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Despite saying that it wouldn't have any, GTSport introduces microtransactions in update [Read OP]

MouldyK

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chubigans said:
You can turn them off in the options menu.

There was no change to the in game economy. Tracks, cars and everything else continues to be free with monthly updates.

Nice try trying to set a narrative though.
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Forza had Tokens like this for years and people complained about them, even in 7 where they were never bought with Money, even though they were going to be in the Future before they canned it.

That "Narrative" though stuck for months after release though.
 
cmdrshepard

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While I appreciate that you can "turn off" the MT's and that there are limits to which cars you can buy based on value, the long and short of it is that no MT's were originally a selling point of this game over its competitor and funnily enough as it's main competitor removes MTX, Poly changes course and introduces MTX.

If it keeps the free updates coming so be it but let's not pretend that the developer has had to break one of its original selling points and promises.
 
Hawk269

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TaKeRx said:
What a crazy world we live where Forza 7 gets rid of them and GT adds them in lol.
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MS, Turn 10 and Forza 7 got roasted here when they had MT's, but what many ignored is that there was no way to use real world money for the MT/Loot Boxes in Forza 7. It never existed to allow you to use real world money via the game or the web-site. It was literally impossible to use real world money, but that did not stop people from tearing them apart. Here, there is a way to use real world money and for some "it's ok". double standards perhaps. For me it is not a big deal since you can turn it off and honestly MT's don't bug me that much because if I don't want to use them, I don't use them. But it is interesting that Turn 10 removes the non-real world money stuff and Poly adds in real world money MT's.
 
Gestault

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I feel like it might be helpful to clarify the difference between microtransactions (in the sense of paying for faster access to content already in the main game) and DLC (paying for content expansions). This MT implementation is totally fine (optional, and able to be hidden), but there's some rightful side-eye for this approach in a game already thinner than its predecessors on car content.

And it's obviously bad form to specify in the promotional phase how your game won't do something (criticizing the practice), then shifting over to do that exact thing. chubigans , I literally can't tell if you're making a joke or not with "Nice try trying to set a narrative though." I hope you are.
 
Rzarekta

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This is a silly attempt at causing a stir - especially considering the amazing support this game has been getting since launch. These new transactions don't impact the game at all for those who don't want to partake, and I welcome the addition because it will help fund additional support in the future. But yea, I get the overall point you're making, but it's still a poor attempt to create a new controversy.
 
Lelouch0612

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Lol at people trying to discredit the OP by saying he is pushing a narrative.

I mean, the opening post is literally articles, there is zero personal thoughts on whether it is a bad thing or not.
 
ckareset

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You guys are being overly defensive to a developer lying lol.

I'm sure it's not a big deal as they dont seem to break the game, but the developer went back on their word. We need to hold them accountable.
 
ckareset

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Rzarekta said:
This is a silly attempt at causing a stir - especially considering the amazing support this game has been getting since launch. These new transactions don't impact the game at all for those who don't want to partake, and I welcome the addition because it will help fund additional support in the future. But yea, I get the overall point you're making, but it's still a poor attempt to create a new controversy.
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lol, can yall stop with the motivations. OP posted facts and receipts.
 
nib95

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I thought the plan was always to introduce them after a year? Or paid future DLC anyway. At least that's what I remember reading over at GT Planet. I suppose expecting to get two years worth of free content may have been a bit too much of an ask. Oh well.
 

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I heard that if you close your eyes hard enough microtransactions cease to exist

If only EA knew this before Battlefront 2's reveal, they could have avoided the narrative set against them.
 
Loudninja

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nib95 said:
I thought the plan was always to introduce them after a year? At least that's what I remember reading over at GT Planet. I suppose expecting to get two years worth of free content may have been a bit too much of an ask. Oh well.
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Huh?all the stuff is still free nothing has change.
 
MouldyK

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Hawk269 said:
MS, Turn 10 and Forza 7 got roasted here when they had MT's, but what many ignored is that there was no way to use real world money for the MT/Loot Boxes in Forza 7. It never existed to allow you to use real world money via the game or the web-site. It was literally impossible to use real world money, but that did not stop people from tearing them apart. Here, there is a way to use real world money and for some "it's ok". double standards perhaps. For me it is not a big deal since you can turn it off and honestly MT's don't bug me that much because if I don't want to use them, I don't use them. But it is interesting that Turn 10 removes the non-real world money stuff and Poly adds in real world money MT's.
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You forget the times when Turn 10 got roasted for "planning to add them later to get higher Reviews at the start"...and then PD add them later and we all like:

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EvilBoris

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Derrick01 said:
Leave it to polyphony to be years behind everyone else.
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Their attention to detail is industry leading, they just needed the time to get the Micro-transactions so precise and Micro-level that nobody would notice them. They are only a small team and you have to give them credit for taking time out of doing other things in order to implement it.
 
Luchashaq

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Cronogear said:
As long as everything still costs the same in-game and pay2win isn't a thing, I don't really see a problem.

