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Luminish

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That literally draws the entire wild togwaggle combo. What the ever loving fuck.
Holy shit why?

I guess run dirty rat in every deck and it'll be ok.
 

Copper

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Nov 13, 2017
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This Will probably mean a Nerf, and i'm sad cause tog druid was strong but fair, but this? Yeah no.
 

Boddy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Guys, druid is going to need that card draw after they spent so many cards on getting to 10 mana by turn 4-5.
 

Keyser S

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Oct 26, 2017
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That card is soooo powerful I honestly think they could add (lose a mana crystal for each card drawn) to the text and it would still be okay.
 

Keyser S

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Oct 26, 2017
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I really don't understand why this card is only 4 mana....

Blizzard seem to value tutoring different that basic draw, and the fact you can only play one card drawn the subsequent turn makes the cost kinda make some sense.

If you compare it to Sprint (7 Mana), a Rogue player could get four minions of any cost and possibly play all four next turn.

Of course with Twig, and a few other cards, Druid could cheat out a lot in one turn, but it is not as easy as spamming the board as a Rogue.

Regardless, I still think the card is a problem, and right now I feel Blizzard have gone mad (they probably tested it enough to get the cost correct though, right?....)
 

squidyj

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Oct 25, 2017
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I dunno, I don't see it as being quite as strong as some of you seem to think. Maybe in wild but wild is a dumpster fire.
7 and 10 are pretty weak slots, look at what's in them. What 7 drop do you want to play from hand? Blazecaller? are we playing elemental druid?.
The only way you have a 7-drop that is anywhere near relevant (from the cards we've seen) is if you're running some azalina combo and at that point you're bordering on meme territory. 8 and 9 can definitely be good. Lich King, Alex, maly, etc but I'm not sure drawing those two cards is enough to make this card game-breaking.
Likewise what are you going to play for 10? Maybe you can make a mulchmuncher deck work I guess? Is anyone really going to run deathwing?
I suppose if you put anacondas in your deck this gives you an anaconda and something high value for it to pull but I think between casting this and playing the snake you're losing too much tempo.
 

fertygo

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Oct 25, 2017
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That Druid card seems crazy good in big druid but not so much for other druid at least until UI rotate.. I think I prefer just empty my hand and UI in those deck

But theres chance Big Druid just became ultra busted I guess
 

Luminish

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So druid got 3 widely believed S-tier cards between floop, psychmelon, and Biology Project.

I personally believe Biology Project to be way overhyped, but even then Druid's making bank.

Seriously, a 4 mana sprint that's also a tutor?

Oh, and I take back Ixlid being better than Gloop Spreader in Aviana/Kun, since Ixlid doesn't get tutored by that stupid card. At least you need two 9 mana cards for any of the Aviana/Kun combos?
 
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Keyser S

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Ben Brode left now the inmates run the Asylum. I'm so done with Druidstone.

As much as people loved Brode, his did not signal handedly create every good card in HS. Sure, due to his position, all ideas were funneled through him, but many of those ideas originated elsewhere. Even if he chose to do something else, there is still many good developers at the company. Unless something goes VERY wrong, the game is not going to fall apart became one man steps aside. Sure it loses some charm and personality, but it will be okay. The likes of Dean Ayala, Mike Donais, and Peter Whalen are all very talented at what they do.
 

Luminish

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Oct 25, 2017
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It will suck if it turns into druid stone. It's definitely my least favorite class to play against. Spreading Plague is too annoying.
 

DSP

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draw soulthief, togwaggle, oakheart, hadronox from your deck. What are they smoking over there?

It's been 5 years they still can't balance druid, every year it's broken in the same exact way.
 
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draw soulthief, togwaggle, oakheart, hadronox from your deck. What are they smoking over there?

It's been 5 years they still can't balance druid, every year it's broken in the same exact way.
What is the exact same way it is broken? This seems to be a potential new way to break it.

*edit* I also just went back for a random Data Reaper report and the first one I checked had only one druid deck in tier 2, and none in tier 1. I don't think it's always broken unless you mean something very specific by "broken".
 

DSP

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Ramp -> draw entire deck faster than you can get to 8 mana -> kill you,

every iteration of druid has been same shit. From combo druid, to jade to what we have now. I guess now they have absurd healing on top of the triangle of death as well. The face of their finishers has changed but that's irrelevant, that's just the surface.
 
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Ramp -> draw entire deck faster than you can get to 8 mana -> kill you,

every iteration of druid has been same shit. From combo druid, to jade to what we have now. I guess now they have absurd healing on top of the triangle of death as well. The face of their finishers has changed but that's irrelevant, that's just the surface.
I'm pretty sure that is an exaggeration. I would challenge you to draw all 30 cards before I reach 8 mana even if I used a basic deck, let alone play them without burning them. I can understand disliking ramp but it still isn't always top tier.
 

Voytek

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Oct 25, 2017
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I use to laugh it off when people would say Blizzard has a druid bias. But I gotta admit I'm starting to wonder if maybe there's some truth to it. Have no doubt the Druid legendary spell is going to be insane.
 

Raxious

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ok, so I haven't played this game in years but I kinda wanted to get back into it. Are there any tips for starting now?
 

Won

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That literally draws the entire wild togwaggle combo. What the ever loving fuck.

I'm one of these people who end up coming back to the game semi-regualry at the very least, despite the game's various problems and shortcomings, but then I see this and I know, this time I'm gonna stay the hell away.
 

The Wizard

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Oct 25, 2017
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A class card that is worse than faceless manipulator in most situations... underwhelming. I knew when they showed the legendary yesterday we'd be getting at least one more targeted spell for priest but combining the two of those is a lot of effort for very little payoff.
 
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I dunno, I don't see it as being quite as strong as some of you seem to think. Maybe in wild but wild is a dumpster fire.
7 and 10 are pretty weak slots, look at what's in them. What 7 drop do you want to play from hand? Blazecaller? are we playing elemental druid?.
The only way you have a 7-drop that is anywhere near relevant (from the cards we've seen) is if you're running some azalina combo and at that point you're bordering on meme territory. 8 and 9 can definitely be good. Lich King, Alex, maly, etc but I'm not sure drawing those two cards is enough to make this card game-breaking.
Likewise what are you going to play for 10? Maybe you can make a mulchmuncher deck work I guess? Is anyone really going to run deathwing?
I suppose if you put anacondas in your deck this gives you an anaconda and something high value for it to pull but I think between casting this and playing the snake you're losing too much tempo.
The fact that you can ALWAYS have Oakheart on turn 9 is a fucking problem. Then you can guaranteed drop Tyrantus the next turn. Shit is busted as fuck in big druid. Yeah there's nothing on turn 7 but you just thinned your deck and increased your chances of drawing DK.
 

DSP

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I think priest and rogue cards are meh so far, there is no cohesion in there, just scattered ideas. Most of them bad.
 

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Control paladin needs a win condition still.

Better control tools are good and that legendary plus the 5 mana equality are decent additions but it needs to be working towards something.

Is exodia even remotely practical in standard? It would have to be some zola brewmaster bounce crap at this point right?
 

DSP

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I think biology project, flobby floop and juice are all going to be played a LOT.

What's up with the name of these cards though? Blizzard is trolling. The memes are writing themselves, "he got the juice", "flobby druid" etc
 

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I think flobby floop might prove a little clunky to see tons of play but it can be an insane follow-up in big druid.
 
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