Nintendo Ad: Looking for hardcore games to play this summer?

Boiled Goose · Jul 31, 2018

blacktout said:
I wish we had more information about how well M rated games are selling on the Switch. It's one of the few remaining open questions about the system.

We know first party games and indies are breaking records and it seems like most of the E/E10+/T third party games we know about (Octopath, Mario + Rabbids, Crash, etc.) are doing quite well, but I'm seeing a lot of hedging and equivocation in discussions of Doom, Wolfenstein, Bayonetta, et al.

Do we at least know that Skyrim is a million seller? (I've seen it mentioned on threads before, but I've never seen clear confirmation.)

I guess I'm just nervous because I really, really want GTA V/Online and Doom Eternal to make it to the Switch, so it would be great if mature games were at least selling well enough to warrant to continued investment from publishers.

Skyrim popped up on NPD top 10 switch games recently. It's doing fine. Doom and it are still basically full price. Support is not guaranteed with sales. RE4 did super well on wii and capcom followed up with two rail shooters.

Switch is not the Wii at all, but best not stress about things you cant control. Switch is selling well and software is selling like crazy. When it makes sense, companies will want a piece of the pie.

Kandinsky said:
So Xenoblade 2 doesnt get promotion on their family/first party line up, but doesnt get here either, this fucking company man.

Games like xenoblade and zelda and octopath get promoted in their big epic adventures category.

TI92 said:
Glad they stopped pushing the cardboard product as well. Push what actually sells

Lol. Labo over a million already and a third kit on the way. It's like you're trying to will a different reality into existence.

Kthulhu · Jul 31, 2018

Apathy said:
But then they aren't the "hardcore". I know people rebuy games i know not everyone buys all games. What I'm saying is that those people can be advertised to more effectively than an ad about hardcore games to "hardcore" gamers with what they are showing

It's an ad sent to everyone on their mailing list, not a targeted ad.

Luchashaq · Jul 31, 2018

I really don't understand the appeal of paying full price for at this point old games.

If wolf 2 came out on the switch day and date sure I would have played it there, but this is entirely different.

Skittzo · Jul 31, 2018

Luchashaq said:
I really don't understand the appeal of paying full price for at this point old games.

If wolf 2 came out on the switch day and date sure I would have played it there, but this is entirely different.

Some people have about 100x more time available to play a game if it's on a portable. I've bought all of the games on this list (and Dark Souls when it comes out) and I've owned all but Wolf2 before on other platforms. But I never have time to play them anymore, except on a portable like the Switch.

Deleted member 3010 · Jul 31, 2018

skittzo0413 said:
Some people have about 100x more time available to play a game if it's on a portable. I've bought all of the games on this list (and Dark Souls when it comes out) and I've owned all but Wolf2 before on other platforms. But I never have time to play them anymore, except on a portable like the Switch.

My exact situation, which will be even more effective once I have a kid.

Except for Wolfie 2, because the game isn't entirely on the cart.

Luchashaq · Jul 31, 2018

skittzo0413 said:
Some people have about 100x more time available to play a game if it's on a portable. I've bought all of the games on this list (and Dark Souls when it comes out) and I've owned all but Wolf2 before on other platforms. But I never have time to play them anymore, except on a portable like the Switch.

I get that because I'm in that camp, but if I didn't play a 2011 or 2014 game by now there's no way in hell I'd pay full price for it just because it's a new platform.

Zaro · Jul 31, 2018

They could have put Titan Quest in the adds too.

Spine Crawler · Jul 31, 2018

tiebreaker said:
No Labo?

too hard too core

Skittzo · Jul 31, 2018

Seik said:
My exact situation, which will be even more effective once I have a kid.

Except for Wolfie 2, because the game isn't entirely on the cart.

It's a godsend for when you have a kid. For multiple reasons. One, we don't want our 6 month old constantly staring at a TV so I wouldn't be able to play games on a TV if she's anywhere nearby. Two, when it's my shift at night to take care of her if she wakes up or fusses it's great to be able to sit in bed with a Switch game that I can suspend at a moments notice and then pick right up 10 minutes later at the exact same spot.

