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Mr. Pointy

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Oct 28, 2017
5,141
Some of the GT League races are great. The Group 2 races, the F-1500 races, all the Endurance races are great fun.
 

KennyLinder

Game Designer at EA
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
3,621
GT should of done away with buying cars in this game, it's not really about that anymore. It's annoying meeting up for online races and not having a car, or credits to buy them. Buying a pack of credits gives the player an option, at least.
 

Yiazmat

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Oct 25, 2017
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CozMick

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Oct 27, 2017
1,242
All of this amazing content and Euro clickbait Gamer run with an article highlighting the mtx introduced.... smh.
 

Deleted member 888

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Someone should create a topic about the microtransactions. Mainly because Kaz prior to launch went on record saying they wouldn't have them.

I guess poor sales going by GT standards and a current path of having to add content for free to try and make this more like a traditional GT game has left them scrambling to make money.
 

Deleted member 20297

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Someone should create a topic about the microtransactions. Mainly because Kaz prior to launch went on record saying they wouldn't have them.

I guess poor sales going by GT standards and a current path of having to add content for free to try and make this more like a traditional GT game has left them scrambling to make money.
GAAS, additional monetization options... It works for others and thus, they are taking the chance here, too. But if Kaz really said before that the game won't have mtx, than this is really something to discuss.
Edit: found it: https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-will-not-feature-microtransactions/
Originally questioned by Gema Show Indo, Kazunori Yamauchi's response confirmed online updates and DLC including both cars and tracks. When asked again for clarification on microtransactions, the response was a decisive "no".
 

Deleted member 888

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GAAS, additional monetization options... It works for others and thus, they are taking the chance here, too. But if Kaz really said before that the game won't have mtx, than this is really something to discuss.

Speaking at the PlayStation Experience event in Malaysia, the series creator confirmed GT Sport will not feature microtransactions.

Originally questioned by Gema Show Indo, Kazunori Yamauchi's response confirmed online updates and DLC including both cars and tracks. When asked again for clarification on microtransactions, the response was a decisive "no".

For many players, this news will be a welcome change from GT6. That game introduced the controversial feature to the franchise, offering credits for real-world cash via the PS Store.

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-will-not-feature-microtransactions/
 
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JamboGT

JamboGT

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Oct 25, 2017
1,447
The new track seems really good from what I have tried, got a few laps before leaving for work.

Am torn with the microtransactions. On one side I don't need any of them as I have all the cars under 2 million and this doesn't change the economy in the game. Also the game has got a tonne of free content and updates, and even with these microtransactions all the content is free and as easy to get now as beforehand. But on the other hand, I don't like microtransactions.

At least they haven't interfered with the design of the game and you know what you are going to get. No chance involved.
 

Callibretto

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,492
Indonesia
I remember people hating the ability to buy car with real money is that developer will purposefully increase the in game money cost to push people to pay with real money instead.

It's been a while since I played gts, but how does the ingame money cost look like compare to the real money price. Does that seems fair?

Do player have to grind for hours just to buy these cars?
 
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JamboGT

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Oct 25, 2017
1,447
Well you can earn about 1.875 million in an hour and the maximum cost of a car you can pay money for is 2 million. So its not too bad. The key thing is that they haven't changed the economy. I have no intention of ever using the microtransactions at all personally.

Some examples of the new car costs, the 787b costs 1 million, the same as the other Group C cars. The GT LM Test car is 450000, the same as the other Group 3 cars.
 

xrnzaaas

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,125
Imo releasing MTX's for all cars would be unhealthy, but limiting them to vehicles costing 2 million and less is an acceptable solution so that the game can keep getting free content.

I just hope that PD will avoid two potential shitstorms:
- Demanding insane prices for newly introduced "common" cars
- Severely lowering the chances of getting expensive cars from daily workouts (although that will probably be difficult to track)
 

CozMick

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,242
I remember people hating the ability to buy car with real money is that developer will purposefully increase the in game money cost to push people to pay with real money instead.

It's been a while since I played gts, but how does the ingame money cost look like compare to the real money price. Does that seems fair?

Do player have to grind for hours just to buy these cars?

The vehicles that need a good amount of grinding can't be purchased with real money.
 

Apex88

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Jan 15, 2018
1,428
I remember people hating the ability to buy car with real money is that developer will purposefully increase the in game money cost to push people to pay with real money instead.

It's been a while since I played gts, but how does the ingame money cost look like compare to the real money price. Does that seems fair?

Do player have to grind for hours just to buy these cars?
It's the opposite.

Only cars under 2m can be purchased. Cars like the 330P4 and XJ13 are 20m and need to be won or grind. The latest Mercedes F1 car is 2m yet in GT5 the Ferrari was 10m.

It takes about an hour to grind for 1m-2m. I've won multiple version of all the 20m cars thanks to completing daily mileage.
 

Mush

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Nov 1, 2017
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Uhhhhh, where are all these poses from? Because I can only select from about a 1/3 of the ones in this picture.
 

benzy

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Oct 25, 2017
4,262
Someone should create a topic about the microtransactions. Mainly because Kaz prior to launch went on record saying they wouldn't have them.

