No, dark humor won't go anywhere. If anything, it will evolve to be less about shitting on marginalized groups
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Is dark comedy going to go away now??
- Thread starter Thewonandonly
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I actually didn't realize he had Jewish heritage. And you're right, he might have some more leeway--but it seems like something with a very narrow line while this is going on.
Basically. Imo, people need to stop putting their first brainstormed draft of their rape/pedophile/(insert nasty subject) jokes on Twitter. It's stupid. Lots of commedians are going to run through some gross stuff trying to get a good edgy joke. They don't need to make every one of those thoughts public statements available to a billion people.
And people who aren't commedians really shouldn't be doing that.
Dark comedy is not going anywhere. People will just stick to attempting to sanitize for no reason probably due to a personal connection from the subject matter or because of projection. Stuff like this isn't new. The bad thing about most of the recent outcry was that it was centered on extremely old jokes targeted by crazy people. Disney's response is terrible, everyone knows that except people who are petty. The only big change will probably be a more curated social media, which will only serve to create distance from fans of media and their creators.
It's generational. Your kids will get annoyed they can't make certain jokes and they will rebel. The kids after that will think their parents are disgusting and clean shit up. The cycle repeats....
No op, it won't go away. It'll just be a dirty little secret one enjoys on one's own, in the company of a ciggie and a bottle of bourbon.
No, and it hasn't really been affected. Dark comedy is simply stuff that takes an unflinching view at the depressing parts of life and/or has very macabre/difficult-to-deal-with themes. For example, this is dark comedy:
If you're talking about comedy that is at the expense of minority groups, such as old Eddie Murphy routines, yes that's going to go away now. As it should.
If you're talking about comedy that is at the expense of minority groups, such as old Eddie Murphy routines, yes that's going to go away now. As it should.
No.
Some younger posters who are really caught up in a social media movement might think this heralds the end, but people will always make jokes about dark subjects such as rape. It's anti-intellectual to try and censor or ban this stuff. The Implication in Sunny is technically a rape joke. The context and intent are important.
It isn't a good idea to attempt these jokes on social media if you don't understand how to structure and deliver a good joke. Or if your employer might find them.
Some younger posters who are really caught up in a social media movement might think this heralds the end, but people will always make jokes about dark subjects such as rape. It's anti-intellectual to try and censor or ban this stuff. The Implication in Sunny is technically a rape joke. The context and intent are important.
It isn't a good idea to attempt these jokes on social media if you don't understand how to structure and deliver a good joke. Or if your employer might find them.
Not completely, there will always be people who don't give a fuck. It might get a little less popular for a while then make a comeback down the line.
Well twitter is just another channel. If you are telling a joke it's a joke no matter if you are on a stand-up stage, twitter or a tv-show.
Fuck no. If anything it will be more funny seeing as how easy it is to mess with people's sensibilities. The pearls are being clutched so tensely nowadays getting people to crush them to dust isn't very difficult and is extremely amusing. If everyone were on board with dark humor it would lose something. So continue the futile effort of dictating what others ought to find funny neo-puritans. You make the world hilarious.
Nah.
Comedian become more careful in writing their craft and be more selective in their audience, meaning they probably won't make dark joke in a medium thay could easily be twisted (twitter).
Less edgy joke, more smart dark comedy
Comedian become more careful in writing their craft and be more selective in their audience, meaning they probably won't make dark joke in a medium thay could easily be twisted (twitter).
Less edgy joke, more smart dark comedy
Nah. Like, it's still a joke, sure, but delivery is key. Some jokes are better told than written, and vice versa.
Plus, 'the medium is the message' and all that; not all jokes work if they're limited to 140 characters or whatever.
What are you arguing exactly? That twitter is a different kind of medium than other mediums? Because it is and requires different kind of expression than shows and skits.
I think they're saying that different mediums puts your material in a different context, or at least changes its interpretation. You can do certain things on stage that you can't via text. You can do certain things in a sitcom single camera format that feels off multi camera. Same with the different kinds of social media. Someone on stage delivering a set of jokes is fundementfund different if they transcribed that all to their twitter twitter account.
I'm disputing this:
Context (and a medium is a kind of context) is important to making a joke work.
I didn't mean it's the exact same joke. It's not even possible due to the differences in mediums.
Ah, okay. Just to clarify, I'm sort of supporting the poster you replied to.
Context does matter when telling a joke and an audience is a kind of context too. If Bozo the Clown tells dead baby jokes at little Timmy's 5th birthday party, it isn't going to go down nearly as well as maybe his R-Rated HBO special would, and that should be expected on the part of the teller.
That is the skill and expertise of the comedian. But even a bad joke is still a joke is my point.
I'd say it's more self-awareness than skill, but I see your point.
And yeah, I agree with the last part. That point didn't come across in your original post.
I don't know how I should've phrased it, I said a joke is a joke no matter the medium. I didn't say a joke is the same joke no matter the medium.
That sounds good and philosophical on paper, but it's actually not really true. Gen X didn't really try to clean up after the Boomers, and Millennials didn't really try to clean up after Gen X. If you actually look at the core values, socially speaking, it's been a pretty clear line of progressiveness (even if it's not what it should be, but alas). Gen Z, as of now, is really the only generation in like 3-4 generations that seem more socially conservative that the geneation before, though there still too young to tell for sure.
What we see from Millennials isn't really rebellion or cleaning up of Gen X, it's more just a natural social progression that was started by a small group of the Boomers and has managed to carry on.
Because you didn't mention the good/bad dichotomy (which you said is your point) as you did in later posts, it came across to me as if you were solely disputing his point that context matters (which it does, it affects the joke and reception to it, which in turn affects whether it is perceived as good or bad).
It's all good, I getcha now.