Can Spider-man or Last of Us Part 2 dethrone God of War commercially?

Deleted member 14377 · Aug 1, 2018

Spider Man
Fuckin
Spider Man

And TLOU2 has a great following behind it due to Naughty Dog and it being a sequel(I know)

GoW did great and not to knock it, but the other two will do way better

Doskoi Panda · Aug 1, 2018

The Argus said:
Spiderman? No. It will sell well in September, but I doubt it will have serious daddy long legs. I'm expecting a short campaign, and the swinging mechanic already seems like it's just a few cool backflip animations that we've know seen 100 times. The latest gameplay footage I just saw didn't make the combat look like anything special. It's Arkham.

Last of Us? I think we will see some major downgrades. Will that affect sales? Probably not to much. But it's also just the second entry and the first game figures were propped up by double dippers like me starving for a PS4 game, hell I got mine super cheap trading in my PS3 copy.

GOW is a masterpiece. I literally just beat it tonight after buying it on sale during Father's Day. If they make it a $40 game during the holiday it will do huge #s for a 6month old game.

only way I'd take your appraisal of the game's combat seriously is if you were a fiend for Joker's Trials because basic Arkham combat this is not

Memento · Aug 1, 2018

Decado said:
TLOU2, perhaps. Spiderman? I can't see why. Has any Spiderman game come close to the sales of GoW?

No.

But we are talking about a Sony banked AAA Spiderman now with more hype than all the Spiderman games of the last 2 decades combined.

Still... God of War is showing the strongest legs for a Sony game since TLOU. I have my doubts Spiderman can have the kind of legs GOW is having (on top of having PlayStation biggest launch ever).

Toriko · Aug 1, 2018

Falconbox said:
No exclusive has ever sold that much except for Kinect Sports IIRC because it was a pack-in game. Not any Mario game. Not Halo in its hayday. People are really being overly bullish about TLOU here.

TLOU did 17 million for a new IP. People expecting growth from that number is not surprising. Although I agree 20 is going to be difficult.

Troll · Aug 1, 2018

How long has it been since insomniac had a hit? I'm looking over their history of releases and they've been popping out games to very underwhelming sales figures. Critical reception isn't much better either....

Wedzi · Aug 1, 2018

Solid said:
You'd think tlou were a stronger brand than Spider Man with these responses

It's more of the Last of US is just a stronger gaming brand and something that will resonate well with PS4 consumers more than anything.

If Sony drops a $200 Spider-Man PS4 bundle this holiday that'll take the cake but last year I think Sony opted for a vanilla 1tb PS4 as the front runner for Black Friday so we'll see.

jstevenson · Aug 1, 2018

Troll said:
How long has it been since insomniac had a hit? I'm looking over their history of releases and they've been popping out games to very underwhelming sales figures. Critical reception isn't much better either....

Ratchet & Clank, 2016

Loakum · Aug 1, 2018

Some of ya'll are grossly underestimating just how HOT Marvel is right now. Spider-Man is gonna blow out God of War's excellent sales figures. The Last of Us 2 will do the same.

Wedzi · Aug 1, 2018

Wedzi said:
It's more of the Last of US is just a stronger gaming brand and something that will resonate well with PS4 consumers more than anything.

If Sony drops a $200 Spider-Man PS4 bundle this holiday that'll take the cake but last year I think Sony opted for a vanilla 1tb PS4 as the front runner for Black Friday so we'll see.

The latest Ratchet and Clank broke sales records for the series I believe.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ratchet-and-clank-ps4-breaks-franchise-sales-recor/1100-6439357/

xolsec · Aug 1, 2018

A lot of faith behind spider man, I hope people won't be too much disappointed.

Cross · Aug 1, 2018

Toriko said:
Its not. Batman is the most popular super hero in the world. I believe there was one for 2017 as well. Need to look for it.

http://intelligence.slice.com/blog/...atman-tops-online-superhero-merchandise-sales

Wait a sec, how is Ultron above Wonder Woman?

