No, dark humor won't go anywhere. If anything, it will evolve to be less about shitting on marginalized groups
I actually didn't realize he had Jewish heritage. And you're right, he might have some more leeway--but it seems like something with a very narrow line while this is going on.Probably not given the actual context of the film itself and also because he's Jewish, and we usually give Jewish people a lot of leeway in how they choose to mock Hitler.
So ITT
"Racist jokes aren't funny plz stop "
"Fuck off I wanna be entertained morals be damned."
"You can do dark comedy without being bigoted"
"Yeah but then it's not funny."
Basically. Imo, people need to stop putting their first brainstormed draft of their rape/pedophile/(insert nasty subject) jokes on Twitter. It's stupid. Lots of commedians are going to run through some gross stuff trying to get a good edgy joke. They don't need to make every one of those thoughts public statements available to a billion people.As an adult that can separate reality from fiction, we can make a joke about anything really. It just has to be a good, well written one.
Agreed. Dark Comedy ain't goin' away.You're overreacting to people overreacting from a series of manufactured overreactions.
It'll never go away fully.
It's all about context. If you are a comedian known for being edgy and dark and you do it on stage that's one thing, but posting shit like that on Twitter or other social media is just fucking stupid.
This.
Well twitter is just another channel. If you are telling a joke it's a joke no matter if you are on a stand-up stage, twitter or a tv-show.
It is the natural lifecycle of comedy. As values change certain things stop being funny. *See: jokes around gay people, transgender people and AIDS
Nah. Like, it's still a joke, sure, but delivery is key. Some jokes are better told than written, and vice versa.
Plus, 'the medium is the message' and all that; not all jokes work if they're limited to 140 characters or whatever.
What are you arguing exactly? That twitter is a different kind of medium than other mediums? Because it is and requires different kind of expression than shows and skits.
What are you arguing exactly? That twitter is a different kind of medium than other mediums? Because it is and requires different kind of expression than shows and skits.
If you are telling a joke it's a joke no matter if you are on a stand-up stage, twitter or a tv-show.
I didn't mean it's the exact same joke. It's not even possible due to the differences in mediums.
Ah, okay. Just to clarify, I'm sort of supporting the poster you replied to.
Context does matter when telling a joke and an audience is a kind of context too. If Bozo the Clown tells dead baby jokes at little Timmy's 5th birthday party, it isn't going to go down nearly as well as maybe his R-Rated HBO special would, and that should be expected on the part of the teller.
That is the skill and expertise of the comedian. But even a bad joke is still a joke is my point.
I'd say it's more self-awareness than skill, but I see your point.
And yeah, I agree with the last part. That point didn't come across in your original post.
It's generational. Your kids will get annoyed they can't make certain jokes and they will rebel. The kids after that will think their parents are disgusting and clean shit up. The cycle repeats....
I don't know how I should've phrased it, I said a joke is a joke no matter the medium. I didn't say a joke is the same joke no matter the medium.