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Despite saying that it wouldn't have any, GTSport introduces microtransactions in update [Read OP]
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Splatoon 2's updates are free and they have given us multiple weapons, maps and clothes.
But I wouldn't care if GTS had MT or not, I do care that they lied about it though.
The unveiling of the game was in May 2016 so when I misread it I just assumed it had come from something between then and release, its cool though.
Great first post, very very good effort. Really added to the discussion.
Oh look. Another GT Sport thread filled with people who have little to no interestin the game.
Meanwhile 5.5m+ gamers who are enjoying it are blown away by the post launch support. The best I have experienced in gaming.
8 months since launch I and many others fully expected PD to have already transitioned to pay DLC. That's what you expect with most games. Particularly a driving game were it's so easy to monetise car and track packs.
So spare me the contrived outrage. PD are an example to other devs how we should do away with season passes and such. Keep your community united and generate extra revenue by means that have zero impact on the games competitiveness or economy.
Meanwhile 5.5m+ gamers who are enjoying it are blown away by the post launch support. The best I have experienced in gaming.
8 months since launch I and many others fully expected PD to have already transitioned to pay DLC. That's what you expect with most games. Particularly a driving game were it's so easy to monetise car and track packs.
So spare me the contrived outrage. PD are an example to other devs how we should do away with season passes and such. Keep your community united and generate extra revenue by means that have zero impact on the games competitiveness or economy.
I looked at the top review (a 100) and they went in after launch and updated it to an 85 due to online issues with no DLC/microtransaction/paid whatever mentions in it. I also looked at the GameSpot review, which also doesn't mention anything like that. I'm not doubting you and I'm not going to read 80+ reviews to figure out who did, but that's a dumb thing to review a game on, as far as citing "there's no DLC right now or maybe in the future" since things can always change. The notion that they made this change ten months after launch to trick reviewers seems unlikely. The way Forza's done it within weeks of launch seems like an obvious example of that, but this seems more like they changed their minds since then.
GT Sport really pisses me off, picked it up recently.
Laughable VR mode, few cars, weak ass soundtrack and it just feels like Prologue all over again, hell maybe even Prologue was better. The best thing is classy presentation, reminds me of NFS Porsche but that's not nearly enough.
I just shelved it for amazing Wipeout Omega.
Laughable VR mode, few cars, weak ass soundtrack and it just feels like Prologue all over again, hell maybe even Prologue was better. The best thing is classy presentation, reminds me of NFS Porsche but that's not nearly enough.
I just shelved it for amazing Wipeout Omega.
Paid DLC is fine if the game you launch has a ton of content anyway. GT:S did not. It would have died if people knew they were going to have to pay full whack for a a game with such scant content that was not going to get free tracks etc in the future.
That's cool but what do you think about PD saying definitively there would be no microtransactions and then adding them months later? You know, what the thread is about. If you don't care then that's cool but it's a bit weird to come in and go WELL ACTUALLY THERE ARE 5.5 MILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE BLOWN AWAY BY THE SUPPORT THE BEST I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN GAMING etc. That has nothing to do with the OP and doesn't add to the discussion. There's no need to justify to anyone that some people like the game. That's understood.
They never even announced that the tracks and cars were going to be free before release, or even after the first DLC release. No one who bought the game was anticipating free DLC content.
Agreed nothing wrong with this, if the games economy had been retooled to have people look at MT as a faster means of progression versus playing the game and introduced loot boxes, then I would have a problem.
I think it's funny to assume that 100% of users are blown away when actually a lot of users turned away from the game.
The way it is implemented means it isn't hurting anyone, it's completely different to any loot box bullshit. Maybe they could have added due to player feedback, who knows.
I bought the game and am one of those players and I am not 'blown away' by the post launch support. Considering how little was in the game at launch I would expect nothing less.
Not only did they lie but MS just took lookboxes out of Forza, not a good time to go back on your word and add microtransactions to GT.
Sounds like an odd way of doing things.
But it seems a lot of people in here are over the moon with the way Polyphony have handled GT Sport, so I guess its the kind of roadmap people will be happy to see more of.
Agreed, there is nothing wrong with the microtransaction model that they've added. It's totally fair and takes nothing away from players who don't spend anything. But, again, that's nothing to do with the OP. OP didn't ever said that the microtransaction model 'hurts anyone'.
How many racing games come out on release as bare bones as GTS? Hey, I agree that the game is fantastic, but you are delusional to think that this game did not release in a bare bones state. The post launch support has been great, but did you really think they would not do this with how bare bones the game launched? Historically, it was the least content racing game in recent memory. But the point of the discussion and OP is them saying they would not have paid MT and then introducing paid MT. It is great the 5.5 all are blown away by the post launch support, I am sure you spoke to each 5.5 million to make such a statement. But I don't remember you calling me because my answer would of been, NO, I am not blown away. I think it is great, but it is the least I expected that after spending the cost for the game when it came out and it was a shell of a game.
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Damn that's ironic. Exactly what Forza 7 got shit on for supposedly doing, but never actually happened.
A. GT Sport is on track to surpass GT6 sales by a good few million.
B. They are adding 250,000 players per month.
C. Over 50% of GT's sales are after the first year.
D. The reviews were mixed. The sim and automotive communities praised it highly. Content was the biggest gripe of the rest.
E. PD didn't give many indications of post launch support. The 80+ cars, half a dozen new tracks, content and feature updates, far surpasses my expectations for free content.
F. I struggle to get annoyed about the introduction of microtransactions that have no impact on the games economy. Nor does it offer any advantage over regular play. It's literally a short-cut.