Memento · Aug 1, 2018

Troll said:
How long has it been since insomniac had a hit? I'm looking over their history of releases and they've been popping out games to very underwhelming sales figures. Critical reception isn't much better either....

Literally their last game?

They announced last month that Ratchet and Clank 2016 was Insomniac's most sucessful game ever.

Toriko · Aug 1, 2018

Troll said:
How long has it been since insomniac had a hit? I'm looking over their history of releases and they've been popping out games to very underwhelming sales figures. Critical reception isn't much better either....

In what world is 80 plus reviewed games on a consistent basis underwhelming? I mean Insomniac's last release Ratchet did great numbers and is critically acclaimed as well.

jviggy43 · Aug 1, 2018

Spiderman can because it has a wider appeal than any of the other two games and doesn't come with a hard M rating.

Wedzi · Aug 1, 2018

Cross said:
Wait a sec, how is Ultron above Wonder Woman?

Troll · Aug 1, 2018

Memento said:
Literally their last game?

They announced last month that Ratchet and Clank 2016 was Insomniac's most sucessful game ever.

I get that but really in the context of this thread is where I'm going with it. a successful insomniac game isn't the same as a successful naughty dog game. lets put this into perspective here

Ascenion · Aug 1, 2018

More than the other 2, Spider-Man's success depends on that metacritic score. I really see it being somewhere between an 83-88. The 94 elevated God of War beyond expectations and TLOU 2 is a lock for 90+. TLOU 2 is also a highly anticipated sequel. I'd give TLOU 2 the crown it'll probably sell 15m+ lifetime.

Zaki2407 · Aug 1, 2018

It depends on the review scores imho. if both got many 9s and some 10s here and there, then there,s a possibility.
Like it or not, there are people who buy games based on review score.

Chamber · Aug 1, 2018

The M rated argument seems odd to me. The best selling game of the year, every year is M rated Call of Duty.

Cross said:
Wait a sec, how is Ultron above Wonder Woman?

The numbers are from 2015.
Age of Ultron came out in 2015.

Loakum said:
Some of ya'll are grossly underestimating just how HOT Marvel is right now. Spider-Man is gonna blow out God of War's excellent sales figures. The Last of Us 2 will do the same.

Strangely enough, the game being underestimated here is the one that ALREADY has a 94 metacritic and is breaking Sony sales records. If I have to bet the over/under on a 94 meta and 5 million sold in a month, I'm going under on both just to be reasonable.

Falconbox · Aug 1, 2018

Toriko said:
TLOU did 17 million for a new IP. People expecting growth from that number is not surprising. Although I agree 20 is going to be difficult.

That's across both PS3 and TLOU Remastered on PS4 though. A bit unfair to count re-releases like that, since I'm sure lots of people double-dipped.

Shouldn't be an issue though with TLOU2 releasing at the end of this gen though, assuming there's backward compatibility.

litebrite · Aug 1, 2018

Yes as long as both review well and are perceived as being very good to great, then they both have great chances outselling GOW.

Memento · Aug 1, 2018

Troll said:
I get that but really in the context of this thread is where I'm going with it. a successful insomniac game isn't the same as a successful naughty dog game. lets put this into perspective here

Ok...

But now they are working on one of the biggest IPs in the world.

Apathy · Aug 1, 2018

Both will surpass it. I really am starting to think Spiderman might be a commercial success like no other ps game. It'll have the side push from infinity war having been released like 3 weeks earlier, it's looking like the most"Spiderman" Spiderman game and, scores not being less than 8, it really will sell.

Not to say it will surpass it, mostly cause even I don't think it will, but days gone has a good possibility of doing horizon or better levels of sales. Don't underestimate the mainstream love affair with a good zombie story and bikers

Falconbox · Aug 1, 2018

Troll said:
I get that but really in the context of this thread is where I'm going with it. a successful insomniac game isn't the same as a successful naughty dog game. lets put this into perspective here

They just need one mega-hit to change everyones' mind.