Luchashaq said:
I get that because I'm in that camp, but if I didn't play a 2011 or 2014 game by now there's no way in hell I'd pay full price for it just because it's a new platform.

Err, I'm not saying I'm paying full price just because it's a new platform, I'm paying full price because I'll actually be able to get a lot more playtime out of games on this platform specifically because it's portable. It's worth more to me because of that.

Servbot24 · Jul 31, 2018

Real Renaissance Man said:
Why? I'm referencing Skyrim, not the Switch.

The definition of hardcore is "the most active, committed, or doctrinaire members of a group or movement". Do you think that applies to the majority of people who've played Skyrim, let alone all?

I think that many of "the most active, committed, or doctrinaire members of a group or movement" do indeed enjoy Skyrim very much

unfortunately

pleaseinsertdisctwo · Jul 31, 2018

I mean I hate to be that guy but these are literally all ports of pretty non-new games (except Wolf I guess)

Deleted member 41931 · Jul 31, 2018

Kthulhu said:
Yes?

Do you have some data to support this? By virtue of it being the 12th best selling game of all time, it should include a higher quantity of "casual" players compared to most other titles.

Kthulhu · Jul 31, 2018

Real Renaissance Man said:
Do you have some data to support this? By virtue of it being the 12th best selling game of all time, it should include a higher quantity of "casual" players compared to most other titles.

Hardcore =/= niche. Plenty of people who like niche games also like mainstream titles.

Deleted member 24540 · Jul 31, 2018

Reminds me of the E3 2009 segment with Reggie mentioning hardcore games for daddy, including stuff like Dead Space Extraction.

"3rd party titles with a little harder edge"

Wispmetas · Jul 31, 2018

Shadow dropping dark souls on the next direct confirmed?

maximumzero · Jul 31, 2018

Luchashaq said:
I really don't understand the appeal of paying full price for at this point old games.

If wolf 2 came out on the switch day and date sure I would have played it there, but this is entirely different.

I've been itching to play Doom since it's release in 2016 and with the Switch release it's finally on a platform I own, but $60 for a game that's regularly $20 on other platforms isn't something I'm gonna jive with.

passepied joe · Jul 31, 2018

Hardcore sub-30 FPS goodness!

Luchashaq · Jul 31, 2018

maximumzero said:
I've been itching to play Doom since it's release in 2016 and with the Switch release it's finally on a platform I own, but $60 for a game that's regularly $20 on other platforms isn't something I'm gonna jive with.

I guess I just don't understand that there is really more than a few people who would want to play those old games that don't already have a pc or ps4 or xb1.

beetlebum · Jul 31, 2018

Creamium said:
This really hits home how incredibly dumb 'hardcore games' sounds

As dumb as 'hardcore' sounds, I think 'mature' is way worse.

At least when the so-called 'mature' games are ones with fire-spewing dragons, a witch who uses her hair as a weapon while half-naked, or a gate to hell which was found on Mars.

Skittzo · Jul 31, 2018

Wispmetas said:
Shadow dropping dark souls on the next direct confirmed?

It's hard to shadow drop a retail game.

AcademicSaucer · Jul 31, 2018

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NateDrake · Jul 31, 2018

Cypher said:
Hardcore sub-30 FPS goodness!

Bayonetta 2 proves your statement wrong.

Paradoxal Utopia · Jul 31, 2018

TI92 said:
It's odd, this is the only place on the internet I see people even talking about it. It's a DOA product. Glad to see nintendo has accepted it and is now pushing the more mainstream games which makes sense, largest chunk of switch owners are the 18-35 range I believe. Push games like these on the go, push Pokemon and smash for the holidays. Push games like mc and fortnite for the kids.

