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AegonSnake

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Oct 25, 2017
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Trump is so getting reelected lol.

Mueller better find some criminal charges or we are stuck with this guy for another 4 years.
 

PanickyFool

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good thing the government has raised taxes to slow down this growth. Too much of this growth in wealth is being captured by homeowners in high growth Urban centers.

(Seriously)
 

Dark Knight

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I'm sorry but people in here saying this pointless stat is going to lead to Trump's reelection are dumb as hell lol.
 

Monorojo

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Only a complete idiot would hope for the economy to collapse. We saw that with Obama; I remember some on the right hoping for the rumors of a Chinese credit collapse to happen back in 2012, which would impact the US economy negatively and help the republican candidate.

That being said, there's nothing wrong with anticipating/expecting an economic downturn due to bad policies, which is what most people here do. Including myself.

There is a clear distinction between the two and predicting it is fine (and likely accurate)

I get the feeling many here want the economy to falter because they believe a faltering economy will lead to trump being ousted. They want the suffering of millions because they want some figurehead removed and be usurped by a different figurehead from the party they better approve of. In this case, the end does not justify the means in my view.

If that isn't what's happening here then I misread the room and I apologize. But I have my sincere doubts.
 

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There is a clear distinction between the two and predicting it is fine (and likely accurate)

I get the feeling many here want the economy to falter because they believe a faltering economy will lead to trump being ousted. They want the suffering of millions because they want some figurehead removed and be usurped figurehead they better approve of. In this case, the end does not justify the means in my view.

If that isn't what's happening here then I misread the room and I apologize. But I have my sincere doubts.
Trump's taking care of all that on his own. None of us have to hope for anything except for him to be gone.
 

rambis

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Oct 27, 2017
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There is a clear distinction between the two and predicting it is fine (and likely accurate)

I get the feeling many here want the economy to falter because they believe a faltering economy will lead to trump being ousted. They want the suffering of millions because they want some figurehead removed by a figurehead they better approve of.

If that isn't what's happening here then I misread the room and I apologize. But I have my sincere doubts.
Yes, we all want our homes and retirements and all our other investments to tank so we can get a good one on Trump. Got us red handed.
 

Jom

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Oct 25, 2017
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Lol even with the artificially inflated GDP numbers it's still only 5th compared to Obama.
 

Shiloh

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Oct 25, 2017
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So... it's an inflated number that the right are going to use to push that the tariffs are good and "MAGA" before the actual crash?

I'm just going to buckle up.
 

Foffy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Couldn't give a less of a fuck about these numbers due to the precarity problem.

Until that's solved, GDP growth and unemployment numbers are feel good abstractions which allow us to ignore severe problems.
 

Lord Brady

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Oct 26, 2017
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Awesome number. Hopefully it stays high, but I doubt it given how much soybean sales helped this number.
 

Jom

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So... it's an inflated number that the right are going to use to push that the tariffs are good and "MAGA" before the actual crash?

I'm just going to buckle up.
Those people will always find something to push or just flat out make something up so there's no point in worrying about what they're gonna do.

We know that when 0.6% of the 4.1% growth is made up of just fucking soybeans that it's obviously inflated. It's not like the entire world just discovered that American soybeans cure cancer or something.
 

viskod

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Nov 9, 2017
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Soybeans were an insane part of it but they weren't the only thing inflated because of tariff fears. Just the largest thing.
 

Lord Brady

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Oct 26, 2017
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Depends on whether or not China gives in any time soon , though I suspect they're in it for the long haul (as is Trump).
Yep, which means the next report is going to be down. For the sake of the economy I hope not, but looking at how 4.1 was achieved, it's hard to not be pessimistic about the next report.
 

Beer Monkey

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Oct 30, 2017
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This is great news. Hopefully this keeps up.

You know what's allowing it to happen? Pure fuckery that is going to wreck future generations.

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And fuck right off with praising Trump, he's a fucking Nazi and don't be a Nazi enabler or history will remember you.

Also, *actual* great news would be wage growth that would make regular workers more secure.
 

