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Bitanator

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,045
Anybody buy Beat Rush? How are you enjoying it? Looks fun enough and I can get it for only a couple dollars
 

alundra311

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,231
Interested in your impressions. That's one that's been on radar for a while.

If you're looking for Rogue Aces impressions, I remember Epilexia giving his impressions a couple pages back which I'll just quote right here.

'Rogue Aces' is the real shit, I haven't been as obsessed with a roguelite since the vanilla release of 'The Binding of Isaac Rebirth'.

I have spent 20 hours this week, and I have reached the mission 51 out of 100 in the campaign.

It has the most satisfactory shooting feeling that I have ever find in the genre.

Once you learn how to play well, it's amazing how graceful and satisfactory feels the combat, like a dance spectacle with planes.

I'm not a person of using the video recording feature, and this is the first game that have made me to be recording and watching repetitions of the most intense combat parts.

Plus the aerial steal technique elevates the shooting genre to a new peak of awesomeness.

You can jump of your fucking plane. Landing and stealing any enemy plane. In an open world environment, with a sandbox mission structure and a real time day-night cycle with billions of animated sprites, explosions and whatnot.

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It's completely different to 'Luftrausers' in every aspect, controls, physics, mission structure.

Both games come from a same tradition, 'Time Pilot' by Konami and all the lineup of games expanding this sub-genre of arcade games with acrobatic planes, such as 'Sky Kid' from Namco or the incoming 'Sky Skipper' by Nintendo.

The game from Vlambeer is a score chaser arcade game, intended for small runs of 3 minutes.

While 'Rogue Aces' has a campaign with 100 missions integrated in a sandbox and open world structure, that can take close to an hour to complete.

In 'Luftrausers', you are fighting against the controls, trying to gain control over the chaos.

While in 'Rogue Aces', once you learn how to play, and while it has a physics engine that resembles momentum-based arcade games such as 'Super Monkey Ball', you will reach a point in which you will have a PERFECT control of your plane, and in which you can adjust every single pixel for each maneuver in crazy ways.

I love both games, but they are only similar in the screenshots. Completely different approaches to game design.

'Luftrausers' is a contemporary arcade masterpiece.

And 'Rogue Aces' is one of the most ambitious and complex 2D games in recent memory, infused with an arcade soul, but expanding the limits of this arcade tradition to create something that resembles a 2D version of 'Ace Combat' set in an infinite open world.
 

ParanoidRED

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
2,931
All this Hand of Fate 2 praise is making me interested...but i have way too many games to play currently...wishlisted, it will be mine at the first sign of a sale :)
 

Genetrik

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,733
Rogue Aces looks like a spiritual successor to Wings of Fury which was amazing back in the day. But unfortunately 2 things give me a bad impression:
- the visuals look unfortunately poor
- the automatic landing. It should be manual to add additional tension like in WoF
 

1upsuper

Member
Jan 30, 2018
5,489
Rogue Aces looks like a spiritual successor to Wings of Fury which was amazing back in the day. But unfortunately 2 things give me a bad impression:
- the visuals look unfortunately poor
- the automatic landing. It should be manual to add additional tension like in WoF
You can (and should) turn off auto landing. It definitely adds some tension and requires finesse.
 

jariw

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,283
Rogue Aces is 50% off, but I didn't know that until I viewed the entire list of games on sale. Bit on it!

For those of you who get Rogue Aces, make sure to check out the 2 different stick control schemes. I changed mine to "retro" or whatever it was called, and it made a huge difference for me.

So what are the must own Indies now?

Looking at the whole history of the Switch or just the last few months?

Also, some type of games and/or genres don't appeal to everyone. A game like Hollow Knight will appeal strongly to some kind of players, but not to others. A game like Steamworld Dig 2, Yoku's Island Express or Stardew Valley will appeal to a more general/average audience.

Anyhow, looking back on my 100+ Switch indies catalogue, and I have to narrow it down, these are probably my "must own" games. The games are excellent games with good Switch versions. In alphabetical order:
* Celeste
* Golf Story
* Hollow Knight
* Overcooked! Special Edition (local multiplayer)
* Shovel Knight
* Stardew Valley
* Steamworld Dig 2
* Thimbleweed Park
* Yoku's Island Express
* West of Loathing

I've also enjoyed these a lot. In alphabetical order:
* The Adventure Pals
* Astro Duel Deluxe (local multiplayer)
* Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth +
* Blossom Tales
* Bomb Chicken
* Cat Quest
* Cave Story +
* Dandara
* Don't Die Mr. Robot!
* The Escapist 2
* Fast RMX
* Framed Collection
* Goetia
* Gorogoa
* Heroki
* Ironcast
* Ittle Dew 2+
* Lode Runner Legacy
* Lovers in a dangerous Spacetime (local multiplayer)
* Lumines
* Miles & Kilo
* Neurovoider (played as local mulplayer)
* Night in the Woods
* Old Man's Journey
* Party Golf (local multiplayer)
* Picross S
* Pixeljunk Monsters 2
* Rogue Aces
* Runbow
* Steamworld Heist (the only reason I don't put this one in the "must-have list" is the lack of HD rumble)
* Splasher
* Subsurface Circular
* Sumer (local multiplayer)
* Super One More Jump
* Thumper
* Tumbleseed
* Tumblestone

I'm aware that there are loads of more games in the same quality range as the list above. There are just too little time to play them all.

