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Prelude

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Hopefully it doesn't take too long for the next Kiwamis on PC. I never played 2 and I'd like to replay 3. Okinawa is great, don't @ me.
 

mudai

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It's been a while since I last played 3 (that butchered Western version when it originall came out) so I'm very much looking forward to playing it again. Hopefully it won't take too long for the remaster to come out in English. Very excited for the Yakuza 4 HD remaster as well. As for 5: I'll likely grab it, but I'll probably not play it for a while. It's still too fresh in my memory and I don't feel like going through all of the game again, especially since I would have to force myself to ignore all the side-content (because there's a ton of it), which I normally can't when playing a Yakuza game (for example I try to finish all substories before finishing the main plot).

Once again I have to say: It's a really good time to be a Yakuza fan.
 

shadowman16

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At that point just port Kenzan and the PS3 remasters of 1 and 2 as well. Just chuck everything Yakuza on the PSP. And the PSP games... (I'd seriously love if they did this!)

Certainly a nice position to be in.
 

Romain

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You should start seeing Yakuza 0 PC reviews pop up. The embargo was lifted at 4 pm this afternoon (in France at least). It's a pretty great port.

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Seeing those Xbox buttons in a Yakuza game is so weird!
 
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Tizoc

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If I were to rank a Yakuza game as my least favourite or weakest in the series, it'd be Yakuza 1 and its Kiwami remake.
Really the first game is pretty weak and I'm just glad that its Yakuza theme is what let it get a far superior sequel that eventually lead to all this Kiryu goodness we are now bearing witness to among other things.

Yakuza 3 is what got me into the series so I have a soft spot for it, and I personally like Dead Souls for being a run n' gun shooter+Majima Goro being awesome in it.

What my favourite FAVOURITE Yakuza game is, I can't tell unless I end up replaying the series someday.
 

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If I were to rank a Yakuza game as my least favourite or weakest in the series, it'd be Yakuza 1 and its Kiwami remake.
Really the first game is pretty weak and I'm just glad that its Yakuza theme is what let it get a far superior sequel that eventually lead to all this Kiryu goodness we are now bearing witness to among other things.

Yakuza 3 is what got me into the series so I have a soft spot for it, and I personally like Dead Souls for being a run n' gun shooter+Majima Goro being awesome in it.

What my favourite FAVOURITE Yakuza game is, I can't tell unless I end up replaying the series someday.
Me too... Dead Souls is dope.
 

shadowman16

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So, spent 1 hour + with the demo of Yakuza 3. Here are my thoughts so far...

First off, my one complaint. Many of the cutscenes now run at 60 FPS instead of 30 FPS. Which is great, if a little odd at the moment as I've only ever been used to 30 FPS cutscenes. Once in a while, the frame rate in the cutscenes will drop for a brief second. If your sensitive to these things you'll notice. But I honestly dont really care that much, its such a minor gripe that its barely worth mentioning...

The good stuff?
- First off, the frame rate. In gameplay, it seems locked to 60FPS. Never wavering. This makes exploration smooth, and combat blissful due to how insanely smooth it feels. Its so damn nice.
- Second, the game has polished up nicely in terms of most textures. Its no looker like 0 let alone the new games but the textures certainly have benefited from the resolution leap.
- NPC Density is increased over the PS3 one. You have tons of NPCs everywhere you walk which is cool.
- Load times are indeed insanely fast, blink and you'll miss the load screen most of the time. Its not seemless, but its way better than on the PS3.
- Haruka animations as she watches you play the crane game are excellent. These aren't new, I just wanted to make note of them as they really cracked me up

Otherwise its the same old Yakuza 3 as I know and love it. Its just so nice that it gets a remaster to fix most of the rough edges the game has, I really enjoyed my time with the demo, and no doubt will be spending 10's of hours in the full game playing it. And this definitely bodes well for the upcoming ports of 4 and 5 which are even better graphically/gameplay wise. 5 especially should look almost comparable to 0/Kiwami in terms of visuals (and please, please fix the oil slick water in the intro of 5!)
 

Opa-Pa

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Hnnng, I need 60FPS Yakuza 3 so bad. I hope it comes westward early next year.
 

shadowman16

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I also think that trailer kinda does a poor job of showing the strengths of the specific character that's being focused on.

