Can Spider-man or Last of Us Part 2 dethrone God of War commercially?

People are so sure that Spidey will outsell GoW huh? have no doubt that TLOU2 will outsell it tho. After all TLOU1 sold like 18m units.

TLOU2 will come so close to PS5 launch and it will be the only one to get an early remaster for it to boost the sales big time.

I think Spider-man has potential, especially considering it has broader appeal. It is Spider-man after-all.

Spider-Man is going to kill both. The real close race is between TLOU2 and God of War.

Spider Man definitely has a chance with its appeal to younger as well older audience too. TLOU 2 would be quite violent..so my guess is its going to sell at-least lesser than Spider Man.

really surprised at gow's low votes

We don't even know if Spider-Man is a good game, let alone a masterpiece like the other choices. Let's hold off?

Father Kratos said:

Spider Man definitely has a chance with its appeal to younger as well older audience too. TLOU 2 would be quite violent..so my guess is its going to sell at-least lesser than Spider Man.

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It being violent don't mean much .
Some of the best selling games are violent .

FTF said:

lol ok now that is crazy talk.

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XD just a joke

gundamkyoukai said:

It being violent don't mean much .
Some of the best selling games are violent .

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And kids are buying those games?

Would be a massive win for Sony if SM did... unless the thing bombs crtically (don't see it happening) it should sell very well

Father Kratos said:

Spider Man definitely has a chance with its appeal to younger as well older audience too. TLOU 2 would be quite violent..so my guess is its going to sell at-least lesser than Spider Man.

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Uncharted did half of TLOU in spite of being less violent and more vibrant.

Spider-Man will sell several million less than TLOU 2.

People sleeping hard on Spider-Man. Can't wait for it to shock everyone in about a month.

Father Kratos said:

And kids are buying those games?

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Yes or there parents .
You really don't think COD , GTA etc etc get all those sales from adults only ?

Falconbox said:

Have we gotten any GOW figures since they announced it passed 5 million?

Games are heavily front-loaded and almost no exclusive sells 10+ million nowadays on a single console. I don't even know if Uncharted 4 has done that (sold 8.7 million in 2016, but no announcement of it ever passing 10 million).

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We haven't gotten numbers, we rarely do, but it did go up 3 spots to #4 in the UK last week. There's been no indication of it having poor legs.

Lmao they both will.

KrigareN- said:

Uncharted did half of TLOU in spite of being less violent and more vibrant.

Spider-Man will sell several million less than TLOU 2.

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My bad, wasnt aware TLOU sold 18 million copies on PS4.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insert...old-an-unbelievable-amount-of-copies-in-2016/

I will be surprised if either of those games outsell GOW.

Not because they'll be worse than GOW, but because GOW, being this masterful reboot of a huge franchise, has and advantage over those two titles in terms of making a big impression. I could be wrong, however.

I am surprised to learn Spider-man not only has more sales than all the other superheroes, but also more than Batman by a large margin.
Today I learned.

More kids will be getting Spider-Man than God of War for Christmas, and adults love it to. It has a great shot if it's a well reviewed game.

WieDerrickWie said:

I am surprised to learn Spider-man not only has more sales than all the other superheroes, but also more than Batman by a large margin.
Today I learned.

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He's had a longer string of good games, I think. Like, the PS1 stuff all the way to the PS3 was really consistent for Spidey.

Maybe I am oversimplifying things too much but Spiderman seems like it will be the best selling out of those three based on its very broad appeal.

I think a better question is which will be the better game as they are all very different.

Spiderman? No. It will sell well in September, but I doubt it will have serious daddy long legs. I'm expecting a short campaign, and the swinging mechanic already seems like it's just a few cool backflip animations that we've know seen 100 times. The latest gameplay footage I just saw didn't make the combat look like anything special. It's Arkham.

Last of Us? I think we will see some major downgrades. Will that affect sales? Probably not to much. But it's also just the second entry and the first game figures were propped up by double dippers like me starving for a PS4 game, hell I got mine super cheap trading in my PS3 copy.

GOW is a masterpiece. I literally just beat it tonight after buying it on sale during Father's Day. If they make it a $40 game during the holiday it will do huge #s for a 6month old game.

Robin said:

Interesting! I'm not sure how you'd measure all around character popularity so I'm not really certain what kind of data there is to suggest Spider-Man is a more popular character than something like Batman. But for the sake of an argument, didn't Dark Knight Rises gross more than Spider-Man Homecoming? Also a quick googling indicates that Tec Comics is outselling Amazing Spider-Man currently, so IDK! What's your case?

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Did you miss that graph posted a page back? Probably the best overall metric to help determine that kind of thing.

LossAversion said:

I think some people may be seriously underestimating the commercial titan that is Spider-Man. I wouldn't be surprised if Spider-Man becomes Sony's fastest selling exclusive of all time. I'd love to see where the merchandise numbers are at these days but at one point Spider-Man was more profitable than The Avengers, Batman, AND Superman COMBINED.

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And that's pre-MCU Spider-Man.

I absolutely believe TLOU2 will

Spider-man has a great chance as well but I think will depend on reviews being in the 85+ range. I still have some concerns about it and am not sure whether I'll get it.

