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Totakeke · Jul 27, 2018

Basileus777 said:
I've barely used Therion. Tressa provides enough money that you can just buy most of what you need.

I did get most of my gear before chapter 4 with Tressa. I've went back to all the towns I've visited (which is not all of them) to gear up more for Chapter 4 and found that I've already bought most of the good stuff except for the forbidden weapons which I wanted to avoid because a lot of them carry negative effects I didn't want. Then I filled up the rest of my gear with equipment I got from chapter 4 dungeons.

If your argument is that you don't need those gear to beat the game, hey maybe you're right because I feel overpowered right now. Doesn't change the fact that the dungeons have good loot.

Firemind · Jul 27, 2018

Disclaimer said:
I think purple chests should have just required the thief job on a character, but I understand that their inclusion isn't for OCD players—it's to balance out the fact that neither Tressa nor Therion have a unique in-combat command/function, and so they benefit from an additional out-of-combat effect that's fitting for their job: finding money and finding treasure.

Neither has Olberic.

Deleted member 43084 · Jul 27, 2018

Firemind said:
Neither has Olberic.

Olberic has the Boosted Defend which Covers.

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

Clix said:
So, question. Trying to think party comps here.

Would: Tressa, Cyrus, Ophelia, Therion be viable?

I am thinking for having my Team One and Team Two.

1- Tressa/Thief or Warrior
2- Cyrus/Merchant
3- Ophelia/Dancer
4- Therion/Warrior or Hunter

1- Primrose/Scholar or Thief
2- Alf/Cleric
3- H'aanit/Warrior
4- Olberic/Apothecary or Hunter

Or should I shuffle around a bit?

Swap Therion with H'aanit or Olberic. And find a way to always have Cyrus on my team no matter what?

That first team idea would be more than viable. The game's super flexible. You don't need to have a team will access to all four path actions, but it is ideal for completing side quests as you come across them.

Subjobs aren't worth stressing over. Each character isn't going to have a set one the entire game; you'll be changing them up fairly frequently, especially if you end up mixing those teams, and need people to fulfill different roles at different times.

OfficerRaichu15 · Jul 27, 2018

Ha'nnit Chapter 1 boss hits fucking hard. I beat it but holy shit.

Naar · Jul 27, 2018

hemo memo said:
Okay what/who is the most interesting story/character to start with?

Story wise Therion. Otherwise it does not matter at all

OrdinaryPrime · Jul 27, 2018

Totakeke said:
I did get most of my gear before chapter 4 with Tressa. I've went back to all the towns I've visited (which is not all of them) to gear up more for Chapter 4 and found that I've already bought most of the good stuff except for the forbidden weapons which I wanted to avoid because a lot of them carry negative effects I didn't want. Then I filled up the rest of my gear with equipment I got from chapter 4 dungeons.

If your argument is that you don't need those gear to beat the game, hey maybe you're right because I feel overpowered right now. Doesn't change the fact that the dungeons have good loot.

I don't think many of the Chapter 4 bosses are very hard even if you just naturally play the game through without any grinding and some minor dungeon exploring. The secret classes make the main game a cinch but seem to be 100% necessary to beat the post game (this seems like the wrong way to say this in English but I'm not sure of another way).

Opa-Pa · Jul 27, 2018

Freezasaurus said:
I didn't like that they forced the confrontation. If there were two options, say, "Challenge" or "Bro-down," I would have chosen the latter.

I know what you mean, I'd have chosen that too (I actually tried to quit the challenge prompt a few times, haha), but I think the fact that it forced you to fight him really drove home Olberic's feelings. Obviously I half expected having to fight Erhardt eventually since the beginning, but with Olberic being such a righteous guy and with the way ch3 had progressed up to that point, part of me thought he was going to forgive him... And I guess he did in the end, but I liked that he was allowed to be a bit self-serving in the process.

Plus I'm a sucker for games using mechanics like that to tell a story, haha.

donkey show said:

LMAO hahaha.

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

Firemind said:
Neither has Olberic.

Wrong. Olberic has boostable defend. Tressa and Therion are the only ones without character-specific in-combat utility.

leafcutter said:
Thanks, I didn't know about the post game requirements! So would it be better to do all four chapters for four characters and then start with the other four, or swap out to do them all at roughly the same time? Or does that not really matter...

Either would work! Entirely up to you and your preferences.

The former might result in the second party's first few chapters being trivialized by access to endgame gear, whereas switching them out and doing them more evenly would present a more consistent difficulty level.

Firemind · Jul 27, 2018

minimaxir said:
Olberic has the Boosted Defend which Covers.

Really? Wow that's kind of lame.

srtrestre · Jul 27, 2018

donkey show said:

It's funny b/c it's true.