Darn straight, I don't like it since
they have one seen of Karou as a badass, several scenes of her and Kiryu on their "date" and then some where she is getting emotional. Its out of wack to her character, where's she's a badass most of the time, and only gets emotional and lets her hair down briefly. Just my take on things
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hlhbk

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Man I am so torn. I am playing this series for the first time. I have played 0 and Kiwami on ps4 but mainly skipped the side quests. Should I get them on pc and play everything?

Also I am debating on canceling my kiwami 2 preorder cause I weather play these on pc. Any idea if the rest of the series will come to pc?
 

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gachapin hey dude I finally found a copy of fist of the north star manga!!!!!

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Just rando found this in the wild at my local comic store. Had a total fanboy moment too xD

Soooo excited to finally get to read the manga after loving the anime for such a long time. It's always been such a crying shame they've never done the entire thing in the west :/

Hopefully with Lost Paradise it renews enough interest in the series to finally bring it to the English speaking world in its entirety, as I would pay utterly stupid amounts of money for a complete set >.<
 

shadowman16

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Looking good so far. Probably be a while before I'll be able to play the game on my PC at full speed but its nice to see that English Kenzan can one day be a real thing.
 
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So I just finished my journey of preparing for Yakuza 6 by playing 0, Kiwami, 2, 3, 4, and 5 for the first time. And boy did it really feel like a journey. Played 0 last year and it instantly became one of my favorite games of all time. Then starting at the beginning of this year played Kiwami, 2 (emulated), and 3/4/5 on my launch PS3 which some how miraculously still works.

Just rolled credits on 5, and although it has some obvious flaws like an overly long and convoluted story (even by Yakuza standards), it was still one of my favorites. The writing, performances, and production value felt really close to 0, loved the side stories, and was totally surprised in a good way at one of the playable characters.

Probably going to take a a couple days/week break and then finish this thing with 6. Can't wait!

And in case anyone cares, my ranking right now would probably be: 0, 5, Kiwami, 2*, 3, 4 (*I really liked the story of 2, but it being a PS2 game held it back for me. Good chance it could reach #2 with Kiwami 2). But I still love them all!
 

Virtua Sanus

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Man I am so torn. I am playing this series for the first time. I have played 0 and Kiwami on ps4 but mainly skipped the side quests. Should I get them on pc and play everything?

Also I am debating on canceling my kiwami 2 preorder cause I weather play these on pc. Any idea if the rest of the series will come to pc?
The side content is personally my favorite aspect of every game in the series, so I would say yes.

As for the future games coming to PC, I think Kiwami being announced the same day as 0 was SEGA's way of saying they intend to bring more of the series to PC regardless of sales. Yakuza 0 is constantly in top seller lists on Steam so I think we absolutely will be seeing the games on PC released alongside the PlayStation 4 versions of not just 6 and Kiwami 2, but the remasters of 3, 4 and 5. Shin Yakuza will probably arrive day and date on PC as the English PlayStation 4 version too I imagine.

The Fist of the North Star game might not be as lucky because that is not SEGA's IP and there could be awkward restrictions, but I could also see that arriving before Kiwami 2. We probably will not be waiting too long to find out about that one if it does happen.
 

Virtua Sanus

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It can become quite repetitive especially if you want to go for the platinum trophy. The cut scenes and side quests are making Dead souls worth it though. DS also made me like Ryuji Goda. It's sad he won't be in future Yakuza games.
I think he will be in more spinoff games like he was with Ishin. He is way too popular to be forgotten entirely. His VA was also the same for Big Bo in the Japanese dub of Binary Domain, so I think Ryu ga Gotoku Studio has a fondness for him.
 

Modest_Modsoul

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It can become quite repetitive especially if you want to go for the platinum trophy.

It's becoming repetitive when you realize that Dead Souls difficulty don't use previous save data with full weapons & experience.

I was trying to 100% on normal difficulty, including beating the secret boss & got the satellite weapon, and find I can't carry these on the hardest difficulty...

I shelved the game for almost a year when I finally in the mood to play again & got my Platinum.
 

raketenrolf

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Is Kiwami (1) considered the worst Yakuza game? I sometimes have to force myself to play it because I am at a point in the story were barely anything interesting happens right now. The beginning was interesting even though I remembered almost everything from the PS2 version back then. Now I know why my brain filtered out these parts of the game I am in right now.

