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Jotakori

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,181
Another day, another fail at trying to beat the end game boss lol. Something about this boss, man, it just isn't clicking for me like all the others have.
I ended up giving in and looking up some strategy tips - which definitely helped for the first half - but I don't quite have it down yet for the second. I was doing okay but then it broke all my buffs and augmented its attack and I just couldn't recover. Got totally slaughtered at that point. Honestly the most frustrating part of it all is just how gd long the whole process takes. I really really wish they had included a save or some sort of check point along the way. And I'm about 99% certain whatever post-boss scene they might have isn't gonna be worth it anymore at this point for all the dang time and struggle it's taken me lol. But, well, now beating it is just a matter of pride so I gotta.
Hopefully tomorrow will be more successful.
 

Phonzo

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,817
Another day, another fail at trying to beat the end game boss lol. Something about this boss, man, it just isn't clicking for me like all the others have.
I ended up giving in and looking up some strategy tips - which definitely helped for the first half - but I don't quite have it down yet for the second. I was doing okay but then it broke all my buffs and augmented its attack and I just couldn't recover. Got totally slaughtered at that point. Honestly the most frustrating part of it all is just how gd long the whole process takes. I really really wish they had included a save or some sort of check point along the way. And I'm about 99% certain whatever post-boss scene they might have isn't gonna be worth it anymore at this point for all the dang time and struggle it's taken me lol. But, well, now beating it is just a matter of pride so I gotta.
Hopefully tomorrow will be more successful.
Yea i cant be bothered with giving the last boss a 2nd attempt so i just youtubed the ending. I didnt think it was worth it tbh.
 

Holundrian

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,134
Ye it's not worth it for the story. The fight itself I think is very enjoyable though trying to figure out how to beat it. Such a breath of fresh air after tons and tons of turn based combat systems that don't really ask that much out of you.
 

Parthenios

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
13,601
I've been playing this in smaller chunks and enjoying it much more. Definitely feels like it was designed to be played in vignettes and not binged, which may explain some of the repetition complaints.
 

ghostcrew

The Shrouded Ghost
Administrator
Oct 27, 2017
30,349
Late to the thread but I finally gave in and picked up the game and, goddamn, this is wonderful. I went with Ophelia as my starter (I love the idea of taking NPCs with you and summoning them in battle!) and I've absolutely loved her prologue. Giving me strong FFVI feels and I can't wait to get fully engrossed. Wooo!
 

DeepChord

Member
Jan 21, 2018
1,186
my biggest gripe with the game is the weapon models not changinge for different weapons within their type.
 

ElFly

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,734
started Alfyn's 4th chapter yesterday, left H'annit as the last one

since I had a main party of Thereon, Cyrus and Ophelia + whoever random guy I was taking along (mostly Tressa), I have three super high level guys, one normal levelled and three super weaklings

so I Imagine a thin, pathetic Olberic asking his super muscular friends Thereon, Cyrus and Ophelia if they can help him go take revenge for his king with him

And Cyrus just looks up from his book, lifts his super saiyan 3 style brows and smiles and says 'ok, little guy, I guess we owe you this'
 

K Samedi

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,989
Alfyn's chapter two surprised me. That was very entertaining. Loved how the story evolved and Alfyn is quite the bad ass when it comes to justice. I also collected the merchant job and gave that to primrose. That made her quite flexible with 3 weapons to select from and wind and dark as elementals. I found a pretty good NPC (old man) at gold shore that quickly finished the boss in Alfyns chapter 2 lol.
 

SliceSabre

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,556
I'm not crazy for save-scumming up to 5-7 times to steal certain 3-8% weapons am I?