OrdinaryPrime · Jul 27, 2018

Firemind said:
Really? Wow that's kind of lame.

You mean that ability is lame or the fact that Tressa and Therion don't have in combat abilities?

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

Firemind said:
Really? Wow that's kind of lame.

Incite+Sidestep Olberic is quite good for tanking in the early-mid game, before Runelord Tressa ruins everything.

leafcutter · Jul 27, 2018

Disclaimer said:
Wrong. Olberic has boostable defend. Tressa and Therion are the only ones without character-specific in-combat utility.

Either would work! Entirely up to you and your preferences.

The former might result in the second party's first few chapters being trivialized by access to endgame gear, whereas switching them out and doing them more evenly would present a more consistent difficulty level.

Right on. Thanks for the advice. This is my first jrpg since FF IX and I was roped in by the nostalgic aspects. It feels weird to be almost 20 hours into a game and still wondering how to approach it. Haha

OrdinaryPrime · Jul 27, 2018

Disclaimer said:
Incite+Sidestep Olberic is quite good for tanking in the early-mid game, before Runelord Tressa ruins everything.

Runelord Tressa is the best buffer in the game, considering she can also heal HP and SP with Rest easily as well. It's actually good the game doesn't allow magic to be dodged as far as I can tell.

Legacy · Jul 27, 2018

Spent my last few sessions save scumming for the 3% steal items, now I can start playing again!

'3y Kingdom · Jul 27, 2018

Disclaimer said:
dungeons...'re clearly carefully designed as individually distinct and visually captivating dioramas.

The same could be said of FFXIII ;P

Deleted member 4090 · Jul 27, 2018

Legacy said:
Spent my last few sessions save scumming for the 3% steal items, now I can start playing again!

You could have just bought them with Tressa...

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

'3y Kingdom said:
The same could be said of FFXIII ;P

...Not really, lol. FFXIII is one long corridor of a game without so much as towns.

It's also not a diorama, and thus doesn't utilize Octopath's unique method of creating visual puzzles! :P

It can be begrudgingly pretty, I admit.

Firemind · Jul 27, 2018

OrdinaryPrime said:
You mean that ability is lame or the fact that Tressa and Therion don't have in combat abilities?

Olberic's so lame that I chose Olberic as my starting character and I didn't know he has this until now.

WarpSpeedMolasses · Jul 27, 2018

Guys do you recommend (or is it even possible) to get 4 characters finish their respective stories then get the other 4, or do I have to do chp1 for all 8 first?

'3y Kingdom · Jul 27, 2018

Disclaimer said:
...Not really, lol. FFXIII is one long corridor of a game without so much as towns.

It's also not a diorama, and thus doesn't utilize Octopath's unique method of creating visual puzzles! :P

It can be begrudgingly pretty, I admit.

Touché. Octopath's a much better game, at any rate.

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

WarpSpeedMolasses said:
Guys do you recommend (or is it even possible) to get 4 characters finish their respective stories then get the other 4, or do I have to do chp1 for all 8 first?

I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, as it'd make the game's difficulty inconsistent (the second party would be almost as strong as the first, even at low level, by virtue of having endgame equipment), but it's very doable.

WarpSpeedMolasses · Jul 27, 2018

Disclaimer said:
I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, as it'd make the game's difficulty inconsistent (the second party would be almost as strong as the first, even at low level, by virtue of having endgame equipment), but it's very doable.

Hmm. I just didn't wanna have to juggle leveling two separate parties of 4 simultaneously, but I didn't think about the end game equipment stuff...

Valus · Jul 27, 2018

WarpSpeedMolasses said:
Hmm. I just didn't wanna have to juggle leveling two separate parties of 4 simultaneously, but I didn't think about the end game equipment stuff...

I did it and it worked fine. Currently finished chapter 2s of the second party. You can make them as strong or weak as you want with all the gear and jobs you have. I consider it a "new game +" and I'm enjoying it.

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

WarpSpeedMolasses said:
Hmm. I just didn't wanna have to juggle leveling two separate parties of 4 simultaneously, but I didn't think about the end game equipment stuff...

What I did was simply rotate people out one or two (or sometimes three) at a time, having them fulfill each other's roles.

Neglected characters catch up pretty quickly, and won't suffer from much power loss regardless, since most stats come from gear.

Using my method, they'll all stay within roughly +/-10 levels of each other, and will have similar strength levels.

donkey · Jul 27, 2018

CrazyHal · Jul 27, 2018

40 hours in and I still can't figure out what Therion is laughing about during battles.

Holden · Jul 27, 2018

CrazyHal said:
40 hours in and I still can't figure out what Therion is laughing about during battles.