I guess poor sales going by GT standards and a current path of having to add content for free to try and make this more like a traditional GT game has left them scrambling to make money.

GAAS, additional monetization options... It works for others and thus, they are taking the chance here, too. But if Kaz really said before that the game won't have mtx, than this is really something to discuss.
Edit: found it: https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-will-not-feature-microtransactions/

How do you guys expect them to keep providing almost monthly free DLC car packs for possibly another 200+ cars, which is in addition to new tracks? It was either this, turn to paid DLC packs, or a worst route of MTX/lootboxes. These aren't even the type of MTX that forces you to resort to them with real money by starving you of gameplay currency, the in-game economy is the same as the PS2 GTs and getting in-game credits is the same as it was at launch. The expensive cars in the game >2 million credits aren't even apart of this, you can't purchase those with real money.

This is considerably better than the paid DLC model which forces you to spend actual money on new DLC content. Literally nothing has changed except for the option to purchase cars for instant access, it would be a different matter if the in-game economy changed but that's not the case.

It is way better than this shit.

GT5
  • Complete Pack ($11.99)
    • Containing Track Pack 1, Racing Car Pack 1, Racing Gear Pack 1 and Paint Pack 1.
Released December 2011Edit
Released 18th January 2012Edit
Released 27th June 2012Edit
Released 25th September 2012Edit
A new cumulative package which contains all the aforementioned content, named "GT5 Promotional Content Pack" ($26.99) was released for a limited time on Spring 2015.
 
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Deleted member 20297

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How do you guys expect them to keep providing almost monthly free DLC car packs for possibly another 200+ cars, which is in addition to new tracks? It was either this, turn to paid DLC packs, or a worst route of MTX/lootboxes. These aren't even the type of MTX that forces you to resort to them with real money by starving you of gameplay currency, the in-game economy is the same as the PS2 GTs and getting in-game credits is the same as it was at launch. The expensive cars in the game >2 million credits aren't even apart of this, you can't purchase those with real money.
How would I care as a customer? I don't care. And don't redefine MTX - it is MTX .They said before they won't include it.
Yes, they are patching a lot in (and they had to, the content at launch had to be extended) but how does that change the fact they now introduce MTX for additional monetization?
 

Deleted member 888

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How do you guys expect them to keep providing almost monthly free DLC car packs for possibly another 200+ cars, which is in addition to new tracks? It was either this, turn to paid DLC packs, or a worst route of MTX/lootboxes. These aren't even the type of MTX that forces you to resort to them with real money by starving you of gameplay currency, the in-game economy is the same as the PS2 GTs and getting in-game credits is the same as it was at launch. The expensive cars in the game >2 million credits aren't even apart of this, you can't purchase those with real money.

This is considerably better than the paid DLC model which forces you to spend actual money on new DLC content. Literally nothing has changed except for the option to purchase cars for instant access, it would be a different matter if the in-game economy changed but that's not the case.

It is way better than this shit.

GT5
  • Complete Pack ($11.99)
    • Containing Track Pack 1, Racing Car Pack 1, Racing Gear Pack 1 and Paint Pack 1.
Released December 2011Edit
Released 18th January 2012Edit
Released 27th June 2012Edit
Released 25th September 2012Edit
A new cumulative package which contains all the aforementioned content, named "GT5 Promotional Content Pack" ($26.99) was released for a limited time on Spring 2015.

"Unfortunately" for PD my expectations of them wasn't releasing a barebones game. I fully expect them to have to update Sport to something like what GT7 would have been given the amount of time they had to work on it and what they sold as standard to gamers with GT5/GT6. I've got very little sympathy for sob stories around finances right now and I would hope the studio would respect the lofty standards fans have of them considering how competitors are advancing whilst PD seem to be regressing with the launch of Sport.

They aren't updating this with content for charity for me, they're doing it to save their bacon after what they released as GT Sport at launch.

Maybe once GT7 releases and it's as content rich as we've come to expect we can talk about ways to monetize post-release. Adding MTs to Sport is going to be criticized due to a large collection of factors. IMO irrespective of what they've released so far as content updates it's not worthy of being monetized like this. PDs reputation is on the line here, fix and update Sport [on your dime] and learn from it. Don't ask us to "pay" for mistakes made during development.

Given the amount of content in GT5/GT6 it was hard to be that offended by some content packs/paid DLC. Much like Driveclub managed to do a well respected season pass.

The second gamers start holding PD to decreasing standards the more the GT franchise will stall and lose its footing. At least the journalists reviewing GT games have been telling Kaz and PD for years why they keep getting points docked. It's up to PD to listen. As of right now Sport should be continued to be updated to something resembling a full GT game and if Sony want they should rebrand and "re-release" it into retail advising potential customers it's "Sport 2.0". Not releasing MTs like some sort of beggar saying "our sales are slowing down and we're going to hold you accountable for that".
 