WHY WON'T THIS OLD WOMAN LET ME STEAL HER OVERPOWER DAGGER!? WHY DOES THIS OLD LADY HAVE SUCH A POWERFUL DAGGER!?
 

donkey

Sumo Digital Dev
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
4,851
I had Cyrus as my main and finished his story last. I didn't realize you could switch him out until then... >.<

Another day, another fail at trying to beat the end game boss lol. Something about this boss, man, it just isn't clicking for me like all the others have.
I ended up giving in and looking up some strategy tips - which definitely helped for the first half - but I don't quite have it down yet for the second. I was doing okay but then it broke all my buffs and augmented its attack and I just couldn't recover. Got totally slaughtered at that point. Honestly the most frustrating part of it all is just how gd long the whole process takes. I really really wish they had included a save or some sort of check point along the way. And I'm about 99% certain whatever post-boss scene they might have isn't gonna be worth it anymore at this point for all the dang time and struggle it's taken me lol. But, well, now beating it is just a matter of pride so I gotta.
Hopefully tomorrow will be more successful.
What's your team comp? Beat it last night on my second attempt. Refreshing jams and the Saving Grace Cleric sub-skill were some of my best friends.
 

Clix

Banned
Just beat everyone's chapter one, and off I got to Tressa's chapter two now since she is my main.

So, a few questions. Because that rpg anxiety is starting to kick in hard. What is the best way to keep the party leveled now? Tressa is level 21 and level ranges for others are from 18 all the way down to 11. Yikes.

Would a good strategy be to now focus on a team of four, beat all the main storylines and then do the other four? Or will that be problematic?

As for my secondary jobs, I am torn on what to give Tressa and Cyrus. Was thinking Tressa for Thief or Apothecary? And Cyrus as Cleric or Merchant? Although with Tressa already having access to wind, it may redundant? Plus Cyrus looks like ass as a merchant.

And for Primrose, scholar or thief? She has great speed and evasion as is, but she also has good elemental attack. Therion I was thinking dancer or warrior.

So far, my team seems to be:

Tressa
Cyrus
H'aanit
Ophelia

or

Tressa
Cyrus
H'aanit
Therion

Any feedback would be great.
 

Cudpug

Member
Nov 9, 2017
3,551
Little bit confused. I just started playing and picked Cyrus. How exactly do I flip to a new character? I see them all on the map but some of them are on the other side of the world. Can I freely jump between people or am I now stuck with Cyrus and have to go through the other characters in the order of proximity to me on the map?
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,158
Little bit confused. I just started playing and picked Cyrus. How exactly do I flip to a new character? I see them all on the map but some of them are on the other side of the world. Can I freely jump between people or am I now stuck with Cyrus and have to go through the other characters in the order of proximity to me on the map?

You walk to the next town and talk to them to start their chapters.
 

Bonejack

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,654
You're stuck with Cyrus as your main hero until you finished his chapter 4. For the rest, the map shows where to recruit them, and you're free to do them in whatever order you like. Once you recruited all, you cann freely choose between them for the 3 remaining party members in the tavern in each town.
 

PogiJones

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,636
Therion is one of the least likable protagonists I've ever played. What a whiny, angsty douche. He's not cool aloof and sarcastic, he's just annoying aloof and sarcastic.
 

Firemind

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,529
He should have stayed in town and married the widow and raise the boy going after that dude is less interesting to me than the other paths, I mean if your King is dead you already failed beating up old ladies is an L upon Ls lol
Nah fam. Olberic has the most developed character arc of them all. Also the best theme.



Therion is one of the least likable protagonists I've ever played. What a whiny, angsty douche. He's not cool aloof and sarcastic, he's just annoying aloof and sarcastic.
Hear, hear!
 

ElFly

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,734
Or you go to the tavern and ask to hear a tale, if the story ain't triggering

Gotta have the relevant character in your active party
 

ccieag

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,339
Vail, CO
Starting Chapter 2's this morning on my flight home. I guess Primrose's is the easiest because it recommends level 21. All my characters are at L20 or so, and geared up. Alfyn is up at L25, which sucks for my OCD with trying to keep everyone the same level.

