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Watching Terminator 2 in 2018 and Goddamn it is still an action film masterpiece
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You literally deserve a ban for this. It's shit posting of the highest order.
Anyway, favourite movie of all time. Best action movie of all time. Still holds up incredible well. It's a masterpiece from start to finish.
Getting to see it in the cinema last year was a great experience, i've been wearing out Blu rays, DVDs and VHS of it for most of my life (28).
That is true but I really love the dark and gritty atmosphere in T1.
I consider both movies masterpiece and I love them both equally *shrugs*
This video just highlights how good Cameron is at creating setups and payoffs at even a micro, subconscious level.
My older brother was a young film snob at the time, but attached to my cousin's hip.
Terminator 2 came out around the same week as Problem Child 2. I remember because my brother went to see Problem Child 2 with my aunt and cousin and I went to see T2 with my uncle. I was 10 years old.
Imagine getting together after the movie and being asked so how was the film? How do you adequately describe that you just saw one of the greatest films that will ever be made? The way I describe the film today and that experience is that I saw a movie that was made in the future. It obliterated every other film that existed at the time.
To this day, I hold this moment over his head.
Terminator 2 came out around the same week as Problem Child 2. I remember because my brother went to see Problem Child 2 with my aunt and cousin and I went to see T2 with my uncle. I was 10 years old.
Imagine getting together after the movie and being asked so how was the film? How do you adequately describe that you just saw one of the greatest films that will ever be made? The way I describe the film today and that experience is that I saw a movie that was made in the future. It obliterated every other film that existed at the time.
To this day, I hold this moment over his head.
Timeless masterclass. Fury Road is the only film since that comes close.
T2 is better.
T2 is better.
Same here. The first is a great sci-fi thriller. The second is a great sci-fi action movie. Two different genres that each film nails.
One of the best movies of all time and also the teaser trailers is still to this day the Best teaser i've ever seen for a movie.
I think i saw that teaser when i watched Total Recall and i went nuts with hype.
I think i saw that teaser when i watched Total Recall and i went nuts with hype.
And then Bad to the Bone plays right after, destroying the tension the movie just built up in the previous scene.
Sorry, its just a nitpick of mine with this movie. I grew up with it, I love it. However, Bad to the Bone is an awful choice of music right after the brutality that was shown, should have been this to really play up the idea that he's the one after John:
The Skynet Edition on Blu Ray has been available for a couple years now. It has some major DNR issues that upset some people, but it does have all 3 versions (theatrical/Directors Cut/DC with alternate "happy ending") of the movie so that's the definitive release.
I believe most of the complaints around the 4K version are due to it only having the theatrical version.
It's a great movie but there is a major plot hole right at the beginning (kind of like in BTTF2) but if you can get over that it's cool. I still like the first one better.
I think its pretty easy to realize early on that the T1000 is a bad guy. Hell as a kid I'd never seen the trailers before seeing the movie and I picked up on it after his introduction scene. He exudes the same exact aura as Arnie, has many of the same mannerisms and in general is depicted as cold, calculating and in no way overtly positive or heroic or anything that would make you think he's there to help.
T2 is an excellent movie start to finish and I 100% agree with the OP.
Is it better than Infinity War? Oh hell yeah, it's not even close.
Is it better than Infinity War? Oh hell yeah, it's not even close.
As others have mentioned, I would have loved to have seen this film without knowing the "twist". Would have destroyed my young mind in the best way.
Unfortunately, there are dozens of PG featureless on TV at the time that completely ruined it. And, of course, I watched as many of those as I could.
Not an action film though...
Unfortunately, there are dozens of PG featureless on TV at the time that completely ruined it. And, of course, I watched as many of those as I could.
Not an action film though...
This is fascinating, so many subtleties I never picked up on. Thanks for sharing.
T1 > T2
T1's visuals haven't aged well but that doesn't bring down the movie as much as T2's cheese. Every interaction between the T-800 and voice cracking John Connor makes me cringe.
T1's visuals haven't aged well but that doesn't bring down the movie as much as T2's cheese. Every interaction between the T-800 and voice cracking John Connor makes me cringe.
I've seen it. It's a milquetoast action sequence with some pretty CGI lights, some grimacing faces and little more. I generally like MCU movies but they're action is in no way on tier of Terminator, Mad Max, Raiders films for physicality, choreography and direction. Top tier Bond/Bourne, etc action thrillers also top them for actual action scenes. Heck the top tier action scenes in more serious fare like French Connection tops them.
EDIT: heck I feel bad not mentioning Die Hard, etc. either. For action aficionados few MCU scenes even make the long list.
I'm just gonna ignore that insane rambling about Infinity War.
But, yeah, this is still my favorite movie of all time. Linda Hamilton's performance -- her display of strength in this film, held high significance for me as a child, a transformation from the first film that has always stuck with me all these years later.
The movie was slightly before my time, so I can only imagine what it must have been like for fans of the first film to have absolutely everything inverted so masterfully back in 1991. People's minds must have been blown to absolute bits.
But, yeah, this is still my favorite movie of all time. Linda Hamilton's performance -- her display of strength in this film, held high significance for me as a child, a transformation from the first film that has always stuck with me all these years later.
The movie was slightly before my time, so I can only imagine what it must have been like for fans of the first film to have absolutely everything inverted so masterfully back in 1991. People's minds must have been blown to absolute bits.
I agree with this. Though it wasn't as much John Connor as I thought T2 felt neutered. T1 felt more "real" with Schwarzenegger just wasting people and stacking bodies VS the kind of unrealistic PG-13 violence (despite being R) where they actually had to repeat throughout that - NO - The Terminator is NOT killing anyone with this minigun and grenade launcher.
Yeap some of the shit they pulled like the helicopter going under the bridge is mindblowing, because it's real and your mind knows its real. My girlfriend watched this a few months back for the first time ever and she said it was better than all the action movies made nowadays.
T2 is an action masterpiece but T1 1) quite masterfully combines a pretty high concept sci-fi story with a slasher movie/action-horror thriller and 2) has such taut lean pacing and pervasive sense of dread through how relentlessly brutal the Terminator is and how terrified our protagonists are of it. If T2 was the Fury Road of its time, then Terminator was the Upgrade of its time, clever low-budget sci-fi action horror with a lot of ambition
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I've only ever seen the special edition version of T2 so I can't imagine it without the T-1000 glitches or the scene where they remove the chip from Arnold's head
Same with Aliens. I grew up watching the extended version on DVD so I can't imagine it without the Ripley's daughter scene or the sentry guns
Same with Aliens. I grew up watching the extended version on DVD so I can't imagine it without the Ripley's daughter scene or the sentry guns
At the prince Charles cinema in London they show arnie all nighters, they show 5 films back to back, they switch out the first 4 and mess around with themes and fun stuff.
But...
They always end on terminator 2. It's the perfect action film and great good bye to the coolest character in a action film ever!
But...
They always end on terminator 2. It's the perfect action film and great good bye to the coolest character in a action film ever!