Yeah let us celebrate the game that had loot boxes and even developed its ingame economy around them.Meanwhile Forza 7 just announced the removal of lootboxes. GT has really fallen as a franchise. Forza has overtaken it in pretty much every way by now.
Being 100% here, I think the reason that they started the Free updates was that the game they shipped did not have the content to justify the price of the game. Even after all the updates, I don't feel the price of admission versus the content (cars/tracks) is justified. Granted the game looks and plays great/fantastic no doubt, but I never seen a more bare bones game like this before and imho the reason for the free updates was that the team knew they shipped a game with little content.
This sounds like a GamerGate Jr. discussion.
"It's about holding them accountable! They lied! We need integrity and accuracy!" Thank god Yamauchi isn't a woman.
Pretty much. Fanboys bending over backwards to try and justify a shitty move by Polyphony.
Do you even play the game? Its been near a year so they have not "waited" for reviews plus actually playing the game you see how easy it is to get credits. In my near year of playing i would never have needed to spend a cent. However if the option is there who cares? As long as it doesn't affect how the credits currently are there is no problem
Yeah, not that there is ever good timing for this but it couldn't be worse to do this now.Meanwhile Forza 7 just announced the removal of lootboxes. GT has really fallen as a franchise. Forza has overtaken it in pretty much every way by now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did they ever say that GT Sport would never feature MTX?
There's a huge difference between making a statement before launch about the game, in its current state, and making a promise to the community about the games future. It seems that PD were doing the former when talking about the game having no MTX.
This tactic is so shamefull imo reviewers should lower their scores when this happens imo.Yeah they pretty much lied or waited for reviews to come in before launching this. Pretty disgusting.
GT Sport never had loot boxes, a bad practice to earn money, to begin with. And they're not adding them now. In fact what they are adding, to help pay for all the free updates they've been doing, is pretty unintrusive.Meanwhile Forza 7 just announced the removal of lootboxes. GT has really fallen as a franchise. Forza has overtaken it in pretty much every way by now.
There are games like Sea of Thieves or Assassins Creed that come out and they make clear - yeah, we are a GaaS game and at some point we will offer mtx. I think people simply expected the same kind of transparent behavior from PD.Correct me if I'm wrong, but did they ever say that GT Sport would never feature MTX?
There's a huge difference between making a statement before launch about the game, in its current state, and making a promise to the community about the games future. It seems that PD were doing the former when talking about the game having no MTX.
This sounds like a GamerGate Jr. discussion.
"It's about holding them accountable! They lied! We need integrity and accuracy!" Thank god Yamauchi isn't a woman.
I mean, what the hell is this thread even supposed to accomplish? Will Polyphony go to video game jail? The outrage is absolutely ridiculous. I mean genuinely sit back and look at it from the outside: People are literally mad because other people have the ability to buy something in a game, even if they personally don't want to. They're mad because "they said they wouldn't!"...but so what? Everything indicates that nothing else has changed, all content is still available for free (and presumably will continue to be free)...so why the outrage? Because they said "no" instead of "maybe"?
It just sounds so childish, it's genuinely hard to take any point of discussion here seriously when it's so irrational. They haven't locked off any past free content behind pay walls, they haven't introduced pay to win mechanics, and they haven't said that this is the end of free content. So literally all of the outrage is because "they lied" and gamers want "justice".
When you get angry when people say gamers are entitled children, you can look to behavior like this, when a small inconsequential development happens, and it balloons to hundreds of posts where gamers express their outrage at a "lie" over something that will literally never impact them.
Is this a parody post or something? Wow.This sounds like a GamerGate Jr. discussion.
"It's about holding them accountable! They lied! We need integrity and accuracy!" Thank god Yamauchi isn't a woman.
I mean, what the hell is this thread even supposed to accomplish? Will Polyphony go to video game jail? The outrage is absolutely ridiculous. I mean genuinely sit back and look at it from the outside: People are literally mad because other people have the ability to buy something in a game, even if they personally don't want to. They're mad because "they said they wouldn't!"...but so what? Everything indicates that nothing else has changed, all content is still available for free (and presumably will continue to be free)...so why the outrage? Because they said "no" instead of "maybe"?
