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Dragon Quest composer Koichi Sugiyama isn't happy just being a war crime denier, is anti-LGBT too!
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I meant more. Mistake in typing - I'm also tired lol. I'll edit it.
Very, very common. They don't teach their children shit about their wartime atrocities. The Japanese children are made very aware of the atomic bombs, every textbook I saw had a story about the incident at some point, but they aren't given a whole lot of context. Basically, they are taught that war is bad and they leave it there. So there is a considerable amount of ignorance on the subject. A lot of people believe it is more hazy and ambiguous than it actually is. It doesn't fucking help that their Prime Minister is a denier (or at least has been, there was a half-hearted apology at some point). It is also complicated by their previous emperor having been involved on some level with the atrocities (and pardoned for diplomatic reasons).
Well, Kotaku picked it up with a shout-out to duckroll:
https://kotaku.com/politician-made-anti-lgbtq-comments-on-dragon-quest-com-1827885043
It focuses on Mio Sugita though, but Sugiyama is mentioned
https://kotaku.com/politician-made-anti-lgbtq-comments-on-dragon-quest-com-1827885043
It focuses on Mio Sugita though, but Sugiyama is mentioned
What is more interesting than our responses is those of the DQ fans in Japan.
What do they think about this guy?
Do they even care?
What do they think about this guy?
Do they even care?
I asked my brother who lives in Japan and it's not really something the Japanese care about. His opinions horrible as they are, are known for ages. He's still considered a living legend or The Big Boss of music
Thanks for this. The shit espoused by those people infuriates me. I'm glad someone is covering it.
Did you expect Japan to be a paradise? They're as fucked up as every other country, pretty high on the list overall too if I had to take a guess.
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Yeah, was a good read and I don't know if Brian Ashcraft has an account here, but thanks. And Sugiyama already looks like the fucking cryptkeeper, are we sure he isn't dead already?
I saw the article on Facebook, their Facebook page attracts some of the worst gamers like flies. I don't get it, it's not even anonymous either and people still share their bigotry. Thanks Kotaku for posting something.
Very glad this is receiving mainstream attention. But he should have asked SE for comment like any real journalist should if a company's employee/longtime contractor does something like this.
I follow Naughty Dog on FB, and man, the outrage they and also Sony received when they changed their logo in June, absolutely disgusting. Fortunately there are also a lot of ppl dunking on these folks in the comments, but still. Just horrible, horrible people.
Edit: Almost forgot to mention, it's 2018, one thing they learned is that it's apparently okay these days to be vocal about that shit. I learned that the hard way last christmas with my brother-in-law, let's keep it brief and just say that meeting around that time won't be a tradition anymore.
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That's one way to waste your burner account. Now go post about how you owned resetera at one of the other shitholes you frequent.
The "but his music is great!" argument: maybe the argument kind of meant something back in the days of the seminal DQVIII (if you're a person who advocates for a separation of the art from the artist). However his newer work sounds like absolute shit both in terms of composition and quality. It doesn't seem, to me, like there's much talent left for people to try to rationalize support for.
To be fair to Brian, I learned at the AV Club that the headlines are written by different people, and since they are owned both by Univision (hopefully will change soon, at least with AV Club) and both use fucking Kinja, I think this applies to Kotaku as well...?
Canceling my CE preorder. Only partly because of this but also just a ton of stuff coming out in the weeks around it.
Oh yes I saw that as well. I've never saw so many people quick to call others snowflakes so upset at a rainbow before.
Any company changing their icons to rainbows got a plethora of abuse.
I'm sorry about your brother-in-law. :(
Probably doing the same thing since it give the orchestra soundtrack... and we all know where most of the money goes....
Thank you, that's very nice of you. Will suck to not see all my sisters from now on, my mother called me the next day and told me that we won't be doing it anymore, she also had it with that shit, so I'll just visit her this christmas.
When I read all this posts telling people to be better than Sugiyama my mind reminded me of that thread in Off Topic where a poster introduced the concept of "Brogressive" to many of us: people who think they are progressive somehow but lack empathy for minorities.
"This dude is using his influence and money to push for his war crimes denial and anti-LGBT agendas! I wish nature do it's job sooner, the world doesn't need people like him"
"Yes, he's a horrible person (for denying the crimes his country committed when they were at war with us), but can't you just be better and ignore him?"