...but then I would question what the hell the point of adding microtransactions is at that point, especially since they went out of their way to say this wasn't going to happen before. Is this going to be a focus going forward?

And no, being able to "turn them off" doesn't change anything.
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Yup, imI not buying micro transaction laden games wether they are needed or not. If I had bought this I would be livid right now.

They will get away with it since the games press is fucking useless at best when it comes to this sort of thing.
 
Godzilla24

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Why are some trying to discredit the OP when it's pretty much a fact that PD said one thing and did something else.
 
OuterLimits

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Lmao at people giving OP shit. They said it wouldn't have them but now it does . Pretty simple really. I don't think it's a bad implementation of MT really but OP is correct that they changed their stance.
 

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I would call this lying on the devs part if they said before launch that the game wasn't going to have MTX but when the game came out it did have MTX. The game has been out for close to a year now so yes the devs have definitely changed course but I wouldn't exactly call it lying. It probably does have something to do with the softish sales of the game which lead to quite heavy price drops so they are trying to recoup some of that lost revenue but I really don't see it as an issue as the MTX don't break the game and they keep releasing free content too.
 
oni-link

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They may be optional but they're only there because they sucker fools into spending more than they would outright, and more importantly, they lied

People will still defend them though

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MrPink

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If nothing has changed in terms of earning money, cars cost the same, etc, it's not really a big issue to me other than it appears to be a change of plans/going back on their word. There's a principle matter here....but the impact specifically in this case here is...small.

It's absurdly easy to gain money in the game and get cars in GTS.
 
danowat

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GT threads never disappoint.

OP has a narrative, changing your mind doesn't equal lying, holy shit people!
 
Haze

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darkside said:
Cars cost exactly the same number of credits they cost before... and you still have the option of buying them

I'm honestly struggling to see the issue here. Am I missing something?
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A company said one thing, explicitly, and did the complete opposite. I wonder if any other company did this if it would be defended like this.
 
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OuterLimits said:
Lmao at people giving OP shit. They said it wouldn't have them but now it does . Pretty simple really. I don't think it's a bad implementation of MT really but OP is correct that they changed their stance.
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Yeah it's amazing at how quickly people will attack someone to defend their favourite corporations interests, even when the OP is objectively and unquestionably correct
 
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cakely said:
No, the OP didn't mention that at all. He opined that the "ensuing low sales" of GTS were the the reason MTX were introduced. It's the premise of this thread.
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I meant he went out of his way to mention the low sales which was weird because they've said it's over 5mil. My bad I should have added that in my previous post.
 
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Rzarekta said:
These new transactions don't impact the game at all for those who don't want to partake, and I welcome the addition because it will help fund additional support in the future. But yea, I get the overall point you're making, but it's still a poor attempt to create a new controversy.
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He didn't say that they impact or don't impact the game, what he said is true.

besides, can anyone guarantee that this behavior will not lead to decisions that affect this or future titles? look how things started with EA/Activision and what happened later... those people built a lot of technology and algorithms into their games to make players pay more money.

saying you won't do something and still doing it later maybe when you didn't have the results you expected is not a good sign.
 
SolidSnakex

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MouldyK said:
You forget the times when Turn 10 got roasted for "planning to add them later to get higher Reviews at the start"...and then PD add them later and we all like:

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Is that really what's happening here? This thread already has more posts that the thread about them adding a completely new track and 7 new cars for free.
 
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MrPink said:
If nothing has changed in terms of earning money, cars cost the same, etc, it's not really a big issue to me other than it appears to be a change of plans.

It's absurdly easy to gain money in the game and get cars in GTS.
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Change of plan after promising that u won't do something is literally lieing lol. I don't promise u that i won't borrow your car anymore without permission only for me to borrow your car literally next year without your permission. It means i break my promise and lied to your face lol.
 

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"Able to be hidden" now makes microtransactions okay LMAO

I usually have nothing against DLC and microtransactions. The only bad look here is that they said they wouldn´t include it in their game and they did, simple as that. They lied and gave the middle finger to the consumer. From what I saw the microtransaction so far is pretty small, sure, but it opens the door for something bigger in the future if we don´t complain, voice our opinion and ask them what happened for the devs/publisher to backtrack on their words.

I also disagree with the idea that they gave a lot of shit "free" post-launch so they can do things like that. GT Sports released without a lot of content. The "free" content is basically what was missing from a full, $59 product. So what they do is that they release a game that is missing a lot of cars and tracks, "support" it and then try to pass the image of amazing supportive developers. Same thing happened with Arms for the Switch. Game releases with few characters and almost no game modes or arenas. In the coming months more characters that should be there from the start were released, and they used the excuse of "supporting" the game with free content.
 
ghostcrew

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Wraith said:
Okay, I should say I haven't played since Forza 4. And it could be I'm just thinking of the career mode.
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Blimey, there's been six Forza games out since then! Haha. I can't remember how F4 did it tbf. The car packs in modern Forza unlock the cars for you at purchase though. Straight into your garage.
 
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