Genuinely I would like to see a game that has had a better live model than this?
The unveiling of the game was in May 2016 so when I misread it I just assumed it had come from something between then and release, its cool though.No problem, since the game released last October, I didn't consider that you were thinking that the ITW happened in August 2016. My apologies.
i can understand it from Sony's perspective as the game has sold poorly, and wont be selling much more given the terrible reviews it got. They're not a charity
What i don't understand is the cavalcade of people whose first instinct was to defend Sony for going back on their word. Not surprising behaviour but pathetic and embarrassing nonetheless
I looked at the top review (a 100) and they went in after launch and updated it to an 85 due to online issues with no DLC/microtransaction/paid whatever mentions in it. I also looked at the GameSpot review, which also doesn't mention anything like that. I'm not doubting you and I'm not going to read 80+ reviews to figure out who did, but that's a dumb thing to review a game on, as far as citing "there's no DLC right now or maybe in the future" since things can always change. The notion that they made this change ten months after launch to trick reviewers seems unlikely. The way Forza's done it within weeks of launch seems like an obvious example of that, but this seems more like they changed their minds since then.It was one of the pros that many reviewers touted as being a good thing about the game.
Oh look. Another GT Sport thread filled with people who have little to no interestin the game.
Meanwhile 5.5m+ gamers who are enjoying it are blown away by the post launch support. The best I have experienced in gaming.
8 months since launch I and many others fully expected PD to have already transitioned to pay DLC. That's what you expect with most games. Particularly a driving game were it's so easy to monetise car and track packs.
So spare me the contrived outrage. PD are an example to other devs how we should do away with season passes and such. Keep your community united and generate extra revenue by means that have zero impact on the games competitiveness or economy.
Oh look. Another GT Sport thread filled with people who have little to no interestin the game.
Meanwhile 5.5m+ gamers who are enjoying it are blown away by the post launch support. The best I have experienced in gaming.
8 months since launch I and many others fully expected PD to have already transitioned to pay DLC. That's what you expect with most games. Particularly a driving game were it's so easy to monetise car and track packs.
So spare me the contrived outrage. PD are an example to other devs how we should do away with season passes and such. Keep your community united and generate extra revenue by means that have zero impact on the games competitiveness or economy.
Paid DLC is fine if the game you launch has a ton of content anyway. GT:S did not. It would have died if people knew they were going to have to pay full whack for a a game with such scant content that was not going to get free tracks etc in the future.
Agreed nothing wrong with this, if the games economy had been retooled to have people look at MT as a faster means of progression versus playing the game and introduced loot boxes, then I would have a problem.I don't mind the implementation they chose, it works for people who can't invest unlimited time.
I think it's funny to assume that 100% of users are blown away when actually a lot of users turned away from the game.That's cool but what do you think about PD saying definitively there would be no microtransactions and then adding them months later? You know, what the thread is about. If you don't care then that's cool but it's a bit weird to come in and go WELL ACTUALLY THERE ARE 5.5 MILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE BLOWN AWAY BY THE SUPPORT THE BEST I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN GAMING etc. That has nothing to do with the OP and doesn't add to the discussion. There's no need to justify to anyone that some people like the game. That's understood.
Again, the thread isn't an analysis of how good or evil the microtransactions are. They are totally fine. It's just a discussion that a major first party studio said that their game definitively wouldn't have microtransactions and then they added them. That's a notable thing. Not an outrage, a discussion.
I think it's funny to assume that 100% of users are blown away when actually a lot of users turned away from the game.
They never even announced that the tracks and cars were going to be free before release, or even after the first DLC release. No one who bought the game was anticipating free DLC content.
The way it is implemented means it isn't hurting anyone, it's completely different to any loot box bullshit. Maybe they could have added due to player feedback, who knows.
Oh look. Another GT Sport thread filled with people who have little to no interestin the game.
Meanwhile 5.5m+ gamers who are enjoying it are blown away by the post launch support. The best I have experienced in gaming.
8 months since launch I and many others fully expected PD to have already transitioned to pay DLC. That's what you expect with most games. Particularly a driving game were it's so easy to monetise car and track packs.
So spare me the contrived outrage. PD are an example to other devs how we should do away with season passes and such. Keep your community united and generate extra revenue by means that have zero impact on the games competitiveness or economy.