Kiryu just told Haruka that her Mom's dead after a fight at the Stardust. Now I have to babysit and go to the hidden gambling spot.

Need to take a break from this game again it seems. Only had to take breaks from 0 because I burned myself out by playing minigames/sidestuff literally for days.
 

lucebuce

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Yeah, I'd definitely rate Y1 and even Kiwami 1 on the lowest end of the Yakuza-goodness scale. The story is just too basic for this day and age, and Kiwami 1 fixed a lot of stuff but added some new problems (the Majima anywhere system gets annoying fast)
 

Virtua Sanus

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Yakuza 1 has aged really poorly and was built in a way where you can tell that they did not know where the franchise should go yet. Kiwami is much the same game in a somewhat cheap modern coat of paint and a worse soundtrack than the original. It shares a huge amount of the issues that the original game had and that really should not be the case. It is still absolutely worth playing through, but it is a pretty poor followup to 0.

It is worth noting that Yakuza 2 is generally seen as one of the best in the series by fans, so I hope anyone disappointed by Kiwami does not drop the series.
 

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Kiwami is best viewed through the lense of an expansion pack to 0, really. It acts less as a full on remake and more of an extended epilogue to Kiryu's side of the story in 0. Really I think 0+K are effectively together the "new" first Yakuza game.
 

shadowman16

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Yakuza 1/Kiwami isn't a bad game. Its just aged. It has its low periods (Takashi the jerk is a filler chapter that fleshes out Florist and Date's characters but its the low point for me). As for Haruka and gambling, that bit cracked me up personally, I loved how "lucky" she was. Story might be simpler than later games, but for me the characters used in the story are still top tier - Shimano, Kazama, Hayashi (I'm his number 1 fan), Shindo etc. Only one I don't like is the penultimate boss, and you'll know why when you get there. I personally love the first game, but I guess that's because I played it at launch so I have more nostalgia? for it, as my most wanted game for ages was a remake of the game that fixed the combat and added more content, which is exactly what Kiwami was. Then my most wanted game was a remaster of 3 to fix the resolution (and hey, that's going to be amazing based on the demo!). Time to get wishing real hard for that Kenzan remaster next year...

In prep for Yakuza 0 PC launch I wonder if all difficulty levels are unlocked or if one is forced to do easy/normal?
Hard mode is always unlocked from the off in almost all Yakuza games, its only the very old Yakuza (PS2?) games where this is not the case. As for EX Hard. Nope. It'll be locked, same as always.
 

sibarraz

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So, with 2 trophies to unlock, today I Will platinum Yakuza 6, my first game on the series were I Will try yo achieve this. This was the first time that I completed all the substories in the game and also my first time fighting Amon, about that fight I have to say, is fucking awful.

Like, I don't know who thought that making a one hit attack in a game that lack defensive options was a good idea. That drone suicide attack must be the dumbest shit that I had ever seen in a Yakuza game. The explosión ratio at times is way bigger than it looks, and at times the drones explode without any warning (I hear a beep sometimes, but other times I died out of nowhere) Overall I was enjoying the combat system in Yakuza 6, as barebones as it was, I felt that there was a need to master some techniques like parrys and other things if you wanted to beat the bosses in a legit way (unlike zero and kiwami where you could just abuse the broken style of the time) but this fight reinforced my belief that overall the combat in yakuza isn't good, since at times they balance it in very odd ways. I know that is posible to beat each boss without taking any damage, but in this kind of game, at least for me, isn't a fun game to master the combat mechanics, since overall the fights are not that entertaining

Are all the amon fights like this?
 

shadowman16

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Amon in 6 is easy. When the drones all blow up, just go into ultra heat mode. If you've fully leveled up (and honestly, if your going into an Amon fight not fully leveled up, why?!) you'll lose all your health but ultra heat mode keeps you alive. Heal via healing items and then beat him. Tiger drop is a super easy move to land against him in 6 as well. The drone 1 hit kill is tricky the first time, but once you realise what he's doing he becomes a pushover.

