 20 years ago doesn't mean he should reap all the benefits at the expense of the people actually making his idea a reality.

This is something I struggle with. How do you define the sum total benefits one can receive from an idea they've had? Especially one where they have continually reinvested in its growth and success. On one hand, you can say it was his idea, so anything it generates belongs to him. On the other hand, you can say that he no longer works to receive that money and doesn't deserve it. What's the cutoff? Where's the line?
 

8byte

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt-account
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
9,880
Kansas
Can you imagine being able to spend millions of dollars a day feeding, housing, and educating impoverished children just because you can?

No?

Neither can Jeff Bezos.
 

Branu

Banned
Feb 7, 2018
1,029
I say this in every Amazon thread, but I really need to dump my Amazon Visa card soon.

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Rune Walsh

Too many boners
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,019
For a drop in the bucket he could wipe all of my debts. What do you even do with that kind of money?
 

Raguel

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
2,275
Love the assholes in this thread with the fuck you i got mine attitude. Get rich don't need to help others. This is why the world is so fucked up. Bunch of selfish twats
 

Min

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Oct 25, 2017
4,068
pay your fucking workers

Correct me if I'm wrong, but part of the issue of Amazon's wealth is that it's mostly held in the value of their stocks. And this is the issue with this economy, it's no longer beneficial to raise wages or to even be fair to consumers because your actual customers are your share holders, and as soon as share holders catch wind of their profit being cut into because of raises, Amazon's stocks will plummet.

I'm not trying to defend the practice of not paying workers appropriately; I'm just attempting to explain my understanding of the greed going on in the private sector.
 

Zyrokai

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Nov 1, 2017
4,244
Columbus, Ohio
It just hit me that his is enough to give to the entire population of Ohio over two times. Almost 12 million people in the state. H could give each of us over $2 million in two days and wouldn't even feel like anything touched him.

Just wow.
 
Nov 30, 2017
809
So Jeff Bezos saw fit to take a bunch of poor people, stick them in a hot warehouse, force them to walk 15 miles a day, handle up to 1000 items of various weight, a day.

I know there's gotta be a german word for being the architect of your own demise by building the opposing army for them.
 

Skelepuzzle

Member
Apr 17, 2018
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Do you honestly believe the people on this forum do anything more than bitch and moan?

I mean, there's actual proof on the site that some people do shit. There's more complainers of course, but that's just true of American society in general. Hopefully we all chip in a bit more cause shit won't get better unless that happens.
 

higemaru

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Nov 30, 2017
4,098
I hope when bezos is brought to the guillotine for gross exploitation of his workers that he explodes into coins like he's a Scott Pilgrim character.
 

Visanideth

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Oct 31, 2017
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$28 million a day could help the entire world. He could give all his lower level employee raises. But nah. Let's horde it.


In an industrial economy that would be true, but in our finance driven economy, the moment you start sharing that money gets devalued. Money isn't associated with goods anymore, it's an emanation of status, and status is by definition unsharable.