Wahaha!

Opa-Pa · Jul 27, 2018

I remember there being some talk about breaking the 9999 damage limit or something similar, how does that work? I've started to do maximum damage with Olberic and I don't wanna limit his power.

CrazyHal said:
40 hours in and I still can't figure out what Therion is laughing about during battles.

Cracks me up every time lol.

Tfritz · Jul 27, 2018

I feel like the revelation that the Crows are based, like, five feet away from Primrose's old house reframes her whole story in a way that makes the whole dancer aspect of her backstory completely ridiculous.

donkey · Jul 27, 2018

Opa-Pa said:
I remember there being some talk about breaking the 9999 damage limit or something similar, how does that work? I've started to do maximum damage with Olberic and I don't wanna limit his power.

Cracks me up every time lol.

Equip "Surpassing Power," the fourth warrior skill. It will allow you to go up to 99,999.

Papercuts · Jul 27, 2018

Opa-Pa said:
I remember there being some talk about breaking the 9999 damage limit or something similar, how does that work? I've started to do maximum damage with Olberic and I don't wanna limit his power.

Cracks me up every time lol.

Final warrior passive skill removes the damage cap.

Opa-Pa · Jul 27, 2018

Oh wow, I don't know how I missed that one. Thank you.

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

Tfritz said:
I feel like the revelation that the Crows are based, like, five feet away from Primrose's old house reframes her whole story in a way that makes the whole dancer aspect of her backstory completely ridiculous.

Chapter 3 really did a number on her story with the revelation of the final Crow's identity.

The gardener? Really? Completely unbelievable that the other two would yield power to him, let alone that he could lead an organized crime syndicate.

Extremely unearned twist to play on Prim's emotions. Was really disappointed.

HockeyBird · Jul 27, 2018

First thing I do went entering a new town is to make sure that Cyrus and Therion are both in my party and then I scrutinize and steal from every single person. Only after that will I start a quest.

Tfritz · Jul 27, 2018

Disclaimer said:
Chapter 3 really did a number on her story with the revelation of the final Crow's identity.

The gardener? Really? Completely unbelievable that the other two would yield power to him, let alone that he could lead an organized crime syndicate.

Extremely unearned twist to play on Prim's emotions. Was really disappointed.

Yeah, I'd already been to all the chapter 4 towns, so I knew that someone was gonna end up at a theater, so as soon as what's his face showed up and said he was a playwright I was like "Oh he's the leader of the crows," then I kept an eye open to see if I could discern his actual motivations, and I saw like two or three possible ones from their conversations, but then it's like, no, he's apparently just a cackling cartoon character who did it for the drama of it all.

(Although maybe there will be further revelations in Chapter 4 that contextualize this in a way that makes sense)

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

Tfritz said:
Yeah, I'd already been to all the chapter 4 towns, so I knew that someone was gonna end up at a theater, so as soon as what's his face showed up and said he was a playwright I was like "Oh he's the leader of the crows," then I kept an eye open to see if I could discern his actual motivations, and I saw like two or three possible ones from their conversations, but then it's like, no, he's apparently just a cackling cartoon character who did it for the drama of it all.

(Although maybe there will be further revelations in Chapter 4 that contextualize this in a way that makes sense)

Yeah, it made me so mad. Only story I've been that disappointed by so far.

You know that mounting political tension revolving around the Azelharts' reign and Geoffrey's assassination? Naw, the gardener masterminded his death to dramatize his daughter's life. What?

Valus · Jul 27, 2018

Speaking of Primrose

Did they ever explain what it was her dad learned that he shouldn't have?? They made this big deal about it along other things like how the house stayed in power but I never saw any resolution, the dude was just crazy.

Deleted member 43084 · Jul 27, 2018

Valus said:
Speaking of Primrose

Did they ever explain what it was her dad learned that he shouldn't have?? They made this big deal about it along other things like how the house stayed in power but I never saw any resolution, the dude was just crazy.

This is answered in the final dungeon.

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

Valus said:
Speaking of Primrose

Did they ever explain what it was her dad learned that he shouldn't have?? They made this big deal about it along other things like how the house stayed in power but I never saw any resolution, the dude was just crazy.

Considering the Obsidians were an organization prior to his assassination, I assume he found out that its leadership had day jobs as his household staff? lol.

Granted, I've not yet done postgame, so could be something else.

Enforcer · Jul 27, 2018

Anyone elses Switch getting really hot playing this? I don't think I've ever seen my Switch vent so much before.