Any of the 3 pinball games (Pinball FX3, The Pinball Arcade, Zaccaria Pinball) are also great fun with the "right" tables.
 

Lucifonz

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,132
United Kingdom
Any idea when Titan Quest will release in the EU? Release date still says 31st despite that being... Today?

I've never really waited in the day for a non-preload title on the store before so I'm not sure what time the store updates.
 
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tolkir

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Oct 25, 2017
4,252
Game of the Day

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LICHTSPEER is an action arcade lightspear-throwing simulator based in an Ancient Germanic Future. Exclusive Nintendo Switch™ co-op mode for 2 players included!

In a land filled with Penguin Vikings, Wurst Zombies, and Hipster Ice Giants, survival is an art. Fortunately, an ancient champion with an elegant weapon has been summoned to please the Gods and restore balance to the universe.

Grab your lightspear, become a Germonaut, and traverse lands straight out of Germanic myths. Survive with style and expand your powers to fight for the glory and amusement of the almighty Gods.

AIM. SHOOT. KILL. DIE. THE LICHTGODS DEMAND IT. This is LICHTSPEER.

A ONE-OF-A-KIND MIX
Experience an über fantastisch mix of arcade action and lightspear-throwing simulation.

THUNDEROUS TEAMWORK
Fight for the glory, hand-in-hand with your four-legged friend in a Nintendo Switch™ exclusive co-op mode.

WUNDER BOSS BATTLES
Battle a diverse legion of gargantuan wunder bosses – exploit their weaknesses and smash them into pieces!

AN ANCIENT GERMANIC FUTURE IS HERE
Discover the lands of an ancient Germanic future and fight a horde of Biedermeier beasts from another dimension – Wurst Zombies, Evil Spacedwarfs, Skater Walruses, you name it.

SHOW OF YOUR LICHTMAISTER SKILLS
Decapitate your enemies with headshots, execute special attacks, and generate zuper massive combos to improve your score and impress your friends!

BOMBASTISCH SOUNDTRACK
Rave to a bombastisch space soundtrack by Marcin Sonnenberg, from electro space marches to the vibrating sounds of tecnocumbia.

RAGE QUIT AND NEW GAME+ MODES
Want more? Rise to the challenge and see if you've got what it takes to beat the cruel, nerve‑racking Rage Quit and New Game+ modes.

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Price: $5.99/€5.99/£5.39 (On sale until 08/09) - NA web - EU web - Trailer

Last 6 GOTD
07/30 - Super Chariot
07/29 - Bulb Boy
07/28 - Framed Collection
07/27 - Graceful Explosion Machine
07/26 - Outlast: Bundle of Terror
07/25 - Snipperclips: Cut It Out, Together!
 

Protome

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,682
Did they ever add online to Hammerwatch on Switch? I really want that game but cannot justify buying it without online multiplayer.
 

ElGoldur

Member
Oct 27, 2017
68
Norway
Played some more of The Adventure Pals, and I'm really surprised how greatly I'm enjoying this game. I just finished world 3 (currently at 59%), and the story, writing and inventiveness by the creators is really good! If possible, play it in English. It's one of those games that I enjoy more the more I play of it. The only bad thing I can think of right now is that they use B as the select button instead of A.

It is such a charming and fun game. I loved it. Highly recommended :)
 

Epilexia

Member
Jan 27, 2018
2,675
if you're ready for crappy extremely rubber-bandy AI races then go for it. that's always been a contentious point for the game, despite patches attempting to address it.

And this is the whole definition for the entire racing arcade genre, and the same can be applied to any classic arcade racing game in the 90s.

'Fast RXM' is looking to a tradition of Namco and Sega arcade racing games.

Games such as the entries in the 'Ridge Racer' series, in which in the most advanced cups, you need to make perfect runs in each track to achieve the first position.

They were games intended to be played memorizing each track for hours until doing perfect runs.

In opposition to a modern concept of racing games, that are not arcade games.

In which the public is playing racing games for the sole purpose of having the feeling that they are driving, and there are other drivers. And that's fine.

But the arcade racing genre is a whole different story to this.

And we live in the best timeline possible if a developer had the guts of creating in the current decade a pure arcade racing game trying to avoid any modern casual trend like perks or buying upgrades, staying loyal to a 90s' arcade tradition and looking to the greatest classics of Namco and Sega.
 

TheMoon

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Oct 25, 2017
18,778
Video Games
And this is the whole definition for the entire racing arcade genre, and the same can be applied to any classic arcade racing game in the 90s.

'Fast RXM' is looking to a tradition of Namco and Sega arcade racing games.