Nintendo finally gets it, traditional games are what people actually buy :p

So because Nintendo sent out a single marketing email advertising these 4 games within a theme, they suddenly "accept" the death of Labo? What? What a weird assumption and conclusion. I mean, isn't there a new Labo kit launching soon? How does that jive with your thesis? Also, do you have a SHRED of evidence that Labo was "DOA", or is it some "anecdotal" BS about how you and noone you know has it? It has already sold 1.4 million in a couple months.

BriGuy · Jul 31, 2018

Also oldcore. Great if you somehow haven't played them, but three of those games are from last generation.

maximumzero · Jul 31, 2018

Luchashaq said:
I guess I just don't understand that there is really more than a few people who would want to play those old games that don't already have a pc or ps4 or xb1.

No no, don't misunderstand me, I'm agreeing with you. I want to play Doom but I ain't paying $60 for the ability to do so when other platform owners get to do the same for a third of the cost or less.

Merton · Jul 31, 2018

Dark Souls now just says 2018 and not Summer 2018- delayed again possibly..... SIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Skittzo · Jul 31, 2018

BriGuy said:
Also oldcore. Great if you somehow haven't played them, but three of those games are from last generation.

Technically they're all current gen, considering it's Dark Souls Remastered (just released this May) and Skyrim Special Edition (released Holiday 2016).

And Bayo 2 was a Wii U game, so I guess it depends on what you consider last generation.

gameongreggy said:
Dark Souls now just says 2018 and not Summer 2018- delayed again possibly..... SIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

The subject of the email says "Looking for hardcore games to play this summer?"

I don't think they'd say you can play Dark Souls this summer if it was going to be delayed again.

UltraMagnus · Jul 31, 2018

Jo-TM said:
Reminds me of the E3 2009 segment with Reggie mentioning hardcore games for daddy, including stuff like Dead Space Extraction.

"3rd party titles with a little harder edge"

Some people may not like the naming nomenclature, but Nintendo certainly uses terms like "casual", "core", and "hardcore" themselves and its relatively clear what they mean. Koizumi was doing it recently.

justiceiro · Jul 31, 2018

Seik said:
Hahaha, I actually tried, but no, it gives plenty of games. :P

https://www.nintendo.com/en_CA/game...V2&crmid=EEDEDFBA-1333-4AB3-87E6-6E22D10BBB03

Well, indeed, altough i would be hard pressed to call stardew valley, fallout shelter and the longest five minutes hardcore.

DrArchon · Jul 31, 2018

Nothing says hardcore like games you already played on other systems at least a year ago.

And fucking give us a date already for DS Remastered!

passepied joe · Jul 31, 2018

NateDrake said:
Bayonetta 2 proves your statement wrong.

Yeah that's true lol

cowbanana · Jul 31, 2018

Five old games, one of which hasn't released yet - and has no release date. Bravo?

I don't mean to troll, that simply isn't impressive. I'd buy portable Doom on my Switch for novelty's sake, but €64 on the eShop is utterly ridiculous when I paid a little more than half that for the superior PC version on release day.

Using the word "hardcore" in an ad is also *cringe*.

PKrockin · Jul 31, 2018

QuiteSomething · Jul 31, 2018

"Look we are not a console for kids just buy our overpriced H A R D C O R E late ports pls"

UltraMagnus · Jul 31, 2018

cowbanana said:
Five old games, one of which hasn't released yet - and has no release date. Bravo?

I don't mean to troll, that simply isn't impressive. I'd buy portable Doom on my Switch for novelty's sake, but €64 on the eShop is utterly ridiculous when I paid a little more than half that for the superior PC version on release day.

Using the word "hardcore" in an ad is also *cringe*.

A game doesn't become "unfun" just because it's a bit older. A lot of PS4/XB1 gamers even don't play every single game in the first pass of release or at all. Until you can put your PS4/XB1 in your back pack and play it anywhere, Nintendo is fully in the right to highlight these types of games, especially given the Switch's adult dominated demographics.

inspectah · Jul 31, 2018

This ad is not hardcore enough for the real gamers™ in this thread it seems.