I am currently using the following combinations, but they are by no means final

My various mages. They are insanely OP at this point, especially if I use two of them in the same group. I think Ophelia is the best of the bunch
Primrose/Scholar
Ophelia/Scholar
Cyrus/Cleric

My evasion/speed characters - Haanit is amazing in this setup. Arrowstorm, SP thief, etc ..
Haanit/Thief
Therion/Hunter

Alfyn/Warrior (main)
Olberic/Hunter
Tressa/Dancer - she's actually probably my second most-used character because so versatile, and I am pretty rich at the start of Ch2 as a result
 
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Elven_Star

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,953
Have finished Ophelia and Tressa's stories so far. Not a fan, but those two were my least favorite characters to begin with. Will wrap up my current run after finishing Cyrus and Olferic.
Also, got steamrolled by the Starseer despite being like 10 levels above the dungeon's level ^^
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,962
Just beat everyone's chapter one, and off I got to Tressa's chapter two now since she is my main.

So, a few questions. Because that rpg anxiety is starting to kick in hard. What is the best way to keep the party leveled now? Tressa is level 21 and level ranges for others are from 18 all the way down to 11. Yikes.

Would a good strategy be to now focus on a team of four, beat all the main storylines and then do the other four? Or will that be problematic?

As for my secondary jobs, I am torn on what to give Tressa and Cyrus. Was thinking Tressa for Thief or Apothecary? And Cyrus as Cleric or Merchant? Although with Tressa already having access to wind, it may redundant? Plus Cyrus looks like ass as a merchant.

And for Primrose, scholar or thief? She has great speed and evasion as is, but she also has good elemental attack. Therion I was thinking dancer or warrior.

So far, my team seems to be:

Tressa
Cyrus
H'aanit
Ophelia

or

Tressa
Cyrus
H'aanit
Therion

Any feedback would be great.


I'll speak for myself here:

There is no bad team. Just subclass to get what you need.

Don't worry about keeping them all leveled. As long as you keep 2 characters at the recommended level, they can carry the other team and they will level up as you go. Plus equipment matters more than char level.

Also try all the jobs. The more you get the better because you'll earn more support skills. Once you hit either 500 or 1000 JP skills, go ahead and switch jobs so you can start earning support skills in other jobs. Basically, switch often when exploring and leveling, and go specific on boss fight s to fit the situations.

That's my observations anyway, someone can correct me.
 

Cloud-Hidden

Member
Oct 30, 2017
4,985
I just recently acquired Cyrus, and I feel like he's an absolute necessity in one's party. Revealing an enemy weakness at the start of every single freaking battle is an incredibly useful perk, and coming with stock elemental magic that does damage to all enemies by default... I mean what else could you really ask for, especially in the early game.
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,962
I just recently acquired Cyrus, and I feel like he's an absolute necessity in one's party. Revealing an enemy weakness at the start of every single freaking battle is an incredibly useful perk, and coming with stock elemental magic that does damage to all enemies by default... I mean what else could you really ask for, especially in the early game.

Yeah he's great, I ended up not rolling with him in Chapter 2s. You can learn all his skills fairly quicklyly, including analyze once you get his Job for others. Then, the only things you're missing is that ability to reveal one weakness at the start which is real nice.

Also great is Powering up Analyze to Lv.2 on the first turn and revealing two weaknesses at the start.

... But mostly I like discovering the weakness myself and only using analyze once I feel like I exhausted all my options.
 

Clix

Banned
Yeah he's great, I ended up not rolling with him in Chapter 2s. You can learn all his skills fairly quicklyly, including analyze once you get his Job for others. Then, the only things you're missing is that ability to reveal one weakness at the start which is real nice.

Also great is Powering up Analyze to Lv.2 on the first turn and revealing two weaknesses at the start.

Wait, that's a thing?! Mind blown. Shit I learn every day about this game.
 

ccieag

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,339
Vail, CO
Now that I know Analyze can be powered up to reveal multiple weaknesses, going to slap it on Ophelia and use her as my main mage. Thanks for the tip
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,962
Wait, that's a thing?! Mind blown. Shit I learn every day about this game.