Would anyone have believed a "successful Guerrilla game" could be selling just as well as Uncharted 4 before Horizon?

Memento · Aug 1, 2018

Apathy said:
Both will surpass it. I really am starting to think Spiderman might be a commercial success like no other ps game. It'll have the side push from infinity war having been released like 3 weeks earlier, it's looking like the most"Spiderman" Spiderman game and, scores not being less than 8, it really will sell.

Not to say it will surpass it, mostly cause even I don't think it will, but days gone has a good possibility of doing horizon or better levels of sales. Don't underestimate the mainstream love affair with a good zombie story and bikers

Horizon ZD vs Days Gone vs Ghost of Tsushima

Horizon did 7.6 million in 1 year. 10 million LTD could very well happens. Could DG and GOT reach those numbers? Both are gathering a lot of attention from the general audience so it is definitely possible imo. Days Gone seems to be really big with the mainstream. And GOT was one of the most popular games at E3, for my surprise.

Viceratops · Aug 1, 2018

Chamber said:
The M rated argument seems odd to me. The best selling game of the year, every year is M rated Call of Duty.

This is also my opinion. The M rating won't hurt TLOU in any notable way.

TLOU PT. II will be the best seller of those 3. I want God of War to sell better because it's not someone else's IP but I don't think it'll outsell Spider-Man in the end. I'm happy that Insomniac is probably going to get the hit they deserve after delivering so many great games.

Deleted member 11018 · Aug 1, 2018

I hope Spider-man will do well, but i don't give a damn about that game. At work, nobody has any interest in it (my department has about 200 people, 3/4 men 24-40), superheroes are "has been" over here in videogames.
God of War and TLOU have a much bigger appeal and impact for working latin adults demographics.
I wish the game well commercially, for the sake of the team and their future endeavours, but i'll vote TLOU2.

NickatNite · Aug 1, 2018

spideys gonna win!

TreeMePls · Aug 1, 2018

TLoU 2 is going to be a monster. Spiderman is gonna do good too

Apathy · Aug 1, 2018

Memento said:
Horizon ZD vs Days Gone vs Ghost of Tsushima

Horizon did 7.6 million in 1 year. 10 million LTD could very well happens. Could DG and GOT reach those numbers? Both are gathering a lot of attention from the general audience so it is definitely possible imo. Days Gone seems to be really big with the mainstream. And GOT was one of the most popular games at E3, for my surprise.

I have my doubts about GoT. Although I like the kurozawa influence, seems a bit too slow to draw people. I feel it'll definitely do better than bloodborne but not reach 6m in a year. I could be wrong and maybe I am for sucker punch, but it had its with cut out for it. Day gone on the other hand, oh boy, that's going to probably not be a critical darling (like 8.5's) but man will that sell. Hell I can't wait to get in a bike, ride around and just murder some fucking zombies. If state of decay 2 can do well even with game pass, an open world game with huge zombie packs and looks as good as DG does, that'll print money (well as long as the game is stable).

Loakum · Aug 1, 2018

Chamber said:
The M rated argument seems odd to me. The best selling game of the year, every year is M rated Call of Duty.

The numbers are from 2015.
Age of Ultron came out in 2015.

Strangely enough, the game being underestimated here is the one that ALREADY has a 94 metacritic and is breaking Sony sales records. If I have to bet the over/under on a 94 meta and 5 million sold in a month, I'm going under on both just to be reasonable.

Spider-Man may sale 7 million in it's first month of release. The hype and thirst is real.

RyoonZ · Aug 1, 2018

TLOU II is gonna clear 10 million easy

WieDerrickWie · Aug 1, 2018

Chamber said:
That graph is 5 years old and gets quoted here almost as often as Miyamoto's quote about delayed games.