WieDerrickWie said:

I am surprised to learn Spider-man not only has more sales than all the other superheroes, but also more than Batman by a large margin.
Today I learned.

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That graph is 5 years old and gets quoted here almost as often as Miyamoto's quote about delayed games.

As of April 2016, Batman was apparently on top in terms of online merchandise.

http://intelligence.slice.com/blog/...atman-tops-online-superhero-merchandise-sales

The anticipation for Last of Us 2 is on par with Grand Theft Auto, Elderscrolls etc., will probably be the biggest exclusive this generation.

Let just stop and think for a moment, all these games are going to sell upwards of 10 million units. That's freakin' huge lol. We have already seen the effect of GOW in Sony's quarterly report. Spider-Man and TLOU 2 will have have the same effect if not bigger. Sony must be pretty damn happy.

Xx 720 said:

The anticipation for Last of Us 2 is on par with Grand Theft Auto, Elderscrolls etc., will probably be the biggest exclusive this generation.

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Not sure I'd say it's up with there with GTA. GTAV will sell 100 million when all is said and done.

Though maybe you could make the argument that within the gaming community they're close.... though I still think you'd have to reach pretty hard.

Era is so out of touch I'm convinced GOW will be the winner this gen.

Philly Cheesesteak said:

You honestly think the world's most popular superhero is going to sell less than God of War? LOL

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Yes.

What's with the cocky attitude? I feel like it'll be extremely close, but I'm predicting God of War to slightly come out on top. Stop acting like this won't be a close race.

The Argus said:

Spiderman? No. It will sell well in September, but I doubt it will have serious daddy long legs. I'm expecting a short campaign, and the swinging mechanic already seems like it's just a few cool backflip animations that we've know seen 100 times. The latest gameplay footage I just saw didn't make the combat look like anything special. It's Arkham.

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this post will age nicely when the preview embargo lifts

I predict that all three games will make Sony a lot of money

jstevenson said:

this post will age nicely when the preview embargo lifts

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Day 1 looking forward to it, game looks great

Toriko said:

No. Batman is more popular

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Ah! Hadn't seen that. I stand corrected.

I just don't get everyone's confidence in Spider-Man doing so well commercially.

I'm in the minority though and think GOW will be the best selling of the bunch.

I KILL PXLS said:

Did you miss that graph posted a page back? Probably the best overall metric to help determine that kind of thing.



And that's pre-MCU Spider-Man.

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I actually did miss it, not sure how tbh. Thanks for mentioning it. It really does seem like Spider-Man has huge appeal, which is why I found it interesting Homecoming didn't gross as well as Dark Knight Rises. It's not like Homecomings numbers are even close to being considered small potatoes, just an interesting observation if the licensed product sales are really THAT much higher. I wonder if it's just toys and if so what it is that makes Spidey kill in that sector? Especially considering how long the movies floundered, and it seems like it's been awhile since there was a landmark animated series or anything of the sort for Spidey.

I think they both will, yeah.

Spider-Man's metrics continue to be ridiculously strong, even looking at it from a cursory view. I'm sure jstevenson has data that can validate the high levels of interest that Spidey is garnering.

The easy answer would be which ever one gets bundled in.

I think the Last of Us 2 has the best shot, since it'll be released at the apex of the PS4's life cycle. Right before PS5 hits and where they'll be close to 100 million PS4 consoles out in the wild.

TLOU2, perhaps. Spiderman? I can't see why. Has any Spiderman game come close to the sales of GoW?

The Last of Us 2 will obliterate both. It has a great chance to be Sony's first 20 million seller imo.

Spiderman will do gangbusters too, but I am not sure it can top God of War. Either way, both Spidey and GOW will be 10+ million sellers. I think they will be very close. Like, 14 million for GOW and 13 million for Spidey, or vice versa.

The sequels will be very interesting too. God of War 2 and Spiderman 2 have potential to be TLOU2 big.

Spiderman probably will just because it's a super hero thing. TLOU 2 should too

You'd think tlou were a stronger brand than Spider Man with these responses

I'd be honestly surprised if spider-man could reach the same numbers of GOW, though tbh I don't really follow or care that much about the franchise so I might be underestimating it. Insomniac are amazing though so I'm assuming the game will be great and well received by critics (>=85mc), which will certainly help besides the obvious popularity.

TLOU2 will most likely be at least as huge as GOW. I can see it being a even bigger hit though I don't think the difference will be that significant.

KrigareN- said:

Uncharted did half of TLOU in spite of being less violent and more vibrant.

Spider-Man will sell several million less than TLOU 2.

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Which Uncharted game are you talking about?

jstevenson said:

this post will age nicely when the preview embargo lifts

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Lol

Memento said:

The Last of Us 2 will obliterate both. It has a great chance to be Sony's first 20 million seller imo.

Spiderman will do gangbusters too, but I am not sure it can top God of War. Either way, both Spidey and GOW will be 10+ million sellers. I think they will be very close. Like, 14 million for GOW and 13 million for Spidey, or vice versa.

The sequels will be very interesting too. God of War 2 and Spiderman 2 have potential to be TLOU2 big.

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No exclusive has ever sold that much except for Kinect Sports IIRC because it was a pack-in game. Not any Mario game. Not Halo in its hayday. People are really being overly bullish about TLOU here.