And yeah, every Amon is supposed to be cheap in one way or another until you figure out how to defeat him. Its basically his "thing" as the optional boss for every game. For example, in Yakuza 1 (the PS2 version) his second phase is insane due to grenade spam and the blast radius, so you use a light saber to sun lock him into death), for 2 and 4?... well he's easy in those. In 5 and 0 you have to abuse red heat mode and invincibility items the game gives you during the fight, which makes both fights "easy" in theory.

The only Amon I have a dislike of in the series is his penultimate Dead Souls encounter. You have a level with no checkpoints that's approx 90 mins in length, and Amon can kill you in 1-2 hits. So mess up and say bye bye to time and progress. However you can kill him in about 3 hits also so its basically one ultra tense battle. Hilariously when you fight him again in DS he's a pushover because the fight doesn't change and you can take him out quick, and you don't have a long dungeon to wade through.
 

lucebuce

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Are all the amon fights like this?
Y6's is a bit on the bad end because it feels like there's not so much "figuring out" the techniques involved as much as just abusing some of the systems as well as some dumbluck.

Though yes, they're all absolute BS compared to all other bosses. Include things like helicopters dropping bombs, huge insta kill laser cannons, attacks with infinite armour, unblockable grabs and many other things.
 

sibarraz

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Yay, the pic of the platinum trophy is beautiful

By the way, the clan creator trophy was a drag, I was just posting in this fórum and watching some songs while I was farming it, that being said, thanks to that I got a lot of money and orange/purple exp, so after that maxing out the clan carácter and kiryu stats was relatively quick
 

MechaX

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I finished 6 and... man...

I'm okay with it at the end of the day, but goddamn, Kiryu made the most Kiryu-like decision in the entire series with that one. But I am 100% betting that in Shin Yakuza/Yakuza 7 or whatever, the Tojo Clan will still manage to fuck things up, and Kiryu will still come back to solve problems with his fists, even if he isn't the main character. I'm predicting that Ichiban will be the Apollo Justice to Kiryu's Phoenix Wright at the end of the day, especially since the team couldn't 100% stick with Kiryu actually dying.

I also kinda feel for Daigo, too. Kiryu has spent the entire series trying to run from his problems, but Daigo is trying to stick with things despite how Kiryu not only was the one who dragged him into this shit begin with, but Daigo is probably one of the longest running chairmen of the Tojo Clan despite the ridiculous amount of betrayals.

But I did play the Kiwami 2 demo and... yeah, this dude who I am assuming is the primary antagonist is pretty legit.
 

lucebuce

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I finished 6 and... man...

I'm okay with it at the end of the day, but goddamn, Kiryu made the most Kiryu-like decision in the entire series with that one. But I am 100% betting that in Shin Yakuza/Yakuza 7 or whatever, the Tojo Clan will still manage to fuck things up, and Kiryu will still come back to solve problems with his fists, even if he isn't the main character. I'm predicting that Ichiban will be the Apollo Justice to Kiryu's Phoenix Wright at the end of the day, especially since the team couldn't 100% stick with Kiryu actually dying.

They've already set up the prologue for Shin Yakuza and don't worry. The Tojo Clan fucked up royally and is no longer in control of Kamorucho. Ichiban's story is based partially on finding out what role his mentor had in the fucking up of the Tojo Clan. I personally doubt Kiryu's gonna show up again. At least not in this game, maybe in a sequel to it down the line.

And yes, Ryuji Goda is fucking legit.
 

sibarraz

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They've already set up the prologue for Shin Yakuza and don't worry. The Tojo Clan fucked up royally and is no longer in control of Kamorucho. Ichiban's story is based partially on finding out what role his mentor had in the fucking up of the Tojo Clan. I personally doubt Kiryu's gonna show up again. At least not in this game, maybe in a sequel to it down the line.

And yes, Ryuji Goda is fucking legit.

Where could I find the details of that? or this Will appear in Shin?
 

sibarraz

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I'm sorry, I've never heard that phrase before :d

If it's in the video I linked, could you post the timestamp when it's said? Maybe some context will help me understand.

Across the 1-2 minutes stamp, when the narrator explain the kind of people who raised Kasuga

Btw, I went from not giving a crap for the new protagonist to getting full on board with him in only 15 minutes