PD and Sony did plenty strange things launching GT Sport. But right now their free DLC plans are comprehensive, consumer friendly and an example to the industry. The only embarrassment is trying to spin their post launch support as a negative.
I agree upto a point. But we are now well past the point where free DLC is expected. The game is fully featured and packed with cars, tracks, events and features not in previous GT's like the (car & suit) livery creators.
I've put so many more hours into this title than any other. Only BF4 comes close and that's half my hours in GT Sport. I also fully expect support to continue well into 2019.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there planned to be paid dlc a year/year and a half after release? Micro transactions arent necessarily the same as dlc, but I was expecting something like this.
If there's a possibility that plan may change, then why give such a definite "no" in the first place?
Interviews/video is in the OP. When asked if the game would have microtransactions, they said 'no'. No talk of timelines or anything.
They shouldn't have made that statement if they weren't going to commit to it.
Who is doing that? Only jabs I've seen are directed at what was there at launch.
I think in the long run, companies behind these games need to be candid about how these model work, and be realistic about why it's sometimes handled that way. I have no issue with the basis of service games (even with real-money purchases as part of the equation), but when you have devs/publishers "talking out of both sides of their mouths" to vilify valid practices that they may end up needing, you have players that end up out of touch with how a business-model shift could play out.
It's not that *every* player will care, but you end up with this pent-up hostility to something totally reasonable on the business side that can backfire. Especially for a series shifting to a smaller focus like GT, I think it was setting up a land-mine for themselves to make something as broad as [not having microtransactions] be part of the pitch.
It's not that *every* player will care, but you end up with this pent-up hostility to something totally reasonable on the business side that can backfire. Especially for a series shifting to a smaller focus like GT, I think it was setting up a land-mine for themselves to make something as broad as [not having microtransactions] be part of the pitch.
Lol dude, Prologue? Are you trolling? With the Wipeout thing I fee like you are, its like saying you shelved it for Farm Simulator 2017
Season's Pass. You all seem to conveniently categorize Forza's mtx bundles as a completely different animal. Until PD starts charging for expansions, breaking a promise via paid unlocking of free content makes the comparisons to Forza's MTX seems laughable
I dont think most people are denying there's been a shift in what was promised, just that it has literally no effect on the game for non MTX customers and continues to provide free content regardless
Yep. They fucked up. Saying something as definitive as no and then sneaking them in stirred up a shit storm. Of course it did!
Even if Sony/Polyphony had come out before this update launched and said they were going to add them there wouldn't be as much blowback. But they didn't!! They just snuck them in there and hoped people didn't mind. Shitty way to do it.
But I agree with the OP. They are likely doing this because sales are not where they want them to be so trying to find another source of revenue from the current owners of the game.
Yeah, I too stopped playing fairly quickly near launch. I liked online mode a lot, just not enough to "live" in the game.
What? Of course there is an effect on non MTX customers! This is a competitive online game! Now someone can just buy a better car with real money and that gives them an advantage over me who didn't but that car with real money. And this is an online focused game so it absolutely impacts everyone!
What effect does this change have on you, or any other customer who bought GTSport under the premise of no MTX at this point in time? How has this affected the way you play the game or it rewards you? Because I am really having a hard time understanding the plight from those who feel lied to as anything other than being hurt by the PR words itself.
To say that MTX'ing your way to an expensive car means buying your way to 1st place better be backed by facts of how broken the expensive cars are relative to other vehicles. That would be a what if-ism
I think it's a fine racing game and it looks beautiful. I kinda love and really respect how hard they've gone in on trying to make online racing better. You can't argue with that. But it's laughable to suggest that literally everybody who has ever played the game is 'blown away by the post launch support - the best I have ever seen in gaming'. That's so over the top it's crazy. Whatever, it's a fairly transparent thread derail. It's literally nothing to do with the topic.
Well, it has made me decide to not buy the game, or if I do it'll be used, so I guess it affects Sony/Polyphony by losing a possible sale that they would have had.
As expected this thread turned into a shitfest...
Did they screw up by saying there would be no microtransactions and then after 8 months putting them in. Certainly.
Does it break the game or introduces pay to win tactics? No
Can you acquire the same cars playing normally? Yes
Of course, some people here blowing a gasket, who do not even own the game.
Did they screw up by saying there would be no microtransactions and then after 8 months putting them in. Certainly.
Does it break the game or introduces pay to win tactics? No
Can you acquire the same cars playing normally? Yes
Of course, some people here blowing a gasket, who do not even own the game.
The philosophy for GT Sport is totally different from Forza Motosport now. In GT Sport you have a trophy for acquiring 10 cars and that's it, in Forza you have achievements for acquiring 200 cars. GT is not about collecting hundreds of cars anymore. It's more the the tracks and how to drive in them. If they start to charge for tracks then I'll be more pissed, but the current implementation of DLC is not going to cause a revolt from the community. I suppose the uproar only came from people who only saw the headline and invested in little or no time in the game.
Why would you not buy it though if the game is still the same regardless? It's good for someone like me who works in a very busy HR job and have a very active 1 year old, I don't have the time to put hours upon hours into the game, so this gives me the option to pick up any car I want. I can still earn credits whilst playing and buy cars that way to.
The uproar exists because of what Kaz said, not because of the actual implementation.
I, for one, am in utter outrage. I will be taking my copy back to the supermarket and getting the 9€ I paid for the game back.
They won't be impressed unless you take down a magazine rack too.