It just sounds so childish, it's genuinely hard to take any point of discussion here seriously when it's so irrational. They haven't locked off any past free content behind pay walls, they haven't introduced pay to win mechanics, and they haven't said that this is the end of free content. So literally all of the outrage is because "they lied" and gamers want "justice".
When you get angry when people say gamers are entitled children, you can look to behavior like this, when a small inconsequential development happens, and it balloons to hundreds of posts where gamers express their outrage at a "lie" over something that will literally never impact them.
Which other racing game has constant free cars and tracks put out on an almost monthly bases?I mean, other games also do free updates without microtransaction...
Wake me up when they also remove season passes and give you those updates for free.Meanwhile Forza 7 just announced the removal of lootboxes. GT has really fallen as a franchise. Forza has overtaken it in pretty much every way by now.
Uhm the first thing that comes up googling Forza 7 is a 30 dollar car pack.
XC2 is like Splatoon 2, an expansion with other updates given for free. Not microtransaction nor DLC giving immediate access to content or similar.Doesn't both Forza and XC2 (love both games btw) have season passes instead though?
There are games like Sea of Thieves or Assassins Creed that come out and they make clear - yeah, we are a GaaS game and at some point we will offer mtx. I think people expected the same kind of behavior from PD.
Lower their scores on something that does nothing at all to the game some of you are insane.This tactic is so shamefull imo reviewers should lower their scores when this happens imo.
XC2 is like Splatoon 2, an expansion with other updates given for free. Not microtransaction nor DLC giving immediate access to content or similar
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did they ever say that GT Sport would never feature MTX?
There's a huge difference between making a statement before launch about the game, in its current state, and making a promise to the community about the games future. It seems that PD were doing the former when talking about the game having no MTX.
I can see EAs future excuses now for Anthem lootboxes. LolAgree, they could have been more transparent.
But they probably just wanted to keep their options open. It's perfectly possible that they simply didn't know at that point in time. All they knew is that there wouldn't be MTX for the forseeable future.
This tactic is so shamefull imo reviewers should lower their scores when this happens imo.
It's "interesting " that a select few posters would use this to try and undermine the info.Just in case anyone wasn't sure of the motivations behind this post.
Considering Gran Turismo 6 launched with more complete content than GTS and Polyphony were still providing free updates, cars, and tracks to that game for 2-3 years, I wouldn't really make this assumption.
The loophole from now on! We didn't lie, we changed our mind! This is just beautiful.I'm going to use this tactic from now on in my life! I don't lie, I just change my mind a lot.
Which other racing game has constant free cars and tracks put out on an almost monthly bases?
This tactic is so shamefull imo reviewers should lower their scores when this happens imo.
Why are some trying to discredit the OP when it's pretty much a fact that PD said one thing and did something else.
Agree, they could have been more transparent.
But they probably just wanted to keep their options open. It's perfectly possible that they simply didn't know at that point in time. All they knew is that there wouldn't be MTX for the forseeable future.
There are games like Sea of Thieves or Assassins Creed that come out and they make clear - yeah, we are a GaaS game and at some point we will offer mtx. I think people simply expected the same kind of transparent behavior from PD.
The loophole from now on! We didn't lie, we changed our mind! This is just beautiful.
Yeah rare did it right. Transparency is there.And yet there aren't any MTX in SoT yet. I was expecting them soon after launch.
They decided to push the microtransactions to the back burner while they worked on new content due to consumer complaints. Last we heard pets and cabin customizing should come back at some point.And yet there aren't any MTX in SoT yet. I was expecting them soon after launch.
A new track a month? Not in my version.Well, they have been supporting the game for free for almost a year now. People have gotten a new track a month and almost a dozen new cars for free no?
The "season pass" gives you one story expansion, 3 blades and related tiny missions.
Which other racing game has to add them because the competition offers more? It's not like the game launched with a lot of content.Which other racing game has constant free cars and tracks put out on an almost monthly bases?
Most racing games are filled to the brim with microtransactions and paid dlc on release.