Deleted member 907

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Strawmen? I think you mean people here who want to see the economy tank to hurt Trump, yes?
Yes, it's a strawman unless you think "pwning yourself to pwn the nazi's" is something someone seriously promotes. This isn't a "bitch eating crackers" meme. There is simply no avoiding an economic hit and no way to mitigate the damage. People are already fucked and it's only a matter of when, so framing it as wanting the Nazi cheeto to take an L by any means necessary is disingenuous at best.
 

Conmex

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May 19, 2018
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I'm sorry but people in here saying this pointless stat is going to lead to Trump's reelection are dumb as hell lol.
I think trump is awful but hes going to win because Dems dont have anyone who can beat him in 2020. The new generation like the Ocasio Cortez' of the world wont be ready til 2024 imo.
 

Deleted member 1635

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You know what's allowing it to happen? Pure fuckery that is going to wreck future generations.

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And fuck right off with praising Trump, he's a fucking Nazi and don't be a Nazi enabler or history will remember you.

Also, *actual* great news would be wage growth that would make regular workers more secure.

Bringin' it, Beer Monkey. Damn.
 

Renna Hazel

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Oct 27, 2017
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You know what's allowing it to happen? Pure fuckery that is going to wreck future generations.

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And fuck right off with praising Trump, he's a fucking Nazi and don't be a Nazi enabler or history will remember you.

Also, *actual* great news would be wage growth that would make regular workers more secure.

I'm sorry, but was the bolded aimed at me? That's kind of rude if so.
 

Deleted member 32374

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Yes, it's a strawman unless you think "pwning yourself to pwn the nazi's" is something someone seriously promotes. This isn't a "bitch eating crackers" meme. There is simply no avoiding an economic hit and no way to mitigate the damage. People are already fucked and it's only a matter of when, so framing it as wanting the Nazi cheeto to take an L by any means necessary is disingenuous at best.

I was thinking about posters cheering on traffis that effect mostly red States from canada, China, EU, ect. There is blow back to seeing trump voters have the chickens come home to roost.
 

lmcfigs

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Oct 25, 2017
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While we're on the subject, can someone explain why it is so many firms are buying their stocks back? I'm not sure I understand what's happening.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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This is basically the "cash for clunkers" of GDP reports. Far too much of the increase is from future sales/consumption being pulled forward by tariff fears. We could crash hard in Q3 if something doesn't fill that void.
 

borges

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Oct 28, 2017
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As a non american, its pretty clear that US is doing great, and will keep doing well, at least economically speaking.
Trump was right about economy.
 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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While we're on the subject, can someone explain why it is so many firms are buying their stocks back? I'm not sure I understand what's happening.

The tax cuts went to the shareholders who looked to buy back stocks to have more control over their companies, screwing over regular employees of course.
 

Renna Hazel

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Oct 27, 2017
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As a non american, its pretty clear that US is doing great, and will keep doing well, at least economically speaking.
Trump was right about economy.

Trump claimed Obama was ruining the economy, this growth streak started under President Obama and Trump is benefiting from that. Not much Trump has said has been correct.

With that said, GDP is largely not dictated by government unless there is some kind of outrageous/groundbreaking law passed.
 

Beer Monkey

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'm looking to add to that vehicle figure in the next few weeks. I was going to wait until next spring, but I don't want to pay a tariff premium.

Yeah, there's a car I've got my eye on but it won't ship until Q4 or maybe even Q1. As a result of the trade war, there's a good chance that I will buy *no car at all*.
 

Beer Monkey

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Oct 30, 2017
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As a non american, its pretty clear that US is doing great, and will keep doing well, at least economically speaking.
Trump was right about economy.

The US is not doing well at all. People are spending increasingly greater portions of their income on health care. Savings are at an all time low. Most young to middle-aged Americans will never be able to retire, or will retire into poverty. Young people are saddled with crushing debt and will inherit a massive governmental debt while having their twilight years social safety nets slashed (Social Security and Medicare).
 
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