Now that I know Analyze can be powered up to reveal multiple weaknesses, going to slap it on Ophelia and use her as my main mage. Thanks for the tip

Yeah, this is why I think its okay to take under leveled characters into places where they "don't belong". As long as you have 1-2 characters who can deal damage, you can just take along some low level guys and just have them analyze and chip away at Weaknesses while your 1-2 leveled characters do all the damage upon break. I have two guys 10 levels under when I started Ch.2, but they did just fine with this strategy.

You don't really need to sit there and keep everyone leveled at all times. This game is different than most JRPGs, your underleveled guys have plenty of things to do in battle so that they're not useless just because they can't deal damage.
 

Nav

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,904
Just beat everyone's chapter one, and off I got to Tressa's chapter two now since she is my main.

So, a few questions. Because that rpg anxiety is starting to kick in hard. What is the best way to keep the party leveled now? Tressa is level 21 and level ranges for others are from 18 all the way down to 11. Yikes.

Would a good strategy be to now focus on a team of four, beat all the main storylines and then do the other four? Or will that be problematic?

As for my secondary jobs, I am torn on what to give Tressa and Cyrus. Was thinking Tressa for Thief or Apothecary? And Cyrus as Cleric or Merchant? Although with Tressa already having access to wind, it may redundant? Plus Cyrus looks like ass as a merchant.

And for Primrose, scholar or thief? She has great speed and evasion as is, but she also has good elemental attack. Therion I was thinking dancer or warrior.

So far, my team seems to be:

Tressa
Cyrus
H'aanit
Ophelia

or

Tressa
Cyrus
H'aanit
Therion

Any feedback would be great.

You can safely use two separate squads of four if you wish. I did this thinking of it like a New Game+. The side effect was that I had a lot of higher level gear ready when I played through the stories of my second squad, making it pretty easy. It also kept the stories feeling fresher to me.

For jobs, pretty much anything works. You will accrue enough JP over time so feel free to experiment. You may want to dip into other jobs to acquire new passive abilities, even if you don't stick with those jobs.

For early progression, my main suggestion is to choose secondary jobs to maximize weapon types on your units. Extra weapons mean more stats and break opportunities overall. For instance, making Therion a Dancer doesn't gain him a new weapon type.
 

TheRightDeal

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,591
Also, ERA and GAF have complained for YEARS about how they have to put up with kids and whiny teenagers as JRPG leads and here comes swole 35 year old sir knight.

I was really surprised by how much I liked Olberic's story. He was one of my last pickups and while I thought his chapter one was kind of eh, 2,3, and 4 were some of the best in the game.
 

Batatina

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,263
Edinburgh, UK
I just finished all the original chapters, and now I'm struggling to keep motivation to continue. I just feel this void in the game - all the little stories feel too simple, and now I can go anywhere but the next chapters are too high level, and I haven't avoided a single fight up to this point. I think I'm getting tired of random encounters in games after all these years, and am unable to keep motivation to explore these places. The lack of a main story is really making it feel like a slog, which is a shame because I love how it looks and the battle gameplay is fun, it's all so polished. Really struggling with this one.
 

Etrian Oddity

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,429
In the first demo, Olberic's story seemed bland as hell to me and I actually was "meh" on the game until I cleared Primrose's.
 

Timeaisis

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,139
Austin, TX
I have no idea what to subclass Cyrus as. I did dancer just to get SP regain but now I have no idea what to do, I don't need him as Dancer because I got Prim.

Currently

Cyrus / ???
Primrose / Cleric
Tressa / Thief
H'aanit (or Olberic, haven't decided yet) / ???
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,962
I just finished all the original chapters, and now I'm struggling to keep motivation to continue. I just feel this void in the game - all the little stories feel too simple, and now I can go anywhere but the next chapters are too high level, and I haven't avoided a single fight up to this point. I think I'm getting tired of random encounters in games after all these years, and am unable to keep motivation to explore these places. The lack of a main story is really making it feel like a slog, which is a shame because I love how it looks and the battle gameplay is fun, it's all so polished. Really struggling with this one.