Games such as the entries in the 'Ridge Racer' series, in which in the most advanced cups, you need to make perfect runs in each track to achieve the first position.

They were games intended to be played memorizing each track for hours until doing perfect runs.

In opposition to a modern concept of racing games, that are not arcade games.

In which the public is playing racing games for the sole purpose of having the feeling that they are driving, and there are other drivers. And that's fine.

But the arcade racing genre is a whole different story to this.

And we live in the best timeline possible if a developer had the guts of creating in the current decade a pure arcade racing game trying to avoid any modern casual trend like perks or buying upgrades, staying loyal to an arcade tradition and looking to the greatest classics of Namco and Sega.

Nah, this game's BS AI has been taken apart so many times. It's apparently less bad than how it started out in the original NEO version but the execution is just plain bad. If you have to dig down to near perfect racing to reliably win at all there's something wrong. Can't really smooth this over with "homage to classics" talk XD
 

steveovig

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,171
Apparently, Picross E9 is coming to the JP 3DS on August 8th, with other regions to follow. Lots, and lots of Picross lately but I'm not complaining!
 

Epilexia

Member
Jan 27, 2018
2,675
Nah, this game's BS AI has been taken apart so many times. It's apparently less bad than how it started out in the original NEO version but the execution is just plain bad. If you have to dig down to near perfect racing to reliably win at all there's something wrong. Can't really smooth this over with "homage to classics" talk XD

Sure, there has been a trend in video game forums of throwing shit in 'Fast RMX' because it's trying to be an old-school idea of design.

And being an enthusiast of the arcade racing genre, having played all the major classics in the 90s and early 2000s I can say that 'Fast RMX' is as great as the greatest classics in the genre.

And that the same criticism in this current trend of throwing shit in the game, with the same valid arguments, can be said of any of the greatest arcade racing game classics, starting with any home version of 'Ridge Racer'.

So then, I will say that every user can try to use his brain, to create his own opinion by ignoring the current trends, using his own experience and knowledge of the medium.

And my experience and my opinion, after having completed most of the entries of 'Ridge Racer' in the most advanced cups, is that I have only find this same masterful design and challenging difficulty in 'Fast RMX', from all the contemporary racing games.

It's as great as the greatest racings games by Namco.

And it's fine to dislike this design idea in games such as 'Ridge Racer Revolution' or 'Fast RMX'.

But the use of hyperbolic negative words, which by the way, it's other of the current trends in video game forums, to use a hyperbolic negative language ("crappy", "terrible", "awful") to describe any aspect in a game that we dislike, it's simply not fair with the intentions of the developers.
 
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Slam Tilt

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Jan 16, 2018
5,585
I'm with Epilexia here; cheap rubberbanding AI is a hallmark of the authentic arcade racer experience. Anyone who's played Ridge Racer will know exactly what that's about, where the game is always threatening you right until you cross the finish line.

That said, I can also see where the detractors are coming from, because the arcade AI is not a perfect fit for the insane speeds that Fast RMX plays at. It would be fine if the courses were easy to read and not littered with obstacles, but the later tracks really demand that you spend the time to learn them properly if you want to get first while fighting off the AI. I can understand why some people would feel that it's "cheap" as a result.

That said redux, I still recommend Fast RMX, because it's a great Switch showcase and a fun game in its own right — provides you know what you're getting into up front. Like Dark Souls, it's not for everyone.
 

Epilexia

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Jan 27, 2018
2,675
That said, I can also see where the detractors are coming from, because the arcade AI is not a perfect fit for the insane speeds that Fast RMX plays at. It would be fine if the courses were easy to read and not littered with obstacles, but the later tracks really demand that you spend the time to learn them properly if you want to get first while fighting off the AI. I can understand why some people would feel that it's "cheap" as a result.

This is also my major complaint with 'Fast RMX', and it's not a problem of the game or its design, but it's a problem of the portable format.

Simply, 'Fast RXM' is a game that I can't recommend for people playing in portable format.

Playing in the Switch small screen, it's very hard to anticipate some obstacles, because they will appear in the distance as tiny objects.

But this completely changes playing the game in a big TV.
 

hibikase

User requested ban
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
6,820
The controls in Owlboy are bad. Who the fuck puts jumping on the A button (on a SNES layout), and why can't I remap it.
 

OrakioRob

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,492
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Only if you're really starving for a budget F-Zero/Wipeout clone.

It's not a bad game but it's nothing amazing either.

I'm my opinion (not saying you're wrong, it's just my opinion), Fast feels more like an arcade racer, as@Epilexia explained above. I understand why people compare it to F-Zero and Wipeout based on the graphics, but when I finally played it felt more like Daytona USA to me. And I love it ^_^
 

feelingkettle

Member
Nov 5, 2017
106
yeah where is this game? wanted to get this ever since the surprisingly high rating at destructoid
It's not a great game, sadly. Had it on 3ds. Was worth one playthrough and there's some goofy characters, but it's not something I would recommend at full price. Might want to check the other reviews, since Destructoid's is currently the highest.