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benzy

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Oct 25, 2017
4,262
How would I care as a customer? I don't care. And don't redefine MTX - it is MTX .They said before they won't include it.
Yes, they are patching a lot in (and they had to, the content at launch had to be extended) but how does that change the fact they now introduce MTX for additional monetization?

Pretty simple minded to consider all "MTX" the same. What does this particular MTX implementation change for you? Nothing. Post-launch DLC is still free. The in-game economy is the same, getting the cars with in-game credits and not real-world money would take you the same amount of time whether it was before or after this update, so literally nothing has changed except there's now an option to buy <2million credit cars for instant access. What's funny is if they actually made you pay for future DLC packs it would probably be considered more accepting.

"Unfortunately" for PD my expectations of them wasn't releasing a barebones game. I fully expect them to have to update Sport to something like what GT7 would have been given the amount of time they had to work on it and what they sold as standard to gamers with GT5/GT6. I've got very little sympathy for sob stories around finances right now and I would hope the studio would respect the lofty standards fans have of them considering how competitors are advancing whilst PD seem to be regressing with the launch of Sport.

They aren't updating this with content for charity for me, they're doing it to save their bacon after what they released as GT Sport at launch.

Maybe once GT7 releases and it's as content rich as we've come to expect we can talk about ways to monetize post-release. Adding MTs to Sport is going to be criticized due to a large collection of factors. IMO irrespective of what they've released so far as content updates it's not worthy of being monetized like this. PDs reputation is on the line here, fix and update Sport [on your dime] and learn from it. Don't ask us to "pay" for mistakes made during development.

Given the amount of content in GT5/GT6 it was hard to be that offended by some content packs/paid DLC. Much like Driveclub managed to do a well respected season pass.

"not worthy of being monetized like this", as if you're actually going to pay for it. You aren't, and aren't required to. And the cars you can buy in game will the take the same amount of time to get as if this update never even took place.

GT5/GT6 actuallly didn't have that much more premium content than GTSport currently does, a lot of it was ported ps2 tracks and car assets. GTS free post-launch DLC already exceeded Driveclub's paid DLC season pass, and there's still considerably less cars in Driveclub compared to GTS.
 

Maturin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,104
Europe
Just tried the new track. The A variant is deathly dull in anything other than a very fast prototype. But variants B and C are good fun in any car.

I wish we could have an update with more fine control of the HUD. There's so much guff there like gear hand-holding and the ugly lap timer smack in the middle of the screen. But you can't get rid of it without getting rid of everything. A bonnet cam and dash cam a la Forza wouldn't go amiss either.
 

ty_hot

Banned
Dec 14, 2017
7,176
People are complaining just to... complain. It doesn't change anything in the game, people can only use real money to get cars that would take and hour or two to buy with ingame credits. There is BoP in all races so noone can actually use real money to have a better car than others. Noone is losing anything, noone is getting any advantage.
 

janusff

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,135
Austin, TX
So there's 6 different variants for the new track? Whoa.

Also is there some good footage anywhere of the new track? Cheers
 

woolyninja

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,028
"Unfortunately" for PD my expectations of them wasn't releasing a barebones game. I fully expect them to have to update Sport to something like what GT7 would have been given the amount of time they had to work on it and what they sold as standard to gamers with GT5/GT6. I've got very little sympathy for sob stories around finances right now and I would hope the studio would respect the lofty standards fans have of them considering how competitors are advancing whilst PD seem to be regressing with the launch of Sport.

They aren't updating this with content for charity for me, they're doing it to save their bacon after what they released as GT Sport at launch.

Maybe once GT7 releases and it's as content rich as we've come to expect we can talk about ways to monetize post-release. Adding MTs to Sport is going to be criticized due to a large collection of factors. IMO irrespective of what they've released so far as content updates it's not worthy of being monetized like this. PDs reputation is on the line here, fix and update Sport [on your dime] and learn from it. Don't ask us to "pay" for mistakes made during development.

Given the amount of content in GT5/GT6 it was hard to be that offended by some content packs/paid DLC. Much like Driveclub managed to do a well respected season pass.

The second gamers start holding PD to decreasing standards the more the GT franchise will stall and lose its footing. At least the journalists reviewing GT games have been telling Kaz and PD for years why they keep getting points docked. It's up to PD to listen. As of right now Sport should be continued to be updated to something resembling a full GT game and if Sony want they should rebrand and "re-release" it into retail advising potential customers it's "Sport 2.0". Not releasing MTs like some sort of beggar saying "our sales are slowing down and we're going to hold you accountable for that".

I feel like GT Sport actually had more content and variety at launch than Gt5 and 6. There's so much single player content to complete. I've probably played 30 hours of single player and still have a bunch of missions and tracks to Gold. And I haven't even touched GT League which was added later.

Add to that the best online racing I've played and what I think is easily the best feeling car handling on consoles and I don't understand the complaints.
 

Brend

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
708
Scotland
New track variant A is deathly dull. Don't mind the other ones but I wish PD would start prioritising real life circuits. Give me Spa goddammit!