As of April 2016, Batman was apparently on top in terms of online merchandise.

http://intelligence.slice.com/blog/...atman-tops-online-superhero-merchandise-sales

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icyflamez96 · Aug 1, 2018

Spider Man is SPIDER MAN. Im surprised there is even a debate here!

Ok I just wanted to get that out of the way, that was my initial reaction to this question. I respect other viewpoints and I could be wrong, but I feel like this being an amazing looking high profile SM game will attract a ton of people, most importantly, the more casual audience.

Landawng · Aug 1, 2018

I can't wait for Spiderman

TLOU 2 will decimate all

B.O.O.M. · Aug 1, 2018

Not sure about Spiderman but TLOU2? Oh Hell Yes. That game is gonna be Hype incarnate

shark97 · Aug 1, 2018

TLOU 2 should

Loveless · Aug 1, 2018

Man this thread makes my brain hurt.

Troll said:
How long has it been since insomniac had a hit? I'm looking over their history of releases and they've been popping out games to very underwhelming sales figures. Critical reception isn't much better either....

You say you just went over their history and then go on say that? It's obvious you didn't try very hard when searching, critically or sales wise.

Angie · Aug 1, 2018

I believe TLoU 2 will.

Not sure about Spider-Man.

Megatron · Aug 1, 2018

Isn't the best selling playstation game probably one of the grand theft autos?

SK4TE · Aug 1, 2018

Probably not, GoW had a window to itself for a few months.

Troll · Aug 1, 2018

Falconbox said:
They just need one mega-hit to change everyones' mind.

Would anyone have believed a "successful Guerrilla game" could be selling just as well as Uncharted 4 before Horizon?

That's a great point. I can get behind that

Megatron · Aug 1, 2018

I don't think Spider-Man will top God of War, because we have had tons of Spider-Man games. They do ok, but not Amazing (pun intended). Same for insomniac. Plus it's coming out amid serious competition.

Last of us 2 I think could do it if it comes out next year, but after that it will lose sales to the ps5 and the inevitable ps5 version.

Alethiometer · Aug 1, 2018

Spidey.

Dougieflesh · Aug 1, 2018

I believe the highest selling is gonna be The Last of Us 2. That multiplayer will be a huge selling point if they can expand on it.

gordofredito · Aug 1, 2018

I'd be surprised if it isn't Spiderman. I am actually not as big of a fan of superhero films/franchises, but Spiderman is just massive. I am seeing some GTA levels of hype from my non gaming friends on facebook and twitter, I will repeat this til I die but I think we are all underestimating how big this game will be. If it reviews as well as GOW, it's gonna be colossal

AlexxKidd · Aug 1, 2018

Youre off your rocker if you dont think TLoU2 will dethrone GoW. SpiderMan however remains to be seen, its a bit of an unknown quantity at this point and its gonna depend on how good the game is, reviews, etc. So far the buzz is incredible, and if the actual game delivers on the promise of what we've been seeing then I believe it has a strong chance because the hype train is is overflowing with paasengers.

DieH@rd · Aug 1, 2018

Many people here reference 17M sales of TLOU1 [ps3+ps4 sales], but the OP's poll is limmited to "end of this gen". If TLOU2 launches late, it will maybe not have a chance to collect enough sales to challenge GoW and Spidey [if many people elect to purchase it on PS5].

The poll should simply stick to "best sales of all time", thus encompasing the eventual PS5 ports/remasters/"ps5 boost mode"/etc that all these three games will most surely get. GoW already supports 1080p60, on PS5 we will surely get 4K60 and potentially other facelift features.

ElephantShell · Aug 1, 2018

I think it will be The Last of Us II selling the most, Spidey second, God of War 3rd.

Donthizz · Aug 1, 2018

Spidey is going to sell really well.maybe touch 10million. but tlous2 is going to do insane numbers.

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