Yeah, just move on. The game stays the formula you found in Chapter 1s. If it's not for you then, it won't be for you later.

... If you do want to persistent: You don't NEED all your characters to be at the recommend level. Read a few posts above, you just need at least 1 or preferably 2 characters (probably the first two stories you did are those characters) to be at the recommended level, and if you're smart: they can carry the other two under leveled party members while they break weaknesses.

If you get the subclass job, the Scholar (I think, or maybe the medic guy) has a passive skill that lowers the encounter rate. I find it much preferable and I'll probably never take it off.
 

Bonejack

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,654
I have no idea what to subclass Cyrus as. I did dancer just to get SP regain but now I have no idea what to do, I don't need him as Dancer because I got Prim.

Currently

Cyrus / ???
Primrose / Cleric
Tressa / Thief
H'aanit (or Olberic, haven't decided yet) / ???

I made Cyrus a thief, debuffing when there's no elemental weakness, and some self-protection with the health an FP stealing skills, more Spd is also a nice thing (first turn elemental attack ftw.)

I've also seen some Cyrus' with Merchant, has him gain wind as elemental attack, self-full-heal with rest and so on.
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,962
I have no idea what to subclass Cyrus as. I did dancer just to get SP regain but now I have no idea what to do, I don't need him as Dancer because I got Prim.

Currently

Cyrus / ???
Primrose / Cleric
Tressa / Thief
H'aanit (or Olberic, haven't decided yet) / ???

Haha I stressed over who to bring and what to subclass them as too.

Truth is in this game: doesn't matter. Switch classes constantly (go specific and strategic on bosses) and switch party members... or don't. It doesn't matter. Keeping everyone leveled isn't super important in this game. Keep each character useful in battle by breaking enemies while you just have 1-2 characters who can dish out the damage when enemies are Broken.
 

Disclaimer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,459
Yeah, this is why I think its okay to take under leveled characters into places where they "don't belong". As long as you have 1-2 characters who can deal damage, you can just take along some low level guys and just have them analyze and chip away at Weaknesses while your 1-2 leveled characters do all the damage upon break. I have two guys 10 levels under when I started Ch.2, but they did just fine with this strategy.

You don't really need to sit there and keep everyone leveled at all times. This game is different than most JRPGs, your underleveled guys have plenty of things to do in battle so that they're not useless just because they can't deal damage.

You're absolutely right about low level characters being far from useless, but I would extend that further. They can actually deal almost as much damage as high level characters if they're in identical gear (not counting passive skill increases). Their only real liabilities are:
  • Lower HP, which does scale more steeply with level. Can be supplemented with +HP/evasion gear.
  • Temporarily fewer abilities/passives while they accrue JP.
You can take a group of level 20 characters kitted in endgame gear into their Chapter 4s and succeed easily because statistically gear eclipses level gains.
 

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User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
3,009
I basically just assigned Cyrus whatever subjob increased his HP the most, until I unlocked Sorcerer and then I gave him that. I had very little creativity with his build lol.

On the other hand I thoroughly enjoyed turning Tressa into a Warmaster. And I loved the combo between Aelfric's Auspices, Donate BP, and all of the Warmaster physical skills. Turned her into a physical death god BP mill.

BP generator builds ended up being useless for the final boss since it's faster to use items anyway though. So I had to re-build my team.
 

badboy78660

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,737
I'm not crazy for save-scumming up to 5-7 times to steal certain 3-8% weapons am I?

WHY WON'T THIS OLD WOMAN LET ME STEAL HER OVERPOWER DAGGER!? WHY DOES THIS OLD LADY HAVE SUCH A POWERFUL DAGGER!?

I was the same way initially--save-scumming to steal shit. But then eventually I just started paying for it via Tressa (made easier by using her to grind out monies). Just not worth the hassle.
 