A. GT Sport is on track to surpass GT6 sales by a good few million.i can understand it from Sony's perspective as the game has sold poorly, and wont be selling much more given the terrible reviews it got. They're not a charity
What i don't understand is the cavalcade of people whose first instinct was to defend Sony for going back on their word. Not surprising behaviour but pathetic and embarrassing nonetheless
I agree upto a point. But we are now well past the point where free DLC is expected. The game is fully featured and packed with cars, tracks, events and features not in previous GT's like the (car & suit) livery creators.Paid DLC is fine if the game you launch has a ton of content anyway. GT:S did not. It would have died if people knew they were going to have to pay full whack for a a game with such scant content that was not going to get free tracks etc in the future.
Am reposting this as I got the bottom of the page:
In all honesty GT Sport as a GAAS has been one of the most consumer friendly titles there has been, proper support with many updates, new tracks, new cars, online competitions with real world prestigious prizes and some really professional streaming of real world events.
I feel like it is fair to defend PD here, as I said above the MTX haven't changed the game, it is far easier to earn credits now than at launch, everything is still free and the support has been excellent.
Yes they said there would be no MTX that is absolutely different from what they are saying now but that was a year ago and plans do change.
I agree that we need to be careful in regards to consumer rights and we need to call out when consumers are being taken advantage of but some of the reactions to this are mind boggling to me.
Genuinely I would like to see a game that has had a better live model than this?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there planned to be paid dlc a year/year and a half after release? Micro transactions arent necessarily the same as dlc, but I was expecting something like this.
They shouldn't have made that statement if they weren't going to commit to it.
The only embarrassment is trying to spin their post launch support as a negative.
GT Sport really pisses me off, picked it up recently.
Laughable VR mode, few cars, weak ass soundtrack and it just feels like Prologue all over again, hell maybe even Prologue was better. The best thing is classy presentation, reminds me of NFS Porsche but that's not nearly enough.
I just shelved it for amazing Wipeout Omega.
Not only did they lie but MS just took lookboxes out of Forza, not a good time to go back on your word and add microtransactions to GT.
Damn that's ironic. Exactly what Forza 7 got shit on for supposedly doing, but never actually happened.
Yep. They fucked up. Saying something as definitive as no and then sneaking them in stirred up a shit storm. Of course it did!They should have said something along the lines "We aren't sure if we will add micro transactions eventually". But instead they said a plain "No", people make buying decisions based on this and breaking up on your words creates mistrust.
And this was after and in response to GT6 (which did have MTX).Interviews/video is in the OP. When asked if the game would have microtransactions, they said 'no'. No talk of timelines or anything.
I bought the game and am one of those players and I am not 'blown away' by the post launch support. Considering how little was in the game at launch I would expect nothing less.
What? Of course there is an effect on non MTX customers! This is a competitive online game! Now someone can just buy a better car with real money and that gives them an advantage over me who didn't but that car with real money. And this is an online focused game so it absolutely impacts everyone!Lol dude, Prologue? Are you trolling? With the Wipeout thing I fee like you are, its like saying you shelved it for Farm Simulator 2017
Season's Pass. You all seem to conveniently categorize Forza's mtx bundles as a completely different animal. Until PD starts charging for expansions, breaking a promise via paid unlocking of free content makes the comparisons to Forza's MTX seems laughable
I dont think most people are denying there's been a shift in what was promised, just that it has literally no effect on the game for non MTX customers and continues to provide free content regardless
What effect does this change have on you, or any other customer who bought GTSport under the premise of no MTX at this point in time? How has this affected the way you play the game or it rewards you? Because I am really having a hard time understanding the plight from those who feel lied to as anything other than being hurt by the PR words itself.They shouldn't have made that statement if they weren't going to commit to it.
Yeah, I too stopped playing fairly quickly near launch. I liked online mode a lot, just not enough to "live" in the game.
Well, it has made me decide to not buy the game, or if I do it'll be used, so I guess it affects Sony/Polyphony by losing a possible sale that they would have had.What effect does this change have on you, or any other customer who bought GTSport under the premise of no MTX at this point in time? How has this affected the way you play the game or it rewards you? Because I am really having a hard time understanding the plight from those who feel lied to as anything other than being hurt by the PR words itself
Well, it has made me decide to not buy the game, or if I do it'll be used, so I guess it affects Sony/Polyphony by losing a possible sale that they would have had.
The philosophy for GT Sport is totally different from Forza Motosport now. In GT Sport you have a trophy for acquiring 10 cars and that's it, in Forza you have achievements for acquiring 200 cars. GT is not about collecting hundreds of cars anymore. It's more the the tracks and how to drive in them. If they start to charge for tracks then I'll be more pissed, but the current implementation of DLC is not going to cause a revolt from the community. I suppose the uproar only came from people who only saw the headline and invested in little or no time in the game.
I, for one, am in utter outrage. I will be taking my copy back to the supermarket and getting the 9€ I paid for the game back.