Sub Boss · Jul 31, 2018

lol poor Dark Souls

DanceToTheRadio · Jul 31, 2018

It's a relief to see Dark Souls there, at least they acknowledge its existence despite the lack of information for months now.

Deleted member 3010 · Jul 31, 2018

justiceiro said:
Well, indeed, altough i would be hard pressed to call stardew valley, fallout shelter and the longest five minutes hardcore.

Hah, agreed with you on this one! Sounds like they're stretching the term 'hardcore' to put more on the list. :lol

justiceiro · Jul 31, 2018

Erg said:
OP cut off the weirdest part of the ad:

Why is the gaming forecast just random weather? Is this the real weather? I'm so confused.

For a moment i tought that would be a tease that by tomorrow would be getting news about a one more hardcore game by tomorrow, but since that page have way more than 27 games, i think i must be imagining things. Probably jsuta way to say "gaming season is getting hotter!".

The ad is actually admirable, they even found put a hardcore sun on the forecast.

Deleted member 41931 · Jul 31, 2018

Servbot24 said:
I think that many of "the most active, committed, or doctrinaire members of a group or movement" do indeed enjoy Skyrim very much

unfortunately

Kthulhu said:
Hardcore =/= niche. Plenty of people who like niche games also like mainstream titles.

Lets approach this from a differbt angle then. What in your minds makes Skyrim "Hardcore"?

Skittzo · Jul 31, 2018

DanceToTheRadio said:
It's a relief to see Dark Souls there, at least they acknowledge its existence despite the lack of information for months now.

They've been demoing it at all of their press events, even as recent as this past weekend. There's nothing to suggest they haven't been acknowledging it, even if the lack of release info is extremely weird and frustrating.

Deleted member 15497 · Jul 31, 2018

"Hardcore"

Servbot24 · Jul 31, 2018

Real Renaissance Man said:
Lets approach this from a differbt angle then. What in your minds makes Skyrim "Hardcore"?

It appeals to the core enthusiast gaming audience

PKrockin · Jul 31, 2018

Real Renaissance Man said:
Lets approach this from a differbt angle then. What in your minds makes Skyrim "Hardcore"?

"Hardcore" gamers bought and loved it.

Slam Tilt · Jul 31, 2018

Real Renaissance Man said:
Lets approach this from a differbt angle then. What in your minds makes Skyrim "Hardcore"?

"It don't have no cutesy graphics an' I get to chop up people an' make 'em spew blood an' shit!"

ozfunghi · Jul 31, 2018

Chindogg said:
Just got this in my email:

It's incredibly weird to see Nintendo pushing this collection of games. Also, Dark Souls still confirmed for summer?

This is funny, because this is exactly what i said they should've done with the WiiU (ZombiU, Deus Ex, Mass Effect 3, Assassins Creed 3/BF, Darksiders, COD, SC Blacklist...). Convince the casual dad that there is something for him as well as his 9 year old son. Yet they kept hammering on SM3DW, Cpt Toad, Donkey Kong... in adds and commercials, on a system that had to wait untill it was burried before a new Zelda came out.

Deleted member 36708 · Jul 31, 2018

Kthulhu said:
Why would they end a profitable relationship?

People rebuy games all the time. Otherwise companies wouldn't be so keen on porting them and making remasters.

Plus there are plenty of people who have never played those games.

Same way activision did with cod games that were on the Wii U. I don't trust not one third party when it comes to Nintendo.

Kthulhu · Jul 31, 2018

Tron1 said:
Same way activision did with cod games that were on the Wii U. I don't trust not one third party when it comes to Nintendo.

Probably cuz the Wii U was a failure and newer CoD games were probably really hard to port to it and the Switch.

Lindsay · Jul 31, 2018

I like how the discussions shifted to trying ta figure out what hardcore means, its got my curiousity! Cause personally those 5 games? I'm never touching 'em. Not my thing! An yet I'm surely faaaaaaaaar from being a casual.

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