Nav

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,904
I have no idea what to subclass Cyrus as. I did dancer just to get SP regain but now I have no idea what to do, I don't need him as Dancer because I got Prim.

Currently

Cyrus / ???
Primrose / Cleric
Tressa / Thief
H'aanit (or Olberic, haven't decided yet) / ???

Merchant has a nifty passive that halves SP costs. I really enjoyed that on Cyrus combined with the dancer SP regen passive.
 

badboy78660

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,737
I have no idea what to subclass Cyrus as. I did dancer just to get SP regain but now I have no idea what to do, I don't need him as Dancer because I got Prim.

Currently

Cyrus / ???
Primrose / Cleric
Tressa / Thief
H'aanit (or Olberic, haven't decided yet) / ???

Haven't gotten around to unlocking secondary jobs yet (let alone even unlocking all the characters; so tired after I come home from work that I don't have the energy/will to play :[ ), but how about this as a resource?

Via RPG Site:
Job Combination Suggestions for Cyrus
  • Scholar / Cleric: Equipping Scholar Cyrus with the Cleric is a job combination that will essentially turn him into a powerful archmage - or at least one that'll tide you over until you can unlock the Sorcerer Advanced Class. This opens Cyrus up to Holy/Light elemental Magic, plus healing.
  • Scholar / Dancer: Cyrus will get a boost from the Dancer class giving him higher speed, evasion and crucially elemental attack - and when enemies aren't susceptible to a specific weakness, he can instead double down on buffs or debuffs for either himself or other party members through the Dancer's abilities. The Dancer also has a great passive that restores SP, ideal for Cyrus.
  • Scholar / Merchant: A great class if you're all-in on Cyrus' magical abilities for one reason: the Merchant has the incredible Rest ability. It costs 0 SP and spends your turn to restore HP, SP and Heal Status Ailments - meaning you can always be fully loaded for a magical onslaught. The Merchant also grants some decent bonuses to Elemental Attack, Defense, HP, and SP.
 

BourbonJungle

Member
Nov 1, 2017
2,124
I'm not crazy for save-scumming up to 5-7 times to steal certain 3-8% weapons am I?

WHY WON'T THIS OLD WOMAN LET ME STEAL HER OVERPOWER DAGGER!? WHY DOES THIS OLD LADY HAVE SUCH A POWERFUL DAGGER!?

I don't think so! I've developed a habit whenever I reach a new town: pop the switch out of the dock, turn on my PS4 and put a documentary on TV (or maybe Unsolved Mysteries on Amazon Video). A half hour or so later and I've scrutinized and robbed every character in town, then the PS4 goes back into rest mode and Octopath is back on the big screen (also do this if I feel like grinding a bit to level up some characters or unlock job skills.)
 

Brakke

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,798
Yeah, this is why I think its okay to take under leveled characters into places where they "don't belong". As long as you have 1-2 characters who can deal damage, you can just take along some low level guys and just have them analyze and chip away at Weaknesses while your 1-2 leveled characters do all the damage upon break. I have two guys 10 levels under when I started Ch.2, but they did just fine with this strategy.

You don't really need to sit there and keep everyone leveled at all times. This game is different than most JRPGs, your underleveled guys have plenty of things to do in battle so that they're not useless just because they can't deal damage.

I mained Therion and so thought Tressa was worthless. Most of her skills are lame, her damage output sucks, and her path action didn't matter for me. So she was always underleveled. But then I subclassed her to have some buffs or debuffs and started relying on her for Donate BP and now she's super useful even 8+ levels under my main.

I have no idea what to subclass Cyrus as. I did dancer just to get SP regain but now I have no idea what to do, I don't need him as Dancer because I got Prim.

Currently

Cyrus / ???
Primrose / Cleric
Tressa / Thief
H'aanit (or Olberic, haven't decided yet) / ???

Alchemist is a fine sublclass for Olberic. Then he'll have skills for Sword-ALL, Spear-ALL, and Axe-ALL. The off-heals are pretty nice to have around, too.