Poutine Runner 2049 · Jul 27, 2018

leafcutter said:
Right on. Thanks for the advice. This is my first jrpg since FF IX and I was roped in by the nostalgic aspects. It feels weird to be almost 20 hours into a game and still wondering how to approach it. Haha

It took me 20+ hours before discovering the Skills tab for unlocking skills. I recall the demo introducing it but totally forgot about it when the full game came out.

Needless to say after upgrading all the skills, the game's become a bit of a cakewalk.

ShinobiBk · Jul 27, 2018

Disclaimer said:
Wrong. Olberic has boostable defend. Tressa and Therion are the only ones without character-specific in-combat utility.

Yes

But I think they're the only characters with overworld utility, outside of the basic path actions. Like Therion can open chests and Tressa can just spot money lying around

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

ShinobiBk said:
Yes

But I think they're the only characters with overworld utility, outside of the basic path actions. Like Therion can open chests and Tressa can just spot money lying around

Exactly. That overworld utility is their differentiation, their compensation for not having unique in-combat utility.

Frustrating from an OCD perspective to be locked out of purples without Therion, but alas. It's balanced.

ahdurian · Jul 27, 2018

just finished getting all the protags and now just visiting the shrines to get the second jobs
trying to figure out who i want to use for what
team so far is
H'aanit (main): Hunter / Warrior
Oberion: Thief / Dancer
Primrose: Dancer / Scholar

trying to figure out what would give me the best workarounds for a last character
interested in using the Tressa or Alfin, as I like both of them over Olberic, Cyrus and Ophillia, but don't know what i would give them as a second job

The Dink · Jul 27, 2018

We talking about Primrose in here? Because damn does her story have issues.

How old even IS Simeon anyway? Dude has the same sprite in the flashbacks while Primrose uses a much younger one (she's only 12/13 at this point after all). So he's either a grooming pedophile (and the game never even touches on this WTF) or is somehow the leader of the most elite secret society in his mid-teens (which is more WTF how is he in charge). What's even his role in Obsidian? The other two wings were in charge of bribing (via prostitution and blackmail) and enforcement (the guard captain that kills and keeps power in check) but Simeon is over here writing plays and apparently wasting money on the theater? So stupid. Also what's even his motivation for his interactions with Primrose? His villainous heel-turn is so over-the-top and it doesn't get any better in the fourth chapter where he just seems to be torturing her because he's "evil". Such a lame character in what was the best story. Dude needed some additional development in the end-game but sadly there's hardly anything there to be found. Fucking puke. Also, how shitty are the men in the Sandlands that over the course of ten years the only guy she ever has feelings for is the dude she crushed on when she was thirteen?

Wispmetas · Jul 27, 2018

donkey show said:

Oh god glad I wasnt the only one to remember this during the game haha

Well just finished all the second chapters, so far really enjoying the game, but each individual story is really leaving a lot to be desired, It's really lacking any depth, so far only Olberic seems to have an arc of some sort...But it is only the 2nd chapter, well see how it progresses on to the 3rd one.

The gameplay is the thing that is really making me want to play this, love exploring each and every city and just use Path Actions on everyone! And the combat is amazing, always thinking of ways to maximize my damage in the 1st turn to see if i can get those extras on exp and JP, and the boss battles are great, but I believe I'm a bit overleveled for some, since I have Cyrus and Therion in my party at all times.

The music and the visuals are always top notch, I am playing trough god of war at the same time as this, and I am baffled by how this game's music sticks out a lot more than GoW's, since that game is a spectacle in every way. Really makes me appreciate the work made in the OST department for this.

Really excited to continue this journey, only had to farm a bit to get my characters that were low up to speed, but even that was very short since I could just equip them with stronger stuff and they would hold their weight pretty well!

Having said this, I am 34 hours into the game, and I don't even think I am taking my time with the game, always moving from chapter to chapter, it really boggles my mind how that kotaku reviewer could finish this in 36 hours haha

Disclaimer · Jul 27, 2018

ahdurian said:
just finished getting all the protags and now just visiting the shrines to get the second jobs
trying to figure out who i want to use for what
team so far is
H'aanit (main): Hunter / Warrior
Oberion: Thief / Dancer
Primrose: Dancer / Scholar

trying to figure out what would give me the best workarounds for a last character
interested in using the Tressa or Alfin, as I like both of them over Olberic, Cyrus and Ophillia, but don't know what i would give them as a second job

I would use Alfyn in that setup to round out your path actions.

Therion makes a good battery with the Merchant subjob, or you could give him Cleric to have a self-sufficient healer with Steal SP.

Alfyn works with any subjob, so whatever Therion leaves open.

DTC · Jul 27, 2018

I actually think Olberic has the best story of all of the characters. Alfyn is my 2nd favorite and Primrose third favorite.

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