"This dude is using his influence and money to push for his war crimes denial and anti-LGBT agendas! I wish nature do it's job sooner, the world doesn't need people like him"
"Yes, he's a horrible person (for denying the crimes his country committed when they were at war with us), but can't you just be better and ignore him?"
You think war crime denial and laughing at LGBT suicide is the same as being a-okay with time doing it's job to a garbage person.
No, you're not the better person.
Unfortunately for you, you aren't.
Stop acting like we are here planning who will attack him and blow his brains out with a shotgun. "I can't wait until he's dead" is a perfectly fine reaction to hateful shitstains of humanity who laugh at minorities suffering.
Absolutely no empathy for their close ones either. If they love and support such a monster of a human being, fuck them too.
Glad to see it getting some attention at least. It's still shocking how despite this stuff being tackled quickly when it happens in the west, with a Japanese personality everyone just clams up.
If a Naughty Dog composer showed up on Fox News regularly as a commentator laughing at kids in cages, how would that go down?
Wow. Just like the other place I feel afraid of saying anything here now. I'm actually pissed off tho because people put words in my mouth. I did not set out to equalize anything. Obviously this dude is a horrible human being but two wrongs don't make things right and me saying this does not automatically mean that I'm putting those wishing for his death on the same level. Geez!
Pleased to see Kotaku caring enough to put in the work.
Perhaps people find it easier to rationalise and distance themselves from personalities' problematic sides when there's a language and cultural barrier in place. Can't help but feel that Neil Druckmann couldn't get away with even a tenth of the things Hideo Kojima's been up to without getting calls for his resignation.
You rolled in a very serious thread to post a lazy ass false equivalency saying that both sides have hate. In a thread where one side is denying war crimes and hates LGBT people. You put more effort into this post complaining about your ban than you did your initial post. Maybe next time put some effort and time in when posting about serious issues, and you wouldn't run into problems.
It's probably because it's more easier to do something about a western person in a west media than the contrary. It's why many things with japanese companies don't go anywhere most of the times. And they can't interfere unlike here as well since it's happening in Japan where they don't have influence.
Also, if a Pedophile like Kenshin author did the same in the west, he wouldn't be back on his job on few months later without any punishment by the jury but here we are with the actual reality where the contrary happened.
I mean, we're allowed to think that something is great even if the person is a shit. We're not talking about objectivity but subjectivity as well when saying things like that.
Maybe you should be afraid to post here if your first thought in coming off a 5-day ban is "I should continue wagging my finger at people who are expressing anger and frustrating towards an evil, despicable man." Maybe instead of stewing in your own saltiness for those five days, you should have asked yourself why it makes you more upset that people are angry at Sugiyama than you are with Sugiyama himself.
You seriously just bumped a thread about a man who laughs at the idea of LGBT people committing suicide to whine about how unfair you think your temp ban on a gaming forum was?
Christ. Like, you seriously need to step back and get a new perspective because your current one is really skewed.
Japan can be weird sometimes. Nobody cares about men like Sugiyama but the career of Hiroki Narimiya is over because he might have used soft drugs. It's frustrating but there's nothing you can do about it.
Well, all I can hope is that he dies and his replacement isn't a complete cunt. I'm not expecting anything out of SE other than a 'please understand' and a bow.
On top of my suggestions, Takayuki Hattori could very well replace Sugiyama for the soundtrack of Dragon Quest. His music is excellent and he also worked with his father on Final Fantasy compositions. Japan isn't lacking skilled composers who could boot Sugiyama out of this earth
You made a "both sides are hateful" post in a thread about an old dude laughing at the idea of LGBT people killing themselves while the other side wants the world to be a better place without a bigot like him.
What the fuck were you expecting?
I think Sugiyama is a fantastic composer... but Japan is not lacking in fantastic composers. Almost all of them would surely be less shitty than Sugiyama. Square won't replace him, but they definitely should.
We should be thinking more of the true victims in this situation,
some nerds that post on a gaming board
Even that is asking too much. I can see them ignoring this and hoping people will forget. I mean, most don't really care anyway